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Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine

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03 Feb 2013 12:07 #758339 by Gawpus
Not had a chance to listen yet, but various (all?) tracks are available on YouTube:
youtube.com/user/TheOfficialMBV
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03 Feb 2013 12:51 #758343 by antoine polus
You can download it in better than CD quality from the website. Typical Kevin Shields, haha.

Listening to it now, it's, erm, fucking brilliant.
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03 Feb 2013 15:00 #758366 by antoine polus
I'm thinking that Wonder 2 has to be a reference to Bowie's Little Wonder.
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03 Feb 2013 22:50 #758615 by Brandenburger Toro
Good spot.

I'm trying to work with it on, and smiling too hard. Also, my brain appears to be leaking out of my ears and around the floor.
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04 Feb 2013 06:51 #758712 by Geoffrey de Ste. Croix
Downloaded it and now listened to it three times. Excellent stuff, the standout track being in another way but it is “Loveless Volume II”. If anything, the new album only emphasizes just how epochal Loveless was and still is.

In 1991, Loveless (and the accompanying Tremolo ep) was a paradigm shift in the use of the electric guitar. 22 years later with MBV’s follow up there’s been no progression making Loveless now the end point in what can be done creatively with the electric guitar. If la Shields can't progress the sound, I don't think anyone can.

And at least Loveless didn’t have instant reaction/live blogging online hipster Guardian journalists wanking all over it.
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04 Feb 2013 06:59 #758713 by alyxandr
Yeah, thank fuck none of us are instant reaction/live-blogging hipsters. Which only emphasizes how epochal the paradigm shift in online wanking has been.
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04 Feb 2013 07:22 #758714 by Reed John
It would be simpler if this were on iTunes.
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04 Feb 2013 09:15 #758723 by A Different Bob

alyxandr wrote: Yeah, thank fuck none of us are instant reaction/live-blogging hipsters. Which only emphasizes how epochal the paradigm shift in online wanking has been.


Indeed. I'm wanking over this post.
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04 Feb 2013 13:32 #758859 by Borracho
Tapers off noticeably in the second half, doesn't it?
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04 Feb 2013 13:32 #758860 by Borracho
The album, that is, not the wanking post.
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04 Feb 2013 21:06 #759043 by Lucia Lanigan
Haha, we seem to have opposite ears these days. I think it picks up in the second half; the first half is a little too sweet and Beach Boys-y for my liking.
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04 Feb 2013 21:12 #759047 by Reed John
I can't download it. When I try to buy it from the site, it says "your cart is empty" even though it shouldn't be. Fuck.
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05 Feb 2013 02:08 #759093 by Borracho

Lucia Lanigan wrote: Haha, we seem to have opposite ears these days.


Ha, a nicely charitable way of phrasing it! I've only heard the thing once thus far. Maybe my opinion will change with more listens.
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07 Feb 2013 14:44 #760029 by steveeeeeeeee
Got it yesterday and have listened to it about 4 times now.

My overall feeling is that it's a comforting album. You've waited 22 years, pondered what a follow up would be likely regularly and you're basically given what you'd hoped for. It's very good, but as an album, a group of songs, it doesn't work in the same way Loveless does. There's no "To Here Knows When" to blow your mind out two thirds through I guess.

My favourite track so far is "Only Tomorrow", basically because it sounds like a more mature version of MBV, it nods towards conventional song-writing and production whilst still being weird as f*ck. The most frustrating track is "Nothing Is", which could be incredible due to the subtle changes in looping drums, changing volume and intensity and occasional shift in chord of the repetitive guitar. But the problem is, it's not really a song, there are no vocals and it doesn't go anywhere - it just sounds like an experimental interlude before "Wonder 2", but it could've been the "To Here Knows When" of m b v.

Finally "Wonder 2" would've blown my mind if it were released in the second half of the 1990s, but it just sounds a bit of a tired idea, sort of like Shields is trying to prove where he was going over a decade ago, but just couldn't get there.

But overall, I'm enjoying it, any new MBV material is million times better than new material by any other band.
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07 Feb 2013 14:52 #760037 by steveeeeeeeee
Another thing, the vocal patterns on "Wonder 2" really remind me of "If it's in you" by Syd Barret and as a song, it would be really interesting to hear it stripped down. The drums just destroy it, imo. It also starts off with an Amen break that's definitely ripped from a Digital Hardcore track, maybe Alec Empire's "Suicide" or "Turntable Terrorist" by Sonic Sunjunkies. Which sort of backs up my mid-nineties theory of the song.
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10 Mar 2013 00:58 #772569 by oscar mike
I'm just in from seeing them at Barrowland and they may have fried my brain (in a good way). Fucking amazing. This may not be forwarding the debate in any way but it was a borderline spiritual experience and I hate that fucking phrase. It was awesome, carry on.
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10 Mar 2013 09:03 #772600 by Geoffrey de Ste. Croix
MBV at the Barras. I am seething with jealousy.

Out of interest, how long was the 'holocaust section' in You Made Me Realise? When I saw them 20 odd years ago on the roller coaster tour it lasted about 15 minutes and was akin to the opening salvos of the Battle of Stalingrad.

They made The Jesus and Mary Chain sound like Simon and Garfunkel that night.
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10 Mar 2013 13:13 #772667 by oscar mike
When I saw them there in 2008 it was 18mins (yes, I timed it). Last night it was about half that, still a serious aural assault though. My ears aren't ringing anywhere near as much as I thought they would but then, I didn't stand next to the speakers this time.

They made The Jesus and Mary Chain sound like Simon and Garfunkel that night.


Ha, on the bus home The Sound of Silence popped up on the ipod, made for an interesting contrast.
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10 Mar 2013 15:08 #772701 by Lucia Lanigan
Oof, bitterly excited about seeing them on Tuesday night. The 2008 gig was a revelation, there's a whole extra dimension in their live sound.
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10 Mar 2013 16:03 #772721 by Furtho
Not to go off on a tangent here, but can excitement actually be bitter?
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