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posted 24-08-2010 14:14
A thread for stories that engender the response noted in the title:

CIA may have poisoned a French town with LSD in 1951.

Doctors at the time concluded that bread at one of the town's bakeries had become contaminated by ergot, a poisonous fungus that occurs naturally on rye.

That view remained largely unchallenged until 2009, when an American investigative journalist, Hank Albarelli, revealed a CIA document labelled: "Re: Pont-Saint-Esprit and F.Olson Files. SO Span/France Operation file, inclusive Olson. Intel files. Hand carry to Belin - tell him to see to it that these are buried."

F. Olson is Frank Olson, a CIA scientist who, at the time of the Pont St Esprit incident, led research for the agency into the drug LSD.

David Belin, meanwhile, was executive director of the Rockefeller Commission created by the White House in 1975 to investigate abuses carried out worldwide by the CIA.


The Ulster Catholic Church tries to keep up with its brothers to the south.

The police, the Catholic Church and the state conspired to cover up a priest's suspected role in one of the worst atrocities of the Northern Ireland Troubles, an investigation has found.
posted 24-08-2010 14:44
Hmmm. The CIA got interested in mind control stuff during the Korean War - that eventualy led them to LSD through the MKULTRA project in the mid-50s. But the project that was the "parent" of MKULTRA, codenamed ARTICHOKE, apparently was launched on August 20, 1951 - four days after the events in France.

Which either makes this story unlikely or an unbelievably sinister coincidence, depending on your temperament, I suppose
posted 24-08-2010 14:49
maybe best to keep the provo priest on the other thread, but there's no distinction between the RCC in the North and south. Indeed the headquarters of the RCC is in Armagh, and the whole thing only really came out becase the ruc were quicker to prosecute brendan smyth than the gardai in the south.
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posted 24-08-2010 14:49
ursus arctos wrote:
A thread for stories that engender the response noted in the title:

CIA may have poisoned a French town with LSD in 1951.

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posted 24-08-2010 15:04
Ah, thanks for that aiatl. I didn't know that. Happy to keep the provo priest on your thread.

Gramsci, are we sure that the Agency only started experimenting in '51? I wouldn't have put it past some of the OSS guys to have been working on stuff earlier than that.

Of course, it could have been the rye, too. There is a history of those incidents.
posted 24-08-2010 15:13
I only know what I read on wikipedia.

Which explains a lot, I think.
posted 24-08-2010 16:34
Not on the same scale as drugging an entire town, but psycho woman bins cat. WTF! Why would anyone do that?
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posted 24-08-2010 17:24
My dad tells me that it used to be the thing to do among ten year old boys, um... like him, to put stray cats into unlocked cars for the unwitting owners to find the next morning as they went to work. This was before TV, like.
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posted 24-08-2010 18:10
WTF. The cat's owner has his terraced house in Coventry protected by CCTV cameras. Is he cooking meth or is he Ernst Stavro Blofeld?
Last Edit: 24-08-2010 18:11:17 by Amor de Cosmos.
posted 24-08-2010 23:37
Amor de Cosmos wrote:
WTF. The cat's owner has his terraced house in Coventry protected by CCTV cameras. Is he cooking meth or is he Ernst Stavro Blofeld?


You're asking the question no-one else is right now AdC.

WTF indeed...
posted 25-08-2010 00:01
NY Governor David Paterson had a press conference about the state winning federal "Race to the Top" education grants, which he called "race to the cock."
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posted 25-08-2010 07:21
And to think we all thought Salvador Cabañas was well 'ard just for not dying. Paraguayan strikers might be able to live through bullets to the head, but Polish expats in Germany don't even notice a hangover from them, apparently.
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posted 25-08-2010 12:13
Not sure if this is the place for it or not but it must be a pretty big sports bag. Or was he midget?
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/25/mi6...murdered-london-flat
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posted 25-08-2010 13:40
I've been looking for a thread on this. It really calls to mind the Ian MacEwan story The Innocent. There's a photo of the bag being carried out of the house on the BBC news page, and given the size of the bag you have to assume he's been dismembered (or was a midget, as gt3 suggests).

By the way, the BBC page has a fantastic quote that tells you all you need to know about modern, "we're all in this together" Britain:
Jason Hollands, 41, a City worker, who also lives nearby, said: "It's truly gruesome - this is a very mixed area of bankers and politicians.
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posted 25-08-2010 13:55
On that BBC page you link to PG, is George Osborne holding the bag in question?
posted 25-08-2010 14:00
Yesterday's "Daily Mirror" reported that the cat owner had had a lot of bother with people damaging his car so got the CCTV put in. But then, he would say that if he was some kind of criminal mastermind and as people don't just go round damaging cars for no reason, I suspect it may be gang related. In fact, this may have been a revenge binning.
posted 16-09-2010 20:44
Last Edit: 16-09-2010 20:45:34 by ursus arctos.
posted 16-09-2010 21:05
If you hadn't of said he was from Florida, I would ask Bored of Education if he recognized him.
posted 16-09-2010 21:14
Odds on him owning truck nutz?
posted 16-09-2010 21:18
I think this fellow (who was bailed by his mom) aspires to owning truck nutz.

Here's another one.

E! has ordered a new show called Bridalplasty, in which "brides-to-be compete in wedding-themed challenges to win extensive surgical procedures." So they can look perfect for their weddings, get it?
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