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Straight Outta Compton IN/ENG Test series

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19 Sep 2012 14:57 - 19 Sep 2012 14:58 #711717 by diggedy derek

For my money there hasn't been nearly enough cricket chat on here recently.

So, for England, Strauss has gone, which I suspect well be the end of an era, whatever his batting average in the last couple of years. England's batting line-up with the loss of Pieterson too is a lot shakier, and it wasn't exactly impervious before that.

The dropping of Ravi Bopara was sadly inevitable, poor guy, but James Taylor getting axed is unfathomable for me. He didn't have time to do much wrong, and now he's gone, and the only explanation I can see is that Bairstow has gone above him in the pecking order and they want to explore playing Prior at six. Which I can't see happening, but perhaps that's what they've told him. Nick Compton should definitely get a call-up, with the numbers he's posting; Joe Root I haven't the foggiest, and Eoin Morgan, although he's a genius one-day batsman, should be trying to get some practice against the red ball.

I hope to god Trott doesn't open. I'm sure he could do it, but why mess with a winning formula? Trott batting at three has changed the whole dynamic and, dare I say, psychology of the England test side, because losing an early wicket is now no cause for panic.

Here's the line-up I'd like to see play in the first test,

Compton
Cook (c)
Trott
Bell
Bairstow
Eoin Morgan, I guess
Prior (vc)
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn

On raging turners swap Morgan for Patel and batt Prior at six. Personally, I'd have had Taylor in for Morgan. And Pieterson –Pieterson's loss is massive, he's been in the form of his life for the last year.

And Strauss? His record was incredible, and whatever part Flower played, he has to be considered one of the greats. The slow and steady, methodical, analytical style of tactics was rather dull, and he wasn't a genius in the field. But he was obviously a brilliant man manager. It's a shame he's seen as some bumbling grafter with the bat now; he was a fantastic cutter of the ball. I think back to the 2009 Ashes, were quite honestly he was out only frontline batsman who scared the Australians, with Pieterson's injury problems. He carried the team in that series. Best of luck for the future.

Last Edit: 19 Sep 2012 14:58 by diggedy derek.
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19 Sep 2012 18:11 #711797 by Wyatt Earp

Get scored off
Or call the tour off
Your pussy-ass bowling's just for me to hit fours off

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19 Sep 2012 19:17 #711837 by The Bean Counter

Very surprised to see Morgan back in there. He hasn't really done much in the county season to justify a recall.
Compton to open? He bats in the middle for somerset, doesn't he? I'd assume they've picked root to be the opening batsman. Compton will probably go in at 5 or 6, at least until he finds out that batting on Indian pitches against Indian spinners is a bit tougher than Taunton.
If Cook and Trott are opening together, you'd almost hope they lose an early wicket. Those two are quite capable of seeing India take the 2nd new ball at 150/0.

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19 Sep 2012 19:19 #711841 by Etienne

Compton's been batting at 3 for Somerset, think he could open. India's probably a rare place where opening is easier than coming in at 5 or 6 when you might have 4 men around the bat.

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19 Sep 2012 19:28 #711845 by The Bean Counter

That's a good point actually. Where are the tests being played, anyone know? There's a couple of the Indian pitches recently that have had a habit of having a little pace and bounce. Think Mohali is one.

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19 Sep 2012 22:10 #711919 by Central Rain

Thread title reminded me of these gentlemen.



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19 Sep 2012 22:15 #711921 by Central Rain
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19 Sep 2012 23:52 #711947 by diggedy derek

I'm tired of the motherf_ckin blockin
The new ball is due, I'm lookin at the clock, and
Checking the light meter, and for what? Maybe it's because I'm packing a square cut
I kick dot balls -- or maybe I just swot balls
On a stupid-assed twiddly when He's trying to get fiddly
With an arm ball, or even a carram ball,
Cause the slips always got somethin stupid to say
The gee with the one-day behavior
Yeah, I'm a slogger, but still I got flavour
Without a bat and a box, what do ya got? A sucker in whites waitin to get clocked by me, or another seamer
And with a  it don't matter if it's a full ball or a beamer

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30 Oct 2012 12:21 #726221 by nmrfox

Judging from today's game, looks like Compton will be opening in the tests with KP in at 4 and Prior up the order to 6.

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01 Nov 2012 11:08 - 01 Nov 2012 11:09 #727065 by The Purple Cow

When the glorious revolution comes and I take my rightful place as chairman of selectors, this will be my team.

Root
Cook
Trott
K.P.
Bell
Patel
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn

(Tempted to bring in Bopara for Trott and drop K.P. down one, but perhaps not just yet.)

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While I'm thinking about it, the best English kids of every age group from U12 onwards are summoned to Loughborough for three days of assessment every year. Three kids from Dylan's county team went.

All the parents I have spoken to about it have told me the same thing. More than half of all the kids there in any age group up to U15 are of Asian decent. In particular kids of Pakistani origin are in abundance.

Now that's interesting only in that it was only a couple of years ago that commentators were bemoaning the fact that there was little or no contact between the Asian community and the cricketing establishment. Obviously somebody somewhere has got their act together and pretty quickly.

Last Edit: 01 Nov 2012 11:09 by The Purple Cow.
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01 Nov 2012 15:45 #727201 by nmrfox

Whilst Patel does give you a bowling option, I'd put Taylor in at 6 and tell KP to practice his off-spin a bit more.

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05 Nov 2012 12:51 #728658 by ursus arctos

Mr. Compton finally puts on a decent innings (64 not out off 162 balls against Mumbai A) and is seen to take the lead in his gladiatorial combat with Root for the opening spot with Cook.

England are being awfully cagey about Broad's condition.

India have dropped Raina and brought back both Yuvraj and Harbhajan.

They only Singh at home.

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05 Nov 2012 12:53 #728659 by ad hoc

Somewhat off topic, but I was most distressed to learn a couple of days ago that my (now completed) trip to Brisbane failed to coincide with the first test against South Africa at the Gabba by a week.

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05 Nov 2012 13:08 #728668 by ursus arctos

A true bummer, I'm sure we all agree.

AUS have picked Rob Quiney (a left handed Victorian batsman whose existence I was previously unaware of) to replace Shane Watson (who injured his calf again, but is expected to be fit for the second Test).

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07 Nov 2012 16:55 #730067 by JM Footzee

The Purple Cow wrote:

All the parents I have spoken to about it have told me the same thing. More than half of all the kids there in any age group up to U15 are of Asian decent. In particular kids of Pakistani origin are in abundance.
Interesting you should say that, today I came across a press release about a competition for spinners outside the county game. The two winners won a place at a spin camp in India.

A fair number of Asian names in the list of finalists , a far greater proportion than the number you see in the Cricketer's club cricket pages.

Re: Quiney, interesting that they've selected him. He won Australia's Domestic Player of the Year last summer, so I thought he'd come over on their A tour of England. Seemed like the perfect candidate, having a good domestic season but little experience of foreign conditions. But he was left at home so I assumed he was off their radar. Apparently not.

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15 Nov 2012 08:33 #732467 by ad hoc

Swann has become the leading offspinner in England test history. However this feat is probably more troubling than it is positive given that India are 231-2 and it's not even tea yet. On a pitch which is predicted to start deteriorating by day 3. With Swann having taken the 2 wickets. With him being England's only spinner, and India having two.

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15 Nov 2012 10:23 #732494 by The Purple Cow

The pitch has expected to fall apart on day three but it has started deteriorating already, Swann's last wicket taking ball went through the surface. Got a feeling this is not going to be a five-day test.

The decision to leave Panesar out looked daft before the toss, now it's starting to look suicidal.

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15 Nov 2012 11:31 #732507 by E10 Rifle

Swann was magnificent today - especially given what he's been through in the past week, having to fly back to see his ill baby daughter then return. Anderson bowled well too; no one else looked at all threatening.

Pujara to get a double-hundred and England to spend the following three days in a grim, and probably futile, struggle to avoid an innings defeat.

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15 Nov 2012 12:01 #732515 by Sits

I can't believe KP is back. I would rather lose without him.

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15 Nov 2012 15:55 #732589 by ursus arctos

The US is playing Canada in what they like to claim is the "oldest international sporting contest in the world" (based on the fixture first having been played in 1844, though its history is far from continuous or coherent).

As if a two day two innings match wasn't shambolic enough for an international, one of the umpires is the father of the USA captain.

Tragics wanting to watch may be able to do so at this CBC link (it works in the US, not sure about UK).

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