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posted 02-07-2012 10:27
Just read this news now. Horrible news and condolences to the family. So long, David.
posted 02-07-2012 10:31
Oh no, this is the trouble with only popping on occasionally and not reading things properly. I'm so desperately sad about this, and that I never took the chance to say a few words to the Vole. I knew one day we'd lose someone in this community, and that it would feel utterly awful when it happened. Condolences to the family, and hugs to all who are grieving.
posted 02-07-2012 10:47
Been away for a few days and only just been able to catch up with this terribly saddening news. My sincere condolences to all of the Vole's family and friends, and thank you so much for sharing that typically eloquent parting message.
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posted 02-07-2012 12:22
Sean of the Szczed wrote:
What sad news this is. My deepest condolences to his loved ones. It's cruel that such a bright shining light can be extinguished so suddenly and so young.
I only knew TEV from his posts on here, and only became aware of what else he had written and contributed to the wider world through whatever others had mentioned on here, so I have to presume he was not one to blow his own trumpet. He should have though.
I cannot recall an offensive, angry or ill-informed post ever made by TEV, his insight and interaction was knowledgeable, interesting, funny or completely off the fucking wall. They were never posts to be skimmed past. I wish I had known the person behind them. This forum has lost one of the sparks that ignites it.
RIP David, The Exploding Vole, I for one will miss you on here.


This sums it up perfectly for me.

David seemed genuinely pleased that so many people thought so well of him. And so he should have been.

He also seemed rather surprised by it. He shouldn’t have been.
posted 02-07-2012 12:51
The Exploding Polnik wrote:

Live every day, people. Live every fucking day.



These words have been brought up a lot over the last couple of days and quite rightly so. Many years back after surviving a period of some adversity I declared (mainly to myself) that I would "live for the moment" and suchlike.

But of course time goes by: stupid, unimportant things like bills, work and so on intrude.

Having enriched an evening by catching up again on this thread, which is at once both terrible and uplifting, all I can do is try again to be true to David's words.
posted 02-07-2012 13:19
This is very sad news. Condolences to his family.
posted 02-07-2012 13:35
Sam Kelly wrote:
TEV once started a thread in Books, asking for people to recommend books on the history of soccer in the USA. I joined in about a page or so in (if I remember correctly) expressing some surprise that no-one had hitherto mentioned David Wangerin's excellent Soccer In A Football World.
Someone (I don't think it was TEV), presumably when they'd finished pissing themselves laughing, then explained to me that TEV was David Wangerin.
So I think it's fair to say that no, he wasn't much one for blowing his own trumpet.

I remember that and it made me laugh at the time. This is extremely sad news, but I sincerely hope that his family are comforted somewhat by the thought that he was valued and loved here.
posted 02-07-2012 13:42
I haven't got anything particularly profound to add, so I'll simply extend my sympathies to his friends and loved ones who must surely be comforted, if only slightly at this desperate time, in the knowledge of how well-regarded David was.

When he first told us of his illness I thought about sending him a PM to suggest that if he was planning to visit London we should have a big OTF get-together, not as some sort of a maudlin goodbye but as a chance for people to shake his hand, tell him how much they thought of him and that they were pulling for him.

I never got the chance.

Perhaps we should meet and hoist a few in his name at some point in the near future.
posted 02-07-2012 14:20
Dreadful, dreadful news and my deepest condolences to TEV's family and friends.
posted 02-07-2012 14:47
Oh, this is so sad. As I really haven't been doing much on OTF these last few years (apart from jumping in and out of the Scottish Football discussion) I hadn't seen David telling us of his diagnosis.

It is so sad to lose him and my thoughts are with all his family.
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posted 02-07-2012 15:28
I don't know what to add, except my condolences.

As other people have said, it seems odd to be so affected by the passing of somebody I've never met, but good writers—and David/TEV was certainly one—put much of what's best about them into their writing. I never met David, but I feel like I knew an important part of him, and I valued his contributions here and in Soccer in a Football World very much.

The Exploding Vole's voice was one of the many that made me realize what a special "place" OTF is when I first discovered it a few years ago. That he was an American football fan who appreciated the international aspects of the game without snobbishly dismissing the U.S. game made me feel I had found a kindred spirit, and one to emulate. Like Sam, above, it wasn't till I had been posting here awhile that I found out that not only did he not dismiss U.S. soccer, he had written an excellent history of it, which I had read when it first became available at the library, years before I found OTF.

The fact that soccer has been so marginal until recently in the U.S. gives Soccer in a Football World an interesting feel, much like other great histories of hitherto neglected or underground subjects, like The Making of the English Working Class, or A People's History of the United States, or even Our Band Could Be Your Life. Like all the better books about sports, it's about much more than sports and athletes, but gives a window onto the larger world. I am very sad that TEV won't be able to share his knowledge and insights on this board anymore, but incredibly grateful that he left us so much to read and reread and learn from.

His last words to us, above, are dreadfully sad, but also inspiring. I send my best wishes and condolences to all his family and friends, and to everybody else who appreciated his books and his posts on OTF. He is truly missed and mourned by people all around the world.
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posted 02-07-2012 15:39
I hope you'll all take a look at this thread www.wsc.co.uk/forum-index/28-world/68551...rin-memorial-service

And if there is any way you can attend, please do. I would give anything to be there.
posted 02-07-2012 17:23
my god. i've been travelling for most of the last month, so the first i knew of this was the story on the site's front page today. i wish i had known earlier so i could have told dave how much i liked and respected him while he was still around to read it. i'm glad that plenty of people did have the opportunity to do that.

i spoke to dave a couple of times on the phone and we had him on our programme to talk about soccer in a football world when it was published. he was a lovely guy with a gentle, understated manner. i'll miss him.
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posted 02-07-2012 18:03
Reasons to feel bad/good:

1. I didn't see this thread because I hardly ever look on 'World' any more, and so I didn't get the chance to write to David, but I'm very glad that a lot of you obviously did, and that this is so beautifully, touchingly reflected in his parting message.

2. He won't be writing a comprehensive history of the NASL, though he would have been the best writer for the job. On the other hand, he left us three excellent books to remember him by.

3. He has died way too young. But a lot of us on OTF are around the same age, and we should all heed his final advice from this thread's powerful (and funny) opening post. And he's also helped us appreciate anew the communal value of this incredible message board.
posted 02-07-2012 19:01
Bruce Springsteen said in his eulogy to Clarence Clemons, "(He) doesn't leave the E Street Band when he dies, he leaves when we die." It's not uncommon for the grieving to comfort themselves and others with the thought that people do live on for as long as there are friends and family who keep them alive in their memories, but that seemed to me a particularly powerful and poignant way to express that thought.

Even for those of us who never met David, never spoke to him, never did anything other than read and enjoy his books and laugh at his more surreal posts on here, I'd like to think that our collective memory will make sure he stays part of the fabric of OTF for a long time to come. I know I'll think of him when I see Raith's result on a Saturday night, or when I pass a freshly popped small rodent on the roadside (boom, indeed!). Hell, I might even begin to look more kindly on Aston Villa....
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posted 02-07-2012 21:17
It's hard to add anything to any of the wonderfully expressed, sincere and poignant things expressed here, but sincerest condolences to David's family, friends, loved ones.

It might sound a bit naff but I saw a lot of those early fanzine writers such as David as sort-of role models, people who knew things, and could write things, about football that I really kind of envied.

And though I never met him in person he was, of course, a wise, witty, measured and valued contributor to this board. And will be greatly missed here. RIP TEV
posted 02-07-2012 23:09
It seems apt to post the card David sent me after we finished working on his book 'Soccer in a Football World'.

Though the opposite of what he says in his note is actually the case
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Last Edit: 02-07-2012 23:12:59 by Doug WSC.
posted 02-07-2012 23:21
Fucking hell. Had that bastard got no faults at all?

(apart from his hopelessly misguided views on jazz, of course).
posted 02-07-2012 23:35
In the few weeks since Vole's opening post, his advice at the end of it has been re-entering my mind from time to time. That will surely continue after reading this news, shameful as it feels that I should need a reminder to live.

So RIP David, and genuine thanks.
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posted 02-07-2012 23:57
I'd been keeping it together OK until Heliotrope linked to TEV's absurdist quiz thread. Not keeping it together any more.
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