Cool.I don't fully understand you there though, to be honest. What questions? The problem with losing your temper, as I experience it, isn't so much an inability to ask questions, but either not asking the right ones or not arriving at particularly good answers.
Do you get what I mean when I called the internet completely frigging mental now? There's something in its make-up that always seems to lead to paranoia, misunderstandings and discussions like these. It's just fucking silly innit.
23 Feb 2013 22:40 - 23 Feb 2013 22:45#766294by Banana Banana
Just realised how long I have been away from OTF proper. This thread is over 4 years old and I don't remember any of it, have confused most of the characters invloved apart from the ones I have met - all of whom have been decent in real life. I'd like to think that the only person I had regular spats with and one complete over the top bawling (balling?) out with I would get on with in real life. Never put it to the test though.
Controversial I know, but for the older hands Justin H was driven off the board by bullying. Now I would not defend his actions but is very clear to me that the use at the time of anonymous posting (which I defended at the time - wrongly) was used to taunt someone and deliberately wind him up when he was in a highly vulnerable state. As I said I wouldn't defend his retaliation either.
I think the 'anonymous posters' must have been regulars for the most part because who else would just be lurking here all the time waiting to take potshots at someone who spent all his time here. This was clearly bullying.
I am very glad he is living a happy life in another country AND beginning to watch hopeless football teams again.
Banana Banana (since last world cup) previously Chirpy / Chippy / Chris F
Last Edit: 23 Feb 2013 22:45 by Banana Banana. Reason: first go was rubbish
There's always been a critical mass of tolerance and reasonable argument on this board, which enabled it to survive the Great Rucks era.
Unfortunately the rest of the internet — by and large — hasn't been so lucky. Unmoderated comment sections have become rocks that trolls inhabit, they make the whole browsing experience so poisonous and depressing I avoid it almost completely.
It's sad. For awhile it looked as if the web was going to be an excellent communication medium, but I guess that was just naive.
Wow. The mention of Justin. I was a lurker on the site back then (2001-2003 or so). Justin was someone who ruffled many feathers but was a fascinating read. He had one posting, perhaps a finale, on 'a kicking' that was frightening and disturbing - obviously enough that i still remember it. Good to hear from Chippy that he is well.
jv, just to reassure you further: I hadn't even noticed this thread until it got revived, and didn't read any of the posts that went up before last week (long arguments about nothing aren't my bag, and I gather it was one of those from years ago). So I was completely mystified just now as to why you might think I had you in mind!
I was blethering on about myself, really, and narcissistically building that into a universal truth. This is the kind of legerdemain that got me where I am today.
Wyatt Earp wrote: I think you should rethink the word "retaliation".
I don't know what happened but I know something happened between you and Justin.
So I realise that this might imply that I think that you were responsible for the online and/or anonymous bullying. I really don't think you were and apologise if this implied it.
There was a lot of bullying of Justin going on and a lot of the anoninimity was barely disguised. I also thought that he was being ganged up on overtly and then backed-up by anonymous posters who would stick the boot in more - at the same time. It was horrible bullying and gleeful goading of someone who was clearly unstable at the time.
The whole episode was shocking. People here goaded him for being odd and then had their beliefs about him for being odd confirmed when he overreacted to the bullying in an undefensible way. That was bullying surely?