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Great lower league goalscorers appreciation thread
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TOPIC: Great lower league goalscorers appreciation thread

  • oscar mike
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posted 25-10-2012 22:07
If you want to make a Killie fan of a certain age go misty-eyed just say the words "Willie Watters". (sigh)

Queen of the South and Alloa fans may not agree, mind.
posted 26-10-2012 00:55
A few in connections to Doncaster. Peter Kitchen who began at Rovers and went on to play for Orient and Cardiff. Isn't there a snackbar named after him (somewhat predictably) at Orient?

I was going to suggest Colin Cramb, but despite playing for a hell of a lot of clubs it seems he only ever really excelled at Doncaster, and possibly Shrewsbury.

Paul Barnes was prolific for York City amongst others in the Football League and carried on in non-league picked up a Conference Golden Boot aged 35 in Rovers' promotion season. Probably the last, great old-school centre forward we had.

On the non-league side Carl Alford spent a few years scoring for fun in the Conference; even managed more goals than appearances for Stevenage and then he signed for Doncaster... and scored just a single goal.
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posted 26-10-2012 02:29
"Willie Watters" [titter]

Is he related to Incontinentia Buttocks?
posted 26-10-2012 07:40
El Tel wrote:

5 - David Kelly - Newcastles top scorer in their promotion season of 92/93 but was sold to Wolves before the start of the following season to make way for the returning Peter Beardsley and Malcolm Allen.

What others spring to mind?


Kelly always came across as too good for the second tier, not good enough for the top flight. Bagged loads for Walsall in D2, then flopped at West Ham, dropped down a division to Newcastle, who shipped him out to Wolves, where he scored loads more.
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posted 26-10-2012 08:44
willie1foot wrote:
"Willie Watters" [titter]

Is he related to Incontinentia Buttocks?


Blasphemy!
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posted 26-10-2012 10:29
Isn't there a snackbar named after him (somewhat predictably) at Orient?


Yep. He's still a fairly regular visitor to Brisbane Road, and gets undiminishing adulation when he pops in to the Supporters Club. Great striker and decent bloke. And perhaps our most hero-worshipped ever player, thanks to his exploits in our 78 Cup run.

Why not watch some of this to get an idea?
posted 26-10-2012 10:38
For Oldham, I'll nominate Andy Ritchie. In 250 league games he managed 104 goals. The other obvious choice would be Roger Palmer, the man of mystery who remains our all-time top scorer. As a more recent one-season wonder, I'll nominate our loan signing Luke Beckett (Chester, Chesterfield, Stockport, Sheffield United, Oldham, Huddersfield, and then into non-league).

For other clubs, how about Lee Trundle?

For Farnborough (and others), how about David Leworthy (Spurs, Oxford, Reading, Farnborough, Dover, Rushden, Kingstonian, and others)? Boro broke the non-league transfer record selling him for £50,000 to Dover in 1993.
posted 26-10-2012 10:55
I was going to suggest Colin Cramb, but despite playing for a hell of a lot of clubs it seems he only ever really excelled at Doncaster, and possibly Shrewsbury.


Ah, he was really good for us as well. Until some dodgy Bristol bookies turned up at the training ground looking to reclaim some money that he owed them from his time there. Dario turfed him out by the end of the week.
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posted 26-10-2012 10:58
Has anyone mentioned Gary Penrice and Devon White, the ruthless front pairing of Bristol Rovers' direct 1990 Div 3-winning side.
posted 26-10-2012 11:26
Hello, long time reader, first time poster. Surprised that no-one has mentioned Jimmy Quinn,

Joined Reading in 1992 - a certain Tony Pulis (then Bournemouth) stating that you couldn't turn down $50k for a 32-year old. Consistent goalscorer in his five years with RFC, typically finishing top scorer. One of those players where Div 2 / Championship was his natural level.

Also a regular starter and scorer for Northern Ireland.
posted 26-10-2012 11:30
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posted 26-10-2012 13:08
Andy Payton.

Almost a goal every other game for Hull, Huddersfield, Barnsley and Burnley, busting the myth that he only ever seemed to score against us...
posted 26-10-2012 13:42


Iwan Roberts, well known for his choice of headwear and goalscoring prowess when playing against the Derby.
posted 26-10-2012 14:33
tee rex wrote:
Smash and Grab ...

Ah, Bannister and Warboys.
posted 27-10-2012 12:07
Great thread, very much enjoyed it.

Was a figure of fun for some, but Stockport were a very good lower league side in the early 90s and this guy was unstoppable at times.

posted 27-10-2012 13:35
Phil Stant - Falklands War veteran, was bought out of the Army by Hereford with whom he was a prolific goal scorer in the late 80s.

A couple of names from the 90s were Carl Dale and Chris Pike, both at Cardiff I think.


Just missed Pike but seconded for Stant and Dale. I like to think that they are the sort of players that would be anti-rebrand but I don't want to check just in case.

Steve Bull - Won England caps as a 2nd division player. Stayed loyal to Wolves who won back to back promotions from the 4th to the 2nd but never to the top flight in his time there.


I am sure that, when Bothroyd was capped, a lot of commentators missed Bull as a being a second division player when he had caps.

Gary Bennet and Luke Beckett are definitely players that I remember seeing around the same time.

Cardiff also had Steve White who never strayed into the EPL, I don't think and, of course, Leo Fortune West who never troubled the highest league. Lower down the leagues was Scott Partridge who was OK at Cardiff and Brentford but brilliant at Bath City

Although Jason Scotland had a season or two in the EPL, he still strikes me as a good lower league striker primarily. Funnily enough, Jon Stead's post EPL career isn't quite as good as I thought it would be statistically. Maybe it is because he always scored against Cardiff. Joey Beauchamp is another one. His time at West Ham hardly counts does it
posted 27-10-2012 13:53
I feel I should mention Tamworth's most prolific goalscorer of recent times, Mark Hallam (pictured here in our worst ever kit)

He scored 115 goals in 237 appearances for us in the Southern Premier League. He's been around the block in Non League, also playing for Bedworth United, Forest Green Rovers, Worcester City, Hinckley Town, Ilkeston Town, Gloucester City, Hednesford Town, Boston United and Leicester United.
posted 27-10-2012 13:54
Richard Jolley was ROTTEN for us, mind.
posted 27-10-2012 13:55
Wow, there's 4 mentioned above who pulled on the Black & Amber.

Andy Payton was the most self-centred, look-at-me-don't-you-know-who-I-am tosspot that pulled on a City shirt till Bullard turned up. He certainly knew his way to goal though, but will probably only be remembered for being found pissed and half-naked in his ex-wife's wardrobe.

Bannister and Warboys were reunited in 1978 to try and stave off relegation. They failed, rather miserably.

Kev Francis' legs had gone by the time he joined us, but he became a cult hero in our run to the Div. 3 play-offs, but a costly error in the 2nd leg at Brisbane Road was his parting shot, and I don't think he played league football again after that.
posted 30-10-2012 12:53
TonTon wrote:
Richard Jolley was ROTTEN for us, mind.

Probably didn't like playing for you 'cos you couldn't spell his name properly...
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