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What Do I Get? (That made me really happy.)

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29 Dec 2012 00:10 - 29 Dec 2012 00:11 #745414 by Wyatt Earp

The Buzzcocks were brilliant, weren't they? Have we had a thread on them? If you needed proof that "punk" wasn't really any kind of coherent Thing at all, you could point to the fact that it encompassed both the hard-faced sloganeering and back-to-basics rock of The Clash and the tuneful, lovelorn, poppy Mancunians.

Though perhaps they only counted as "punk" for Spiral Scratch? (Which was also brilliant, in a slightly different way.)

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29 Dec 2012 00:30 #745416 by Cal Alamein

Well summarized. I love them. First listen was their first album in 1979. My best friend at the time was excited as he could play Autonomy on his guitar. I've kept up with them and their last few releases are not too bad. While I did get to see Pete Shelley solo in 1982 (?), I had to wait until 2006 to finally see the band live - they did not let down. I'll even throw out a quick, very quick top five:

1. Love You More (an easy #1)
2. What Do You Know
3. Everybody's Happy Nowadays
4. Harmony In My Head
5. Sell You Everything

I tend to like all the Steve Diggle songs, but Flag of Convenience and his solo stuff pretty much sucked.

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29 Dec 2012 00:32 - 29 Dec 2012 00:37 #745417 by Sundeporino

Had tickets to see em supported by Joy Division but alcohol got in the way. Finally saw em at The Leadmill in Sheffield in the early 90s and my ears have never been the same.
Couldnt get out of a previous "do" to see the recent various Buzzcocks line ups gig at Brixton. Hopefully theyll do it again if Devotos still on the dole. (Obviously wish he finds employment but you knoworrimean).

The reformed Buzzcocks albums are pale shadows Im afraid.

1. Nostalgia.
2. Ever Fallen In Love.
3. Sixteen Again.
4. I Dont Mind
5. Sixteen.
6. Homosapien.

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29 Dec 2012 01:35 #745419 by Calvert

They say never meet (or work) with your heroes.
This has been proven mostly wrong, but sadly true for them.

1 Fast Cars
2 Friends of mine
3 Get on our own
4 Moving away from the pulsebeat
5 Sitting round at home
6 I don't mind
7 Autonomy
8 Mad mad Judy
9 Something's gone wrong again
10 Just lust

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29 Dec 2012 04:20 - 29 Dec 2012 05:58 #745423 by alyxandr

iTunes > Music > Genre: punk.uk > Buzzcocks > Rating

(I used to worry that technology was able to excuse me from thinking)

Boredom
Nostalgia
Ever Fallen in Love
Fast Cars
What Do I Get?
I Don't Mind

Also quite fond of the Beating Hearts (1978) live one ("the chances are that you'll overestimet your strenth and they'll land on people's heads which isn't very nice")

(Edit: hang on, if Sundeporino gets "Homosapien", then i get "Flesh")

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29 Dec 2012 05:56 #745426 by Sits

I've had a woefully small exposure to The Buzzcocks and I'm not really sure how it happened, they were right in "my" era. My very first off-the-radio C60 (made by holding the cassette recorder and radio next to each other) featured I Don't Mind sandwiched in between Blondie's Presence Dear and The Day My Baby Gave Me a Surprise by Devo.

It's particularly odd I never "knew" them very well since they, along with The Undertones, were such great influences on one of my favourite "recent" bands Ash.

If I wanted a Buzzcocks catch-up is there a "best" Best Of (I imagine there are a number available) or are there a couple of studio albums which would give me a better "early" perspective? I have a little new iTunes money.

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29 Dec 2012 06:04 #745428 by alyxandr

Spiral Scratch + Singles Going Steady would be the obvious answer, but i'll defer to those who Were There.

(And has there been iTunes inflation? A sort of Weimar thing? What is "new iTunes money" worth?)

(Pirate Bay > Pirate Search > "Ash")

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29 Dec 2012 06:24 #745430 by Sits

alyxandr wrote:

Spiral Scratch + Singles Going Steady would be the obvious answer, but i'll defer to those who Were There.
Thanks alyxandr.
What is "new iTunes money" worth?
Less than real money, judging by their prices.
(Pirate Bay > Pirate Search > "Ash")
I don't understand this, or the one on your earlier post - what do they mean?

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29 Dec 2012 06:49 #745432 by alyxandr

Sits With Remote wrote:

(Pirate Bay > Pirate Search > "Ash")
I don't understand this, or the one on your earlier post - what do they mean?
Sorry about that, as Primary Tech Support Contact (Holiday Period) for my Familial Business Unit i've been speaking mostly in UI gestures the last week or so -- the first sequence was how i figured out what my favorite Buzzcocks were, and the above is what i need to do at some future point prompted by your mentioning Buzzcocks, Undertones, and Ash in the same post. HTH, HAND.

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29 Dec 2012 07:48 #745434 by Sits

alyxandr wrote:

HTH, HAND

It did, you too.

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29 Dec 2012 10:14 #745456 by Geoffrey de Ste. Croix

The Buzzcocks really do rule the music world forever don't they?

1. Lipstick
2. Noise Annoys
3. ESP
4. Nothing Left
5. I Don't Mind

Single's Going Steady is the finest compilation album in popular music.Over 20 songs and not a duff track on it.

I've never been able to get to the bottom of the whole what came first - Lipstick or Magazine's Shot By Both Sides?. I've read that Devoto nicked that majestic guitar riff off Shelley for Shot By Both Sides but I've also read to the contrary that Devoto took it with him when he left and Shelley used it regardless. Anyone shed any light?

And if anyone's interested here's the original Pete Shelley track that he later modified to make the famous 1980's Channel 4 Tour de France theme tune.

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29 Dec 2012 11:13 - 29 Dec 2012 11:14 #745473 by MsD

SBBS/Lipstick's riff is written by Shelley.

I should probably take the fifth as someone will take exception to my "connections".

What I will say - a bit hit and miss live, not sure if this is down to the venues or not. Often the tunes seem to get lost in the fog.

Favourites for me are Love You More and Boredom.

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29 Dec 2012 11:16 #745475 by Sits

That's two tips for Singles Going Steady now and it's $17.99 iTunes Dollars, so thanks again.

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29 Dec 2012 11:28 #745476 by MsD

Make that three, I like it too.

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29 Dec 2012 11:47 #745480 by Wyatt Earp

Spiral Scratch and Singles Going Steady is exactly what I've got on download, and I was sort of "there".

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29 Dec 2012 12:28 #745483 by Sits

Thanks all, going to get those now. I have hijacked this thread long enough.

As you were.

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29 Dec 2012 17:03 #745527 by Cal Alamein

Nothing wrong w/ piling on and more confirmation. My fave comp album as well.

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29 Dec 2012 17:52 #745537 by Bordeaux Education

Interesting that this comes up at the same time as the Beatles thread. In a similar fashion to them, I just don't really get Buzzcocks. I don't hate them or even really dislike them. Indeed, there are a couple of songs that I really like - "What Do I Get", "Noise Annoys". Some songs, like "Ever Fallen In Love", I have heard so many times that I can't be objective about them any more - again, similar to some of the Beatles'. I think that, like the Clash, they were a band that, I felt, were very over-rated by my peers while I loved the Pistols, The Damned, SLF much much more.

I should probably dig out my copy of "Singles Going Steady" again and have a re-listen. Their rather more melodic approach may appeal to me more now. Actually, in thinking about it, we have been compared to them in a review so maybe I will enjoy them more than I did before

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29 Dec 2012 18:34 #745549 by Cal Alamein

You all in Europe have the fortune or misfortune for the most popular UK '77 bands to be in the league of current classic rock.

For me (and anyone living outside of NYC, L.A, or Bay Area) at the time, Buzzcocks, Damned, Pistols, SLF, Clash, Jam, et. al were total underground rock and roll and will always be that way. There was a core of around 15-20 of us who mail ordered the latest singles or were fortunate to find expensive imports of the latest punk stuff. We'd make tapes to share the expenses. Trouser Press and UK music weeklies were invaluable, and it was fun to take a stab in the dark and buy that 45 or album that had an intriguing name or cover art - The Adventures of the Hersham Boys comes to mind. There was no discography websites - Wax Trax and Small Wonder catalogs were the best way to discover what all was out there.

Buzzcocks were weird at first because of Shelley's unique singing, but also the sheer positive pop sounds that were in contrast to about everything else I was listening to.

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29 Dec 2012 19:22 #745564 by Bordeaux Education

It was a bit like that for us in Porthcawl, to be honest. There was one guy that literally collected every single or album going from Styx laser-etched disc to Chic albums. Obviously, he had all the punk stuff especially all the clear coloured vinyl UK Subs singles and whatnot. We used to just borrow stuff off him.

Don't forget that, for all we had Buzzcocks, Clash etc, punks over here were very envious of the proximity you had to Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Misfits etc

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