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TOPIC: Euro all-time table

posted 23-06-2012 18:42
To fill 10 minutes of nothing to do, I compiled an all-time table of the European Championships since 1960, with points awarded for placing in the last eight to the final.

Winners - 6 points; finalists 4; semi-finalists 2; last eight 1 point.

I allowed the Czech Republic to keep Czechoslovakia's points, but Russia couldn't assume the USSR's points (most of them should go to Ukraine anyway), and neither Serbia nor Croatia get Yugoslavia's points.

1. Germany 33 points
2. Spain 23
3. USSR 22
4. France 20
5. Netherlands 17
6. Czech Rep/CSSR 16 (Czech Rep. 6/CSSR 10)
6. Italy 16
8. Denmark 12
8. Yugoslavia 12
10. Portugal 11
11. England 9
12. Belgium 8
13. Greece 7
14. Hungary 5
15. Romania 4
15. Sweden 4
17. Turkey 3
18. Croatia 2
18. Ireland 2
18. Russia 2
21. Austria 1
21. Bulgaria 1
21. Luxembourg 1
21. Scotland 1
21. Serbia 1
21. Wales 1

Since you're asking, Luxembourg knocked out the Netherlands 1-1/2-1 to reach the QF in 1964.

Anyway, Portugal will move into 8th after reaching this year's semi-final; Greece will go level with Belgium in 12th.

The Czech Rep will draw level with Holland in 5th, unless Italy reaches the semi, in which case Italy go 5th, Holland go 6th and Czech stay 6th. England could climb from 11th to 8th if they win the competition.

And if France reach the final they'll go to 2nd, jointly with Spain, or on their own if they win.

By Holland getting knocked out in the group stage, the longest current string of consecutive top 8 finishes -- six in total -- was broken, one short of the record, held by Germany who finished in the top 8 every Euro from 1972-96. Holland had last failed to reach the last eight in 1984.
Last Edit: 23-06-2012 19:19:25 by G-Man.
posted 23-06-2012 19:39
Impressive from Portugal as I assume they had no points prior to 1984 then no more points until 1996.

I'm guessing that if you start this exercise at 1996 Portugal and Spain might be top two.

Why is Ireland on two points?
Last Edit: 23-06-2012 19:42:48 by satchmo76.
posted 23-06-2012 21:50
Ireland 1964 and 1988.

Portugal picked up a point in 1960.

Calculated from 1996-2008 only:

1. Germany 10
2. France 9
3. Portugal 8
3. Spain 8
5. Czech Rep 6
5. Greece 6
5. Netherlands 6
8. Italy 5
9. England 3
9. Turkey 3

What's interesting is how close things were in 1992, the last time the USSR (as CIS) qualified:

1. Germany 23
2. USSR 22
3. Spain 15
4. Yugoslavia 12
5. Denmark 11
5. France 11
5. Italy 11
5. Netherlands 11
9. Czechoslovakia 10
10. Belgium 8
posted 24-06-2012 17:54
Looking at that list of all-time quarter-finalists, notwithstanding that the USSR and Yugoslavia no longer exist, I reckon it's a fair bet that all the others with the exception of Luxembourg and Wales will be at the 24-team finals in 2016.
posted 24-06-2012 18:08
I think Hungary, Austria and Bulgaria would be doubtful, and there are some teams from past World Cups that might make it (Slovenia, Slovakia, Switzerland, maybe Israel?). Also, we usually get some new qualifiers whenever a tournament expands, which might indicate Montenegro, Estonia, etc.

Biggest football nation to never make the quarters: Poland?
posted 24-06-2012 19:46
G.Man wrote:
To fill 10 minutes of nothing to do, I compiled an all-time table of the European Championships since 1960, with points awarded for placing in the last eight to the final.

Winners - 6 points; finalists 4; semi-finalists 2; last eight 1 point.

I allowed the Czech Republic to keep Czechoslovakia's points, but Russia couldn't assume the USSR's points (most of them should go to Ukraine anyway), and neither Serbia nor Croatia get Yugoslavia's points.


Harsh.

The 1960 Soviet squad contained no Ukrainian players at all. Of the 11 players who played in their 1960 victory, eight were from Russia (seven of which were from Moscow) and Chokheli, Metreveli and Meskhi were Georgian. Of the eight other players that played in that campaign, seven were Russian (another six from Moscow), while Mamedov was Azeri. Yuiy Voynov is the player from the squad most associated with the Ukraine, but that's because he spent most of his playing career in Kyiv, and all of his managerial career in Ukraine.

In the 1964 Runners-Up squad, Mudrik was Ukrainian, but the other 11 players in the finals were all Russian. Of the seven other players who featured in the qualifiers, Metreveli and Dubynskiy were Ukraininan and Urushadze was Georgian, but they only played once each.

The 1968 semi-finalists were a similar story. Banishevskiy was Azeri, Istomin and Kaplichny were Ukrainian, Pshenichnikov was Uzbekistani, but the other seven were Russian. In the qualifers, Khurtsilava, Kavasashvili and Tskhovrebov were Georgian and Sabo was Hungarian (but a natuarlised Ukrainian), but the other six were Russian.

Yes, the 1988 runners up were very, very influenced by Lobanovskiy and full of Ukrainians and Dynamo Kyiv players, but the 1960s side was very Russian. (Not checked 1972 yet)
posted 24-06-2012 20:56
Hmm, interesting. One could split the USSR points between Russia and Ukraine...
posted 01-07-2012 21:52
The updated table.Italy moved up one place, Netherlands dropped one. Portugal moved up two places, which means Denmark and Yugoslavia dropped one. Greece moved up one to go level with Belgium.

1. Germany 35 points
2. Spain 29
3. USSR 22
4. France 21
5. Italy 20
6. Netherlands 17
6. Czech Rep/CSSR 17 (Czech Rep. 7/CSSR 10)
8. Portugal 13
9. Denmark 12
9. Yugoslavia 12
11. England 10
12. Belgium 8
12. Greece 8
14. Hungary 5
15. Romania 4
15. Sweden 4
17. Turkey 3
18. Croatia 2
18. Ireland 2
18. Russia 2
21. Austria 1
21. Bulgaria 1
21. Luxembourg 1
21. Scotland 1
21. Serbia 1
21. Wales 1
posted 01-07-2012 22:29
Several of those teams are probably never gonna get higher: USSR, Yugoslavia, Belgium, Hungary, Ireland, Austria, Luxembourg, Wales.

Portugal are the impressive climbers IMHO: you could see them displacing Holland and the Czechs and starting to chase France, who I think are headed for a wilderness period.
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