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Football’s harsh alcohol laws unfairly criminalise fans

13 Oct 2016 13:55 - 13 Oct 2016 17:44 #1271861 by Coral
Bit uncertain on this as I am drinker when I go to cricket or rugby, and certainly in the ground. I enjoy that I can do this. And at football it is a shame that I can't be trusted to have a pint. And I can drink before and at the ground in bars so why not at the pitch?

But until Liverpool and Man utd fans can sit together in the same stand without a) there being violence and b) people saying how silly it was to let the fans sit together (see England Russia in the Euros) alcohol should not be allowed. If fans can't be trusted to watch a game of football together, then I don't trust them to have a drink in view of the pitch. In fact I would go backwards from this and say you can't go to a game if drunk and not drink at a game full stop. Rugby and cricket are two sports picked out where you can drink, but they also don't have segregation. Last week I sat at a Wasps game with Quinn’s fans, wasps fans, and the odd Tigers fan, with a beer.

I get that it should be on an individual basis but unfortunately football has to be treated differently. Lots of things are done to the group and not the individual in football crowds to prevent trouble.
Last Edit: 13 Oct 2016 17:44 by Coral.
14 Oct 2016 11:07 #1272139 by Liffrok
I'm happy to leave it as it is. Not much fun having to get up every 10 minutes because the person next to you needs another pint/a piss, which is what always seems to happen at the cricket. It's only a couple of hours, surely we can cope without a beer for that period of time?

And as for coaches - well, the same thing applies really. And as a Plymouth Argyle fan who regularly goes on very long coach trips, I'm generally glad that I can rely on my fellow passengers not being tanked up for the 16-hour return trip to Hartlepool or wherever.
14 Oct 2016 11:20 #1272145 by donedmundo
By definition, all football fans are criminals. Just buying a ticket for a match labels you as a criminal. None of this is about the effects alcohol has on fans it is just a punishment for being a football fan. Home game 3.00 k.o.; get to the pub about 11; few beers; off to the match at 2.00; another beer at the ground. Apparently that is all OK. Drink in sight of the pitch? Oh no. Shock horror. What disruption that would bring. Away game; met at 9.00; coach (no drink) to pub a little distance from ground; few beers; another beer in the ground. All OK. Drink in sight of the pitch? Oh no. Shock horror. Serves no useful purpose except to punish the fans for being fans. QED.
14 Oct 2016 11:23 - 14 Oct 2016 11:24 #1272148 by lucaswillis
The crowd becomes aggressive during the football match and they wish to celebrate the victory in a weird way. As they drink alcohol, it becomes uncontrollable. So, it is good to have a control over this in a football game environment. It would have impact on the marketing of a alcohol brand as well. All businessmen look for a loophole to stuff their product to get the business. I used to drink at the ground while watching rugby and cricket, but I can enjoy football without a glass of beer. I wholly agree with what has wrote in the article here because I know how aggressive a football match is. It is uncontrollable feelings of people.
Last Edit: 14 Oct 2016 11:24 by lucaswillis.
14 Oct 2016 15:34 #1272219 by jameswba
Liffrock speaks for me. You're there to watch the game.
It always mystifies me when I read blog pieces, often groundhopping ones, where the writer mentions missing important action through still being in the beer queue.

I know with rugby internationals, a lot of fans miss them altogether as they're comatose from all the drinking on the way to the venue. Or they get into the ground, but can't remember a thing about the game afterwards.

I sometimes wonder if the group of people that go to sport to enjoy the sport for its own sake are in an actual minority, compared to the ones who are 'only here for the beer' or to take selfies, get themselves on the big screen etc.
17 Oct 2016 08:24 #1272897 by Coral
I will confess to having watched England v Pacific Islands and not really having a clue what was going on. I was 10 pints in having watched cars get stuck in the tidal waters of the Thames at a pub. Before carrying on at Twickenham. It was similar to going to a gig in that sense. Usually I attend for the sake of sport and was annoyed with myself for getting so carried away. However that was just what the group I was in do. Similar often happens in cricket. I am glad that football forces groups to be less inclined to get obliterated.
10 Dec 2016 12:58 #1285149 by MiserableOldGit
As someone who has a season ticket in a normally very sober family stand, it always seems sad and pathetic when the very occasional drunk turns up, usually behaving quite inappropriately. If people need to be drunk to enjoy a game then fair enough, but make sure they're well segregated from those who actually prefer to watch events unfolding on the pitch. It always amazes me how some people are prepared to pay rip-off prices for appalling, bottled gnats piss inside the ground.
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12 Dec 2016 14:39 #1285449 by Stumpy Pepys
The German lower-leagues are probably nirvana if you want to stand on terraces and drink beer. Especially in Bavaria.

At my club, on a good afternoon, I can get to the bar and back in about two minutes. And the club has a biergarten out back.
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