29 Dec 2012 00:10 - 29 Dec 2012 00:11#745414by Wyatt Earp
The Buzzcocks were brilliant, weren't they? Have we had a thread on them? If you needed proof that "punk" wasn't really any kind of coherent Thing at all, you could point to the fact that it encompassed both the hard-faced sloganeering and back-to-basics rock of The Clash and the tuneful, lovelorn, poppy Mancunians.
Though perhaps they only counted as "punk" for Spiral Scratch? (Which was also brilliant, in a slightly different way.)
Well summarized. I love them. First listen was their first album in 1979. My best friend at the time was excited as he could play Autonomy on his guitar. I've kept up with them and their last few releases are not too bad. While I did get to see Pete Shelley solo in 1982 (?), I had to wait until 2006 to finally see the band live - they did not let down. I'll even throw out a quick, very quick top five:
1. Love You More (an easy #1)
2. What Do You Know
3. Everybody's Happy Nowadays
4. Harmony In My Head
5. Sell You Everything
I tend to like all the Steve Diggle songs, but Flag of Convenience and his solo stuff pretty much sucked.
29 Dec 2012 00:32 - 29 Dec 2012 00:37#745417by Sundeporino
Had tickets to see em supported by Joy Division but alcohol got in the way. Finally saw em at The Leadmill in Sheffield in the early 90s and my ears have never been the same.
Couldnt get out of a previous "do" to see the recent various Buzzcocks line ups gig at Brixton. Hopefully theyll do it again if Devotos still on the dole. (Obviously wish he finds employment but you knoworrimean).
The reformed Buzzcocks albums are pale shadows Im afraid.
2. Ever Fallen In Love.
3. Sixteen Again.
4. I Dont Mind
I've had a woefully small exposure to The Buzzcocks and I'm not really sure how it happened, they were right in "my" era. My very first off-the-radio C60 (made by holding the cassette recorder and radio next to each other) featured I Don't Mind sandwiched in between Blondie's Presence Dear and The Day My Baby Gave Me a Surprise by Devo.
It's particularly odd I never "knew" them very well since they, along with The Undertones, were such great influences on one of my favourite "recent" bands Ash.
If I wanted a Buzzcocks catch-up is there a "best" Best Of (I imagine there are a number available) or are there a couple of studio albums which would give me a better "early" perspective? I have a little new iTunes money.
I don't understand this, or the one on your earlier post - what do they mean?
Sorry about that, as Primary Tech Support Contact (Holiday Period) for my Familial Business Unit i've been speaking mostly in UI gestures the last week or so -- the first sequence was how i figured out what my favorite Buzzcocks were, and the above is what i need to do at some future point prompted by your mentioning Buzzcocks, Undertones, and Ash in the same post. HTH, HAND.
The Buzzcocks really do rule the music world forever don't they?
2. Noise Annoys
4. Nothing Left
5. I Don't Mind
Single's Going Steady is the finest compilation album in popular music.Over 20 songs and not a duff track on it.
I've never been able to get to the bottom of the whole what came first - Lipstick or Magazine's Shot By Both Sides?. I've read that Devoto nicked that majestic guitar riff off Shelley for Shot By Both Sides but I've also read to the contrary that Devoto took it with him when he left and Shelley used it regardless. Anyone shed any light?
And if anyone's interested here's the original Pete Shelley track that he later modified to make the famous 1980's Channel 4
Tour de France theme tune.
Interesting that this comes up at the same time as the Beatles thread. In a similar fashion to them, I just don't really get Buzzcocks. I don't hate them or even really dislike them. Indeed, there are a couple of songs that I really like - "What Do I Get", "Noise Annoys". Some songs, like "Ever Fallen In Love", I have heard so many times that I can't be objective about them any more - again, similar to some of the Beatles'. I think that, like the Clash, they were a band that, I felt, were very over-rated by my peers while I loved the Pistols, The Damned, SLF much much more.
I should probably dig out my copy of "Singles Going Steady" again and have a re-listen. Their rather more melodic approach may appeal to me more now. Actually, in thinking about it, we have been compared to them in a review so maybe I will enjoy them more than I did before
You all in Europe have the fortune or misfortune for the most popular UK '77 bands to be in the league of current classic rock.
For me (and anyone living outside of NYC, L.A, or Bay Area) at the time, Buzzcocks, Damned, Pistols, SLF, Clash, Jam, et. al were total underground rock and roll and will always be that way. There was a core of around 15-20 of us who mail ordered the latest singles or were fortunate to find expensive imports of the latest punk stuff. We'd make tapes to share the expenses. Trouser Press and UK music weeklies were invaluable, and it was fun to take a stab in the dark and buy that 45 or album that had an intriguing name or cover art - The Adventures of the Hersham Boys comes to mind. There was no discography websites - Wax Trax and Small Wonder catalogs were the best way to discover what all was out there.
Buzzcocks were weird at first because of Shelley's unique singing, but also the sheer positive pop sounds that were in contrast to about everything else I was listening to.
It was a bit like that for us in Porthcawl, to be honest. There was one guy that literally collected every single or album going from Styx laser-etched disc to Chic albums. Obviously, he had all the punk stuff especially all the clear coloured vinyl UK Subs singles and whatnot. We used to just borrow stuff off him.
Don't forget that, for all we had Buzzcocks, Clash etc, punks over here were very envious of the proximity you had to Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Misfits etc