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Sackings, resignations and retirements

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04 Aug 2016 13:44 #1249996 by Bordeaux Education
So three of the managers that Wales played have gone - two directly after losing to them.
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04 Aug 2016 15:29 #1250061 by Patrick Thistle

Ray de Galles wrote:

Your Usual Table wrote:
I just think it's a strange stage of his career to opt for international management.


As do I, it's just clearly not the permanent retirement from club football you initially stated it was.

Miguel Delaney made a similar point on Second Captains recently - at the Euros Conte was the only talented manager who you could say was coming into the prime of his career


Coleman, arguably.


Not really, Ray. Chris Coleman was available when the Wales job tragically came up because his club management career had stalled, including an abortive attempt to reinvent himself in Spain after John Toshack helped him get a job there.

Without the Wales gig nobody would be talking about him as being in the prime of his career. If anything he still fits into the 'novice' category because he is relatively young and yet hasn't really had a big club job and certainly not one he was successful at.
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04 Aug 2016 15:30 #1250062 by Patrick Thistle

Bordeaux Education wrote: So three of the managers that Wales played have gone - two directly after losing to them.


Is this a record? Should this be on the Wales firsts thread?
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04 Aug 2016 15:44 #1250073 by Bordeaux Education
I don't know.
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05 Aug 2016 14:42 #1250406 by Satchmo Distel
Italy could say the same - Belgium, Spain, Sweden
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06 Aug 2016 21:17 #1250752 by Bordeaux Education
Del Bosque announced beforehand though.
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07 Aug 2016 08:54 #1250814 by Satchmo Distel
Del Bosque announced on June 30, three days after Italy loss.
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07 Aug 2016 16:58 - 07 Aug 2016 17:00 #1250879 by Bordeaux Education

Lopetegui replaces Vicente del Bosque, 65, who announced last year that he would retire after Euro 2016. Del Bosque took charge of the Spain national side in 2008 and guided them to victory at both the 2010 World Cup and the 2012 European Championship.

He offered to resign after Spain's exit at the group stage of the 2014 World Cup, but was convinced to stay.

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08 Aug 2016 09:49 #1251059 by antoine polus

Ray de Galles wrote:

Borracho wrote:

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Borracho wrote: He will be out of sight, out of mind for pretty much the next two years though. Belgium are in with Estonia, Greece, Gibraltar, Cyprus and Bosnia. They will be expected to win at least eight of those games and not lose the others. He'll only come to anyone's notice if he fucks up.


Or if he gets them to perform at the World Cup.


Let's remember that we are talking about a manager who famously cannot organise a defence to save his life. There's a good reason why people are taken aback by this appointment.


You're having a different argument again. I'm making no case for Martinez's qualities - simply that it is possible to advance one's overall managerial career through international football.


You can even fuck up in international football and use it as a stepping stone to managing a biggish club... see Manager Mick.
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08 Aug 2016 13:00 #1251148 by Satchmo Distel
Del Bosque's announcement last year was not absolutely final:

"My retirement is close. If everything goes according to plan it [Euro 2016] will be the end," he said.

"I am a man of the Federation and I have to speak to them before taking a final decision."
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08 Aug 2016 13:35 #1251162 by Ray de Galles
Yeah, I certainly recall a lot of speculation about his future during the tournament and there decision to leave was presented as being finally made after their elimination.
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01 Sep 2016 15:08 #1258395 by JM Footzee
Covered elsewhere, but various retirements...

Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany)

Petr Cech (Czech Republic)

Robbie Keane and Shay Given (Republic of Ireland)

Keane and Schweinsteiger had final appearances in home friendlies last night.
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