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So, Bond, then. James Bond.
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TOPIC: So, Bond, then. James Bond.

posted 14-11-2012 23:06
Reed John wrote:
Thanks for that explanation of the topography.

I need to visit Scotland ASAP. I really like the look of the countryside. And the beverages.


If you do visit Scotland be sure to go to the Isle of Skye:


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posted 16-11-2012 10:17
Saw it last night.
How disappointing. It started appallingly and limped into ok at the appearance of Bardem, before fizzling out into pointless.
Not as bad as Quantum (but little is) but shit none-the-less.
posted 16-11-2012 11:52
***There be spoilers below******************

There was so much to like about it, especially the nods and winks to the audience. The reintroduction of Connery’s Austin Martin – machine guns and all – was fantastic, in a goofy sort of way. The wayang fight against the advertising boards was quite brilliant. Ditto the roof-top bike chase. Daniel Craig is excellent, and looks like he can handle himself. I didn’t notice his engorged loins, mind (my eyes are still seared by the Match of the Day/Allan Shearer incident). Q and M were equally good. And Javier was brilliantly unhinged.

And yet…I thought none of it amounted to much. It wasn’t shit, just weirdly average. Some of the action scenes - the car chase specifically – had a Starsky & Hutch amateurism to them, too. The UK setting also gave it a parochial vibe, like he’d parkoured into an episode of The Bill. That said, it’s not the filmmaker's fault that I live in the UK; I imagine the astronauts on the International Space-station probably felt the same about Moonraker. Oh, and I’m no zoologist, but when did komono dragons become Godzilla-like man-eaters? That was shengus, that.
Last Edit: 16-11-2012 15:53:53 by Slightly Brown.
posted 16-11-2012 16:03
Slightly Brown wrote:
***There be spoilers below******************

There was so much to like about it, especially the nods and winks to the audience. The reintroduction of Connery’s Austin Martin – machine guns and all – was fantastic, in a goofy sort of way. The wayang fight against the advertising boards was quite brilliant. Ditto the roof-top bike chase. Daniel Craig is excellent, and looks like he can handle himself. I didn’t notice his engorged loins, mind (my eyes are still seared by the Match of the Day/Allan Shearer incident). Q and M were equally good. And Javier was brilliantly unhinged.

And yet…I thought none of it amounted to much. It wasn’t shit, just weirdly average. Some of the action scenes - the car chase specifically – had a Starsky & Hutch amateurism to them, too. The UK setting also gave it a parochial vibe, like he’d parkoured into an episode of The Bill. That said, it’s not the filmmaker's fault that I live in the UK; I imagine the astronauts on the International Space-station probably felt the same about Moonraker. Oh, and I’m no zoologist, but when did komono dragons become Godzilla-like man-eaters? That was shengus, that.


I knew product placement had infiltrated even the Bond franchise, but that's mental.
posted 16-11-2012 21:21
Ha, yeah, they used to be called Banyan Beasties, but Barbara Broccoli wouldn't have gone for that.
posted 16-11-2012 22:06
Saw it yesterday, and just remembered I cannot remember Quantum of Solace at all. Come to think of it, I'm not even sure now that I saw it.
Anyway, I thought it was alright - there were some memorable scenes, Craig is a good Bond I think, and the Scottish landscape was lovely, but it was all a bit inconsequential wasn't it? Not to mention the gaping holes in the plot.
My date who I saw it with called it 'a little boy's film'. But she still wanted to watch it with me, so all good!
posted 16-11-2012 22:08
Also, just read those telegraph letters, which reminded me (and I'm sure this will cheer up everyone upthread): the film's Istanbul geography is far more dubious than its London geography.
posted 17-11-2012 01:44
zbigniew wrote:
Saw it yesterday, and just remembered I cannot remember Quantum of Solace at all. Come to think of it, I'm not even sure now that I saw it.
Anyway, I thought it was alright - there were some memorable scenes, Craig is a good Bond I think, and the Scottish landscape was lovely, but it was all a bit inconsequential wasn't it? Not to mention the gaping holes in the plot.
My date who I saw it with called it 'a little boy's film'. But she still wanted to watch it with me, so all good!


You accompanied a date to a Bond film? Madness, man. Comparatively you don’t stand a chance. Afterwards, did you take her to see a Michelin-starred chef doing comedy while he hinted at, then followed through on, generous, vigorous and sustained love-making? Possibly to the smell of baking? First dates should involve either A) an instructional "how to" afternoon hosted by a drunken, failed and weepy-eared circus clown; B) a "how to" afternoon workshop with the light-technician/sound-architect who used to represent a weepy-eared circus clown; or C) an unrepresented weepy-eared circus clown. Not an in-the-dark HD marathon featuring some handsome, skilled, patriotic, oenophilic, killing-machine. "ah, when she closes her eyes, she closes them for meeeeeee."
Last Edit: 17-11-2012 02:02:36 by Slightly Brown.
posted 17-11-2012 15:47
Slightly Brown wrote:


You accompanied a date to a Bond film?


Better than letting her go on her own!
posted 17-11-2012 16:14
10^7 guests wrote:
And strangely bland office blocks.


With not a single "Universal Exports" corporate logo to be seen.

Friends live around there and during a few "front page incidents" have had no mobile coverage. Itll be even worse when the US embassy opens along the road which is why their moving house.
Last Edit: 17-11-2012 16:15:29 by Sundeporino.
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posted 22-11-2012 12:43
I was nonplussed by Skyfall.

When Bond tells M that he's been "enjoying death" it rang hollow. We'd seen his preceding activities and he looked to not be enjoying himself at all. For me, it would have been much more satisfying if he had been reintroduced playing football and bantering with some new found mates on a Brazilian beach rather than trying to outdrink a scorpion (or whatever that was). Then hearing about the bombing in a copacabana sports bar surrounded by rejoicing team-mates who loved the fact he'd just scored the winning goal over their fierce rivals, and realising that he had to leave this new life behind to go back to save Blighty again.

I read a blogpost about the Severine character as well and how the film downplayed the evils of sex-trafficking. It particularly objected to the way Bond uses her as well. I can see their point on that one.

So, yeah.
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posted 09-12-2012 16:32
Finally saw this. It was...fine. It didn't seem to really have the scope of a Bond film. It was like a made-for-tv version of one.

**Spoilers Ahead**

So, when Silva had M in his sights in the courtroom, why not just pop her there?

When Bond has Silva in his sights on the island, why not just pop him there?

When Bond has Silva in his sights in the tunnel, why not just pop him there?

Agonizing false ending after false ending. A dearth of exotic locales. (Save for the inexplicable frat-boy-beach-bar-sabbatical scene). And the fairly stock-in-trade preparations at Skyfall manor for the final showdown with Silva. Ugh.

As well, too many knowing 'nods to the franchise' in one film. Sly they weren't.

Good motorbike chase scene, though. But you knew I'd like that.
Just kind of 'meh' all around.
posted 09-12-2012 19:47
I have yet to see this movie, but My mam liked it. My mam is seventy and hasn't really shown much interest in bond movies in the past, but rather enjoyed this one.

I really don't know what to make of this bit of news.
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posted 09-12-2012 19:48
That's very strange -- both of my (70+) parents liked it as well.
posted 10-12-2012 12:09
Hmm, my dad (68) and uncle (72) both liked it a lot but my mum (64) wasn't so sure.

She did like that one with Judi Dench and Bill Nighy at the hotel in India so I'm inclined to accept her assessment that Skyfall wasn't so much bad as just not her sort of thing.
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