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Really dumb CD burning question

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29 Nov 2012 00:56 #736571 by Amor de Cosmos
Is there any problem if you use DVD-R disks instead of CD-R for recording audio tracks?

I can't see as there would be but I need someone to confirm it.
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29 Nov 2012 01:28 #736575 by Incandenza
Is this something that you want to play in a CD player later? If so, that won't work. If you just want to have the files to transfer to a computer, then it should be okay.
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29 Nov 2012 02:13 #736585 by Amor de Cosmos
Ah. I'm glad I asked, yes that is how they would be played (I assume.)

Thanks.
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29 Nov 2012 09:18 #736606 by Stumpy Pepys
You can, of course, play audio burned to a DVD-R disc in a DVD player. But, as Inca says, not in a normal CD player.

(You can also play audio CDs in a DVD player.)
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29 Nov 2012 12:42 - 30 Nov 2012 11:30 #736680 by evilC
As a slight (but still relevant) aside to this, I bought a new mini-hifi for my bedroom, the other day - this one . It's rather good. I got it because I wanted a DAB radio which also played MP3s directly from a USB stick. (With this reduced price it was cheaper than the portable DAB radio with USB playback that I was previously considering.) However - of relevance to this thread is the fact that it can also play back MP3s and WMAs burned to both CD and DVD.

As it is, I won't be using that functionality, since it has the USB port in the front and I'll just be whacking a 32gb stick into that, loaded with thousands of MP3s. Still - I thought it was worth mentioning that this kind of hifi / portable DAB radio option does exist. (FWIW, this was the portable option I'd been considering, but since it was more expensive than the hifi, I went for the latter and also bought a cheapo portable DAB radio too - still for a combined price less than the portable thing I'd originally looked at.)
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29 Nov 2012 20:22 #736938 by linus
Looks like a great buy Clive, I'm looking for something similar for my mom's place.

Does DAB radio require listening with a bottle of pils?
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29 Nov 2012 21:13 - 29 Nov 2012 21:15 #736958 by evilC

linus wrote: Looks like a great buy Clive, I'm looking for something similar for my mom's place.

Does DAB radio require listening with a bottle of pils?


The thing about DAB (digital) radio - and I'd read this before I ever heard it - is that, in order to get the sound at a steady, easily-broadcastable data rate - the audio is necessarily compressed (in a sonic way, not a data way) during the recording/broadcasting process. Over here, allegedly many regular listeners to Terry Wogan's old radio show wrote/mailed in to the BBC, saying that they were no longer hearing the full lushness (my phraseology) of Wogan's brogue. What they were experiencing was the same compression techniques that make all the adverts you'll see on telly sound ike everyone is shouting all the time, even when they're not. This kind of thing is most noticeable when you've been watching a film, where the audio will have been less compressed as part of the recording/mastering process. Just FWIW, all the broadcasts I've seen (on the digital displays) so far are listed as having a rate of 64 kbps. If you saw an MP3 download at that quality, you'd possibly refuse to download it, as it would sound pretty shit. I'm not sure if DAB radio has some kind of decompression algorithm built into it which actually helps it compensate for this, but... just don't expect the earth, sonically-speaking!

More on audio compression on this page and data/audio compression in the second half of this one.
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03 Dec 2012 13:22 #737908 by Ginger Yellow
Out of interest evilC, why did you get a hifi that does CDs/USBs of MP3s, and not one that would just stream them from your network? It seems like an unnecessary extra layer of hassle.
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04 Dec 2012 21:29 - 04 Dec 2012 21:34 #738390 by evilC
From my whatnow?
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06 Dec 2012 17:55 #738976 by Squarewheelbike

Stumpy Pepys wrote: You can, of course, play audio burned to a DVD-R disc in a DVD player. But, as Inca says, not in a normal CD player.


I wish most of the cabaret acts I've dealt with in theatres and on ships would realise that! They usually give it the old, "well it works on my computer"! They then complain that it doesn't sound right, yes we know, it's an MP3 track put through a professional sound system for a 1,000 seat theatre!
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