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posted 14-03-2010 00:33

 
I absolutely hate records that are prefixed or suffixed with the thread title but for some reason, I have found out the following stats from this period so I thought I share the waste of 15 minutes with you.

Only 9 teams in the current Premiership were there in 1992/93

There are 22 teams outside the EPL that have been in it in this period

Norwich
Qpr
Sheff Weds
Sheff UTd
Coventry
Ipswich
Leeds
Southampton
Oldham
Palace
Boro
Forest
Newcastle
Swindon
Leicester
Derby
Charlton
Watford
Bradford
West Brom
Reading
Wimbledon

Make of that what you will
 
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posted 14-03-2010 00:45

 
For me, Bradford suffered the most for their time in the Premier League.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 00:50

 
Shouldn't Barnsley be in that list?
 
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posted 14-03-2010 00:52

 
And Crystal Palace but let us not split hairs.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 00:55

 
Since the Premiership began, football has become a game massively over-populated by cunts from top to bottom.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 00:57

 
steaua power wrote:
For me, Bradford suffered the most for their time in the Premier League.
They're certainly still suffering now, but the situation they are in now is a result of ridiculous overspending in an effort to cling on to the big boys coat tails. Throwing money at players like Collymore and Carbone was only ever going to end in tears.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 00:59

 
steaua power wrote:
And Crystal Palace but let us not split hairs.
He did mention Palace though, he can't be expected to remember both clubs.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 01:06

 
Sean of the Shed wrote:
steaua power wrote:
And Crystal Palace but let us not split hairs.
He did mention Palace though, he can't be expected to remember both clubs.


Ah, balls.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 01:08

 
Sean of the Shed wrote:
steaua power wrote:
For me, Bradford suffered the most for their time in the Premier League.
They're certainly still suffering now, but the situation they are in now is a result of ridiculous overspending in an effort to cling on to the big boys coat tails. Throwing money at players like Collymore and Carbone was only ever going to end in tears.


My point exactly. The fact that Bradford are still struggling almost a decade later bodes not well for Portsmouth, who I would like to charitably describe as Bradford on crack.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 01:09

 
Is that normal for the top flight? Lets take the same time period for the previous 17 seasons.

Teams from the First Division 1974-1975 (22 teams) that were there in 1991-92 - only twelve

Liverpool
Everton
Sheff Utd
Man City
Leeds
QPR
West Ham
Coventry
Arsenal
Tottenham
Luton
Chelsea

There were also 22 teams outside the top flight that had been in it in that period:
Derby
Ipswich
Stoke
Middlesbrough
Burnley
Wolves
Newcastle
Birmingham
Leicester
Carlisle
Sunderland
Bristol City
West Brom
Bolton
Brighton
Stoke
Swansea
Watford
Oxford
Charlton
Portsmouth
Millwall

And Carlisle were in the top flight in 1974-75 and bottom of the league in 1991-1992
 
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posted 14-03-2010 07:51

 
I worked out I'd seen 5 of the current Premiership teams in either the third or fourth tier in the 90s, which quite surprised me, as my assumption was that upward mobility had stalled.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 09:55

 
For me, Bradford suffered the most for their time in the Premier League.

I don't think Wimbledon did that well out of it, in the end, either.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 10:07

 
I worked out I'd seen 5 of the current Premiership teams in either the third or fourth tier in the 90s, which quite surprised me, as my assumption was that upward mobility had stalled.

I think that too, I still sometimes have to do a double-take when I see Wigan and Hull's names in the Premier League.

There was quite a spate of the "third to first" phenomenon when I was a kid, though, it seemed - Bristol City, Swansea City, Oxford United, Wimbledon. Tranmere Rovers all but made it too.

Nottingham Forest might do it this year, but they're hardly a "small club" in the same way.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 10:40

 
Rogin the Armchair Fan wrote:
For me, Bradford suffered the most for their time in the Premier League.

I don't think Wimbledon did that well out of it, in the end, either.

It wasn't Wimbledon's place in the top flight that did for them though. They were the polar opposite of Bradford, not paying inflated wages or outlandish transfer fees, but finding, developing and selling on players such as Warren Barton and John Scales.
The £7.5m they paid for John Hartson may have been a turning point, but their eventual demise had nothing to do with football reasons whatsoever, and it took the ridiculous decision to franchise the club by the FA to finally get the club back in their own borough, sadly this had to come at the expense of their league status.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 12:16

 
finally get the club back in their own borough

They're not back in their own borough, though.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 12:20

 
No, Plough Lane was sold to new developers weeks before the decision was made, but had been available all the time. It's like the owners hadn't even bothered to look in Merton.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 14:36

 
I like the table in the opening post as it puts us in third place, oh for those dizzy heights again, any league will do.
“Throwing money at players like Collymore and Carbone was only ever going to end in tears” - and it did. Excellent player was Benito but he never was able to shake off the mercenary tag. I recall a rumour circulating that he arranged to be substituted part way through one match so he could get to the airport in time for a flight, it wouldn’t surprise me if it were true.
Can’t imagine Mr Irvine standing for it mind, then again I can't imagine players of Benito's quality gracing S6 for some time yet.
 
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posted 14-03-2010 17:14

 
What is this red and white ball being used in the EPL this weekend? Some kind of Sport Relief thing?
 
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posted 14-03-2010 17:18

 
 
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posted 14-03-2010 17:26

 
Ah, that would have been my second guess.

Next question, are Sunderland and Man City playing a game completely without a midfield as some kind of sponsored charity thing?
 
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