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posted 28-03-2008 12:31
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I think I might have it. I'll devise a clue and see.
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posted 28-03-2008 12:33
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G takes party organiser on this train ride at the fairground (5)
(If I'm right with train?)
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posted 28-03-2008 12:34
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Would this work?
This train runs from Milan to Manchester. (9)
Or is it wrong, or too simple?
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posted 28-03-2008 12:41
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Ghost's leading lady gets together for Gilgamesh (7)
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posted 28-03-2008 13:07
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JtS wrote:
Would this work?
This train runs from Milan to Manchester. (9)
Or is it wrong, or too simple?
That's a pretty good clue. The "to Manchester" bit might be superfluous, though. In fact, you wouldn't lose anything (and you'd gain a measure of elegance) by reducing it to Milan train (9). You've still got all the wordplay you need ("Inter city") and a definition. It's a matter of personal style, though.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:09
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Mind you, I still need to be convinced that "train" is correct. I'm probably just missing something.
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Last Edit: 28-03-2008 14:07 By Andy C.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:36
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I don't think "Milan train" in itself would be sufficient to get you to "intercity", but I prefer the Telegraph to the Guardian. I thought JtS's clue was fairer (although I have to admit I still wouldn't have got it quickly, if at all, I was looking for some play of letters from the end of "Milan" to the start of "Manch"), not thinking about the "Inter" giveaway.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:38
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How about "Football special from Milan to Manchester (9)."
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posted 28-03-2008 13:45
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I don't know about that. Ideally, every word in a clue should be there for a purpose (although sometimes it's necessary to include some non-functional verbiage to get a clue that reads gramatically) and in JtS's original "runs from" and (unless I'm missing something) "to Manchester" don't really add anything.
It's near-inevitable that some of the clues in this thread will have some words in them that don't add to the sense or the mechanics, though, because the setter has to fit a specific word or phrase - the solution of the preceding clue - in there.
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Last Edit: 28-03-2008 13:48 By Andy C.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:48
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Andy C wrote:
[quote]I don't know about that. Ideally, every word in a clue should be there for a purpose
Agreed, ideally, but those are very, very hard to craft. My Portuguese river one above took a lot of hard work (which no-one's got yet).
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posted 28-03-2008 13:50
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I agree with pretty much all Andy's points here. And I think "Milan train" works just fine and is the best of the theme so far.
"Train" was the answer I had for Wyatt's too but I'm also not entirely sure why.
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posted 28-03-2008 14:03
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Having said all that, Jason's clue was just fine. When I got the answer I knew it was right, and was the only possible solution - and that's by far the most important criterion for a good crossword clue.
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Last Edit: 28-03-2008 14:05 By Andy C.
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posted 28-03-2008 15:43
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The brow is furrowed over the Gilgamesh one, however.
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posted 28-03-2008 15:48
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I've got it (at least, I'm 99% sure I have, despite not actually understanding a significant part of it). I'll get a clue up soon.
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posted 28-03-2008 15:59
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Complaint as angry demigod loses wings and gets irritated tip (8)
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posted 28-03-2008 16:09
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Impetigo makes geriatric mopier with this infectious individual (7)
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posted 28-03-2008 16:12
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I've got it but I'm buggered if I can actually write clues.
Edit - that was to the previous post. Oops.
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Last Edit: 28-03-2008 16:13 By Crusoe.
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posted 28-03-2008 16:21
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Carrier, perhaps, for the foreign bread (5)
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posted 28-03-2008 17:07
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Resemblance of bagel found in rift or u-shaped valley (5)
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posted 28-03-2008 18:11
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Er, I'm sorry, but it wasn't train! I've had a meeting all afternoon, too. Not sure what to do now. Might be best to carry on?
Further letters (and I think you'll get it now, otherwise I'm gonna get mediaeval on your asses).
T--GN
Incidentally, there's an error in today's Guardian crossword, I'm pretty sure. 1 down should be (5,3,7) rather than (15). Poor show.
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