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Rubbing Ronaldo's nose in it - ECL round 1
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TOPIC: Rubbing Ronaldo's nose in it - ECL round 1

posted 18-09-2012 17:13
He's also an absolutely fantastic player.
posted 18-09-2012 17:16
The Awesome Berbaslug!!! wrote:

He's scored a goal in every game over three years. He's their most famous, and their most important player by a million miles. To pay someone who contributes that much to their team only 2% of turnover is actually remarkably stingy. Their total wagebill is 46% of their turnover, and he gets 1/23rd of that in basic. He's right to look for more. It's not as though Real madrid are going to do anything else with this money.

So that's more than 4% of total wages paid, from a club with one of the highest rates of turnover in the world. Real will have hundreds of employees, not just the first team squad, so that's not a bad chunk. It's not like it's his only source of income, either.
posted 18-09-2012 17:29
You two do realise that you are arguing on the internet about what proportion of Real Madrid's turnover should be paid to one of its footballers, yeah?
posted 18-09-2012 17:31
Well that was one of the subjects under discussion.
posted 18-09-2012 17:32
Just checking.
posted 18-09-2012 17:53
well can you think of any other sensible economic rationale to justify a player's wage?

he's their most important, valuable player by miles, and he earns them an enormous amount of money. 2% of their turnover is fuck all to be paying him, particularly when they're not supposed to be concerned by making a profit.
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posted 18-09-2012 19:00
Here's a proper translation of that Marca article. The other half kindly did it on her lunch break for me.

Jose Mourinho is now a troubled and lost manager, and wrong in his diagnosis about Real Madrid’s illnesses. It’s not a lack of attitude. Nobody failed to use their legs at Sevilla, no one forgot to run and to give their best. It was a bold match, as Relaño would say. One of many that has been played by Real Madrid under the yoke of Mourinho. The typical encounter that Madrid would win last season easily, with just a sneeze from Ronaldo filtering through the squad. The problem is much deeper but escapes banal and simplistic analysis from the trainer because it would point him out as the guiltiest -- which he is.

Real Madrid’s problem is that it doesn’t even play “tabas” [knuckle bones]. Even worse, it plays nothing. It happens so since Mourinho took charge of the team. Within the virtues that have taken it to win la Liga and to shift Barcelona’s throne, good playing precisely is not one of them. The virtues are the ones that have to do with the bugle’s call, living by the opponent’s defects, with counterattack football, with sucking the rival’s blood, with physical intensity and concentration, with the camouflage effect of Cristiano Ronaldo’s goals that so many evenings of bad play have covered.

Mourinho’s football is commonly used by small teams to avoid relegation. The biggest success by the manager has been converting his primary game in a system useful to win titles. In the short and medium term it works. But in the long run, Mourinho’s teams lack grandeur. And, also, if they coincide in time with a rival like Barcelona, the comparison results in being especially uncomfortable. The fan knows, even if he’s an associate and subscriber of Real Madrid, how some win and how others win. If the associate in question has years of antiquity and his arse peeled from sitting at the Bernabeu, he must be suffering authentic embarrassment.

DRAINING THE LUMP. Mourinho will never acknowledge it and will always bring debate to his field, to the mud in which he’s good handling himself: by distributing blame and draining the lump. Turning on the fan, so the small pieces of scattered manure stain others while his figure remains unpolluted, is the specialty of the house. This week it’s turn to blame the players, load them with the responsibility and turn the manager into a lateral character, secondary, at a margin of the team’s problems, as if the deal wasn’t with him. We have won, they have lost. From the manual. The typical character that would flee a hit-and-run scene after causing it. He’s done it when he was asked about Cristiano’s sadness. Suddenly, Mourinho ceased to be manager and spokesman of Real Madrid.

Turns out that being Valdano was more difficult than what it appeared to be. The Almighty has been incapable of superseding the figure of the yearned spokesman even in a press conference. The infantile case of the sad, lonely and abandoned crack, is the typical matter that Valdano would’ve taken care of in five minutes, in the midst of a horde of journalists, from the car window.

UNPURPOSE. The press conference of Sevilla was a unpurpose, a bulk error, a demonstration that Mourinho doesn’t know where he stands, a manifest incapability to detect the team’s problems, a permanent confusion of the arse with the temples. The coach, who brags so much about not throwing shite at his players, poured a whole bucket onto them. As a rhetorical figure, he auto-inflicted himself at some point, but it was more to not be left looking to the fans like he was taking advantage, than doing it for self-convincement. And everything under the acquiescence of the club that’s run by Florentino Mendes and Jorge Perez. Or was it Jorge Mendes and Florentino Perez? It’s all the same. Tomeito-tomato in the curious hegemony that brings this singular binomy. Mourinho says that, right now, he doesn’t have a team. What needs to be ascertained is whether Real Madrid has a manager or a hair-growing-products salesman.
posted 18-09-2012 19:36
Mourinho's benched Sergio Ramos for the Man City game.
posted 18-09-2012 20:02
Essien is looking out of his league here - misplaced passes, poor control, getting in the way of Madrid's build ups with a glacial decision making process. It's a shame to see.

Bet he scores a 40 yard winner then.
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posted 18-09-2012 20:10
Madrid are well on top. Hart has had to make two decent saves already and Khedira stabbed a deflected Ronaldo shot over the bar from close range.
posted 18-09-2012 20:13
Exactly 17 years ago, on Tuesday 17th September 1996, I was at Sincil Bank watching Lincoln drub Man City 4-1 in the League Cup.
posted 18-09-2012 20:21
Think about Mancini and Mourinho.

Close your eyes.

Think of the most hilarious Mancini bringing a knife to a Mourinho gunfight game that they would have.

It's pretty much that game.

That said, at least Mancini has a bulletproof vest in Joe Hart. He's the English Iker.
posted 18-09-2012 20:24
What the hell's happening in Paris ? They're goin' gorillas. 3-0 over Kiev.
posted 18-09-2012 20:27
For about the third time, Yaya Toure has just muscled his way through the Real Madrid Midfield with ease. Agree with the comment about Essien, 5 years ago he'd be a match for Toure, but this is men against old men.
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posted 18-09-2012 20:28
Hart and Kompany, both dithering, leave Ronaldo's dangerous lofted ball to each other and Higuain belts it over the bar from six yards out. A really bad miss by somebody who never seems to look the part in these kinds of matches.

City are playing as if they're 6-0 up from the home leg. They don't look bothered about closing Madrid down or shutting them out.
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posted 18-09-2012 20:38
By the way, did anyone else hear Townsend say "Go on!" when Toure burst into the Madrid half with the ball?
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posted 18-09-2012 20:51
It's hardly news that Townsend happily cheerleads for whichever English team is playing. Tyldesley's barely any better.

I'm supporting Man City rather fervently and I still find it fucking annoying (not least because my instinctive reaction is to cheer for the opposite of Andy Townsend).
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posted 18-09-2012 20:53
Meanwhile, Queen of the South have just taken the lead against Rangers at Ibrox.
posted 18-09-2012 20:55
Hofzinser wrote:
It's hardly news that Townsend happily cheerleads for whichever English team is playing. Tyldesley's barely any better.


Tyldesley must be conflicted with his Ronaldo obsession though.
posted 18-09-2012 20:57
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Meanwhile, Queen of the South have just taken the lead against Rangers at Ibrox.


Good game. Neil Alexander keeping The Rangers in the game. It's on Sky 168, folks and the commentary makes more sense than Tyldsley/Townsend.
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