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TOPIC: Germany v Portugal

posted 09-06-2012 21:33
What a chance. Great work by Oliveira and nice save by Neuer's bollocks.
posted 09-06-2012 21:35
Acting job by Muller, made it look convincing in real time.
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posted 09-06-2012 21:37
The PA just warned the crowd about something, in English. I didn't hear what it was.
posted 09-06-2012 21:37
Janik wrote:
Alderman Barszcz wrote:
Germany are going to tear Portugal a new hole now.


They still have the same front three. They don't look like tearing anyone apart at the moment.
As someone who didn't see the first half, I feel like asking whether, a deflected cross apart, have they actually created a chance? It's good up until the last twenty-five, then it slows right up and the players seem to run into each other...


Yeah, sorry. Just being overdramatic in the heat of the moment. I've got to avoid the Bild-Zeitung tomorrow.
posted 09-06-2012 21:37
Beltrano Carpinteiro wrote:
Why did Ronaldo dummy the ball on a three man counter attack with no team mate within thirty yards of him?


He just can`t help it, dumbest player on the field by a wide margin.
posted 09-06-2012 21:38
Just the dickhead contingent of Germany's fans in Ukraine then?
posted 09-06-2012 21:39
Congrats Germany,will get better.
That Ronaldo hes a proper one isnt he.
posted 09-06-2012 21:39
jaysus, he hit poor basti like a train.

He just can`t help it, dumbest player on the field by a wide margin

How can you say that when pepe plays for portugal?
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posted 09-06-2012 21:42
What were the off-pitch shenanigans with Boateng that were alluded to?
posted 09-06-2012 21:42
Reed John wrote:
The PA just warned the crowd about something, in English. I didn't hear what it was.

I think the Germans lit a flare in the stand.
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posted 09-06-2012 21:42
Ok,thanks.
Surprised that was announced in English.
posted 09-06-2012 21:46
linusz wrote:
Beltrano Carpinteiro wrote:
Why did Ronaldo dummy the ball on a three man counter attack with no team mate within thirty yards of him?


He just can`t help it, dumbest player on the field by a wide margin.


I could see what he tried. Whilst there was no teammate that close, Lahm was right down the centre of the pitch, leaving Germany total absent of cover in their right-back zone. If he had bought the dummy, the ball would have ran into that channel, which a red shirt was running into (couldn't see who), and that player would have been clean through. I thought it was a rather clever attempt myself, but Lahm was just as good as he didn't buy the dummy and broke it up.

The second half was a performance from the old Germany (i.e. pre-98 good old style Germany), rather than the new one. Solid, strong, organised, never really looking like losing, but not something to liven up the blood.
Hopefully they get better. Maybe when faced with a more expansive team than Portgual were today, as dalliance suggested a few pages back.
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posted 09-06-2012 21:54
This interview with Hodgson on now... he looks like he's wearing a pantomime costume.
posted 09-06-2012 22:04
I doubt they will face more expansive teams though. They have a reputation now, they are joint favourites and teams are going to play against them the way they did against Spain in 2010.

If there's one thing to admire about Germany is the way that heads don't go down when things aren't going well. No-one hides, everyone continues to look for the ball and they continue just trying to do their thing, playing their system. Their relentlessness, their mental strength and their good physical condition might be enough this time, but boy do they have some ordinary players.

If I was the German coach I would be annoyed with Podolski. Repeatedly he attacked the same central areas as Gomez, only to see balls fly over him into the wide left areas where he was meant to be stationed. Poor play.

Why don't Portugal just play Ronaldo up front and have done with it. Their experiments with conventional strikers just don't work, Helder Postiga was an utterly inert presence as ever tonight. Nelson Oliveira looked interesting when he came on, but it's pretty soon for him to start games. Is the lack of a truly effective striker going to be Portugal's downfall forever? Have they had a decent one at all since Fernando Gomes?

I thought Pepe was excellent tonight, Coentrao too. I thought Portugal were decent value for a draw myself.
posted 09-06-2012 22:24
Reed John wrote:
What were the off-pitch shenanigans with Boateng that were alluded to?


Germany coach Joachim Loew has said defender Jerome Boateng 'owes' the team as the Bayern Munich star battles to make the starting line-up to face Portugal in their opening Euro 2012 match on Saturday.

Boateng hit the headlines in Germany at the start of the week after he was photographed in a late-night tryst with glamour model Gina-Lisa Lohfink, 25, in a Berlin hotel shortly before the German team met to fly to Poland on Monday.
Germany face Portugal in Lviv, Ukraine, and Boateng is vying with Leverkusen's Lars Bender for the right-back berth so the 23-year-old must prove himself having left Loew fuming.

"Jerome Boateng is fully focused because after causing these headlines he is a little bit in my debt to me, because frankly I didn't like what I read," Loew said at Thursday's press conference.

"I spoke to him about this and while he was doing all this during his time off, I didn't like what he did.

"He is ready to give 100 percent to prove his critics wrong and he has to prove himself over the next few weeks.

"On the right, the first option would be Jerome Boateng, but I have seen in training that Lars Bender could do well in that position and I'll wait until tomorrow (Friday) to make a decision."

Germany are bidding to win a fourth European title and Loew has brought in some rules for his players during the tournament which culminates in the final in Kiev on July 1.

They have been told they may not post on Twitter or Facebook anything regarding tactics, team line-ups or anything from within the squad, while they will be allowed visits from wives and families only after the games.
Alcohol is not banned, but any drinking must be in moderation.
Loew has said captain Philipp Lahm will start at left-back against Portugal, even though he plays the majority of his club football on the right for Bayern Munich.
posted 09-06-2012 22:25
Janik wrote:
linusz wrote:
Beltrano Carpinteiro wrote:
Why did Ronaldo dummy the ball on a three man counter attack with no team mate within thirty yards of him?


He just can`t help it, dumbest player on the field by a wide margin.


I could see what he tried. Whilst there was no teammate that close, Lahm was right down the centre of the pitch, leaving Germany total absent of cover in their right-back zone. If he had bought the dummy, the ball would have ran into that channel, which a red shirt was running into (couldn't see who), and that player would have been clean through. I thought it was a rather clever attempt myself, but Lahm was just as good as he didn't buy the dummy and broke it up.



My view was that Lahm was one of three German players who likely would have got to the ball after the dummy before one of Ronaldo's team mates.
posted 09-06-2012 22:27
dalliance wrote:

Why don't Portugal just play Ronaldo up front and have done with it. Their experiments with conventional strikers just don't work.

I thought Pepe was excellent tonight, Coentrao too. I thought Portugal were decent value for a draw myself.


Agree on both points, was wondering the whole game how Portugal might have got on if Ronaldo was the central "striker".
posted 09-06-2012 22:30
Beltrano Carpinteiro wrote:
My view was that Lahm was one of three German players who likely would have got to the ball after the dummy before one of Ronaldo's team mates.


If it had worked in getting the ball cleanly past Lahm, the defenders would have been wrong-footed. The ball was going reasonably quickly, it would have got a long way away from them... and as Lahm cut it out we can never know, so are obviously going to have to agree to differ.
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posted 09-06-2012 22:40
It seems to me Portugal, as a team, use a lot of those type of dummies and feints. It's clever and much of the time works, but a well organised team like Germany are able cover the open man often as not.

I thought Portugal were decent value for a draw myself.

Yes, me too. Really each team had one clear cut chance with the keeper beaten, Pepe's hit the inside of the upright and line, Gomez's didn't. I reckon Coentrao and Hummels were tied for MoM.
posted 09-06-2012 22:43
AdC, that summary leaves out Varela's golden chance at the death.
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