WSC Logo

rss

Sign up for the WSC Weekly Howl

A small portion of despair and enlightenment delivered to your inbox every Friday

 

First name
Surname
Email

newissue medrec 317

gplus50

chairman 170x140



Welcome, Guest
Smoking poll - the 2012 election happy ending
(1 viewing) (1) Guest

TOPIC: Smoking poll - the 2012 election happy ending

posted 19-08-2012 15:35

Seriously? I'm British, and only moved away when I was 26, and I don't know anyone who wouldn't consider it deeply odd to take their passport on a night out.


I think he meant a British person in the USA thing to do.
  • Amor de Cosmos
  • A mean motor scooter and a bad go-getter
  • Posts: 10197
posted 19-08-2012 16:53
I've always thought of carrying photo ID as a very rest-of-the-world thing to do*, and of getting ID'd in bars at my age now as an exclusively USA thing to happen (I'm 28 now but frequently get told I look a lot younger, and even then it's never an issue with regards getting served).

I was asked for ID in a Phoenix bar when I was 62. I figure, staff were just told to ask a certain number of patrons randomly. Some pick oldies because they assume they'll be flattered. I've wondered since what would have happened if I'd said no.
posted 19-08-2012 17:36
More likely (I would guess) is that they were told to ask everyone no exceptions. I've run across that numerous times, with the apologies and the "I know this is silly but on pain of being fired".
posted 19-08-2012 17:37
Both New York baseball clubs card everyone.

Having left my wallet at home, I once had a 23 year old colleague buy me a beer (with my money, of course).
posted 19-08-2012 17:45
You sly dog.
posted 19-08-2012 19:49
This guy is on the House Science and Technology Committee.

Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri running against Sen. Claire McCaskill (D), justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses against getting pregnant.

“First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”
Last Edit: 19-08-2012 19:50:56 by ursus arctos.
posted 19-08-2012 21:54
Ginger Yellow wrote:

Seriously? I'm British, and only moved away when I was 26, and I don't know anyone who wouldn't consider it deeply odd to take their passport on a night out.


I think he meant a British person in the USA thing to do.


No, here.

Sam, carding has become a lot more prominent in the UK in recent years as the government tries to clamp down on underage drinking. I worked in a bar at the O2 Arena when I was in uni, and I usually saw a couple passports a night.

Not everybody drives, and those people have no other ID. What else are they going to bring?
posted 20-08-2012 18:00
Fair enough. Carding was pretty rare when I was just over-age. I certainly never bothered carrying around ID at uni.

Back on the voter suppression topic, TPM is hosting guy who runs the Election Law Blog for a series of posts this week.
posted 20-08-2012 18:24
Carding was common in Texas when I used to visit my brother.
posted 20-08-2012 18:25
ursus arctos wrote:
This guy is on the House Science and Technology Committee.

Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri running against Sen. Claire McCaskill (D), justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses against getting pregnant.

“First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”


We've got prominent homespun experts on rape too:

liberalconspiracy.org/2012/08/20/george-...elight-the-pentagon/

The Respect MP George Galloway has attacked attempts to extradite Julian Assange to Sweden, arguing that: “even if the allegations made by these two women were 100 per cent true. . . they don’t constitute rape.”

posted 20-08-2012 22:36
I'd seen some tweets about that Askin thing, but hadn't grasped the full unthinking crassness of it until just now.

I'd only popped in to quote a Rob Delaney tweet from two months ago
"Ha ha ha! Terrific!" - Mitt Romney, every time Jar Jar Binks appears on screen
that tickled me.
posted 20-08-2012 22:47
Can anyone explain the skinny dipping in Galilee scandal to me?

There are lots of scandalous things about going on a freebie from Congress to pal around with terrorists in Israel, of course.

But why, exactly, is it scandalous to go swimming in a lake in the buff? I am genuinely baffled. Is the water considered holy? Do locals consider it sufficiently sacred that they don't let their unclothed-parts touch it?

Surely not. So why is this any sort of news at all? I'm all in favour of almost anything that has a go at Republicans, but I just can't see what the deal here is?

Help!
posted 20-08-2012 22:50
It's a bit lacking in decorum, I suppose.
posted 20-08-2012 22:56
The real story is that the only reason it came out is that the FBI is investigating one of the participants (a New York Republican who kept his clothes on) for soliciting/accepting serious money in illegal campaign contributions from Israeli sources.

The skinny dipping this is a side show that can be used by Democrats looking for further evidence of Republican nuttiness, by repressed Republicans who faint at any mention of naked bodies, and by websites who have learned that any combination of sex and politics (no matter how tenuous) means clicks.

There's huge GOP pressure on Akin to retire from the race, btw, but he's hanging in there at the moment. He needs to drop by 5pm tomorrow in order to be able to do so without getting a court order.
Last Edit: 20-08-2012 23:09:09 by ursus arctos.
posted 20-08-2012 23:06
everywhere in SC carded in 1988/89

i was 20

got a fake, a few american friends had id's with their photo having used older brothers documents at the driving licence place, which worked like a charm but could have involved prison sentences if caught (v unlikely)

one of them pretty prominent now and certainly wouldnt like to be reminded of that
posted 20-08-2012 23:15
sw2boropetrovsk wrote:
I'd seen some tweets about that Askin thing, but hadn't grasped the full unthinking crassness of it until just now.

I'd only popped in to quote a Rob Delaney tweet from two months ago
"Ha ha ha! Terrific!" - Mitt Romney, every time Jar Jar Binks appears on screen
that tickled me.


Yes, Delaney's Romney tweets are great (my favorite is “My other car is a dancing horse.” - bumper sticker on Mitt Romney’s limo

His tweets about Romney are sometimes more popular than Romney's own tweets, so often he will have the most "influential" Romney tweet of the day. On The Media had an interview with Delaney about this:
www.onthemedia.org/2012/aug/10/twitter-and-political-humor/
posted 22-08-2012 22:15
Republican convention to hold a "We Built It" night as an attack on Obama's speech in which he said that businesses were not built in a vacuum with no government support.

62% of the total cost of the arena the convention is being held at was paid for by government funds.
posted 23-08-2012 17:12
/waits for the ursus collective to explain what is in here:

Today, we are publishing more than 950 pages of internal audits, financial statements, and private investor letters for 21 cryptically named entities in which Romney had invested—at minimum—more than $10 million as of 2011 (that number is based on the low end of ranges he has disclosed—the true number is almost certainly significantly higher). Almost all of them are affiliated with Bain Capital, the secretive private equity firm Romney co-founded in 1984 and ran until his departure in 1999 (or 2002, depending on whom you ask). Many of them are offshore funds based in the Cayman Islands. Together, they reveal the mind-numbing, maze-like, and deeply opaque complexity with which Romney has handled his wealth, the exotic tax-avoidance schemes available only to the preposterously wealthy that benefit him, the unlikely (for a right-wing religious Mormon) places that his money has ended up, and the deeply hypocritical distance between his own criticisms of Obama's fiscal approach and his money managers' embrace of those same policies. They also show that some of the investments that Romney has always described as part of his retirement package at Bain weren't made until years after he left the company.
posted 23-08-2012 17:14
Short version: Romney has paid smart lawyers lots of money to allow him to save several times that amount in taxes.
Last Edit: 23-08-2012 17:15:50 by ursus arctos.
posted 23-08-2012 19:01
Also, that the uber-capitalist enterprise that he led invested in things that they thought would make money, some of which engage in activities which offend the GOP base.

A long, but very good, piece by Ta-Nehisi Coates on Obama and race.

The irony of President Barack Obama is best captured in his comments on the death of Trayvon Martin, and the ensuing fray. Obama has pitched his presidency as a monument to moderation. He peppers his speeches with nods to ideas originally held by conservatives. He routinely cites Ronald Reagan. He effusively praises the enduring wisdom of the American people, and believes that the height of insight lies in the town square. Despite his sloganeering for change and progress, Obama is a conservative revolutionary, and nowhere is his conservative character revealed more than in the very sphere where he holds singular gravity—race.
Time to create page: 0.32 seconds

 

© When Saturday Comes Limited 2013 | Contact | Privacy & cookies | Sitemap | Managed hosting by Latitude