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I didn't realise things had got that bad, Fortuna
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TOPIC: I didn't realise things had got that bad, Fortuna
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posted 12-03-2010 17:58

 
I still think of Fortuna Dusseldorf as the Bundesliga regulars who gave the world the Allofs brothers and narrowly lost out to Barcelona in the 1979 European Cup-Winners' Cup final, so I was surprised to learn that they've spent most of the last decade sliding further and further down the German pyramid. However, they've apparently now hauled themselves back to the second tier, so perhaps the glory days are in sight again for this once-proud Westphalian club.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 18:27

 
Could have been worse. At least they're not Fortuna Sittard.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 18:45

 
so perhaps the glory days are in sight again for this once-proud Westphalian club.

Like the song says, the moon's either waxing or it's waning. I bet they've seen it all at Fortuna.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 20:04

 
In Dusseldorf before the Wall fell...

I tried to resurrect their fortunes on Champ Manager a couple of times, but their chairman was a dick and kept sacking me.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 23:26

 
I went to Alemannia Aachen v Fortuna a couple of weeks ago, they had about 3,000 fans, not bad for a Monday night (altough it's a kind of derby). They fully deserved their 1-0 win and are 4th of 5th. Ex Boro Slovakian forward Nemeth was playing for them
 
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posted 13-03-2010 09:40

 
On a pedantic note of geography, Düsseldorf is in the Rhineland, not Westphalia. Basically a suburb of Köln (as only somebody with a Köln bias would say).
 
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posted 13-03-2010 10:46

 
köln- düsseldorf, geht doch lieber karneval feiern
 
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posted 15-03-2010 14:10

 
One of my fondest memories of German football was watching them.

Gladbach borrowed their stadium (built for the '74 WM) for a number of big games (inc the European Cup semi-final 1st leg v Liverpool when Ray Clemence ducked under Bonhof's free kick) when the Bokelberg was being rebuilt in the late 70s, but in order to retain home advantage (it being the next town/a suburb), they played Fortuna at SV Rheydt's ground, holding about 18,000.

We only just managed to squeeze in and ended up standing on the roof of a kiosk. Dusseldorf led 2-0 at half time but a tubby Jupp Heynckes, in the swansong of his career, came off the bench and scored twice (I think, may even have been a hat-trick) to secure a great 3-2 comeback win.

The crush/atmosphere in the small ground was a bit of a forestaste of what it'd be like the year after when I started watching Scottish football.
 
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posted 15-03-2010 14:20

 
I can remember when Gerd Zimmermann used to score from the penalty spot with shots that appeared to have been fired from a cannon.
 
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posted 15-03-2010 14:22

 
Wow! Just looked it up and found...:

Tore:

* 0:1 Klaus Allofs (12.)
* 0:2 Gerd Zewe (47.)
* 1:2 Christian Kulik (74.)
* 2:2 Rainer Bonhof (79.)
* 3:2 Josef Heynckes (83.)

Strafen:

* gelbe Karte Hans-Hubert Vogts
* gelbe Karte Heiner Baltes

Zuschauer:

27000



...that Juppi only got the winner
- all 3 goals in the last 16 mins-no wonder I was excited/it stuck in the memory.
-27000 there! I find that astonishing. Very unsafe it was too.

And nice to see Berti's full name going into the ref's book.

25th March 1978, by the way.
 
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posted 16-03-2010 18:03

 
Fortuna D were a regular side featured on Soccer Made In Germany.

Hail Toby Charles.

Zimmerman's penalties and free kicks were Bonhof-like scary.

Knew they'd hit hard times awhile back. Not too far away, Bayer Uerdingen has seriously dropped since their mid-80s success.
 
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posted 16-03-2010 18:17

 
 
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posted 16-03-2010 20:46

 
What is now KFC Uerdingen fell off a cliff after Bayer pulled their sponsorship (and no, they haven't been replaced by Colonel Sanders, the acronym is for Krefelder Fussball Club).

They are currently in sixth tier of the German pyramid (following a couple of administrative relegations/denial of licenses), and recently signed world traveller (and former Bundesliga Golden Boot) Ailton, who looked as if he had spent the last five years eating his way around the world.
 
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posted 16-03-2010 22:05

 
pre - internet days I remember looking in a German atlas for "Uerdingen" and finding this tiny neighborhood looking town. Took a bit more investigating to figure out the Krefeld connection.
 
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posted 16-03-2010 22:14

 
Ailton in his latest kit:



I'm afraid that he ate the rest of the elephant.
 
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posted 16-03-2010 22:48

 
Ailton looked pretty much like that when he was at his best though. I reckon he basically nicked a rugby league players body.
 
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posted 16-03-2010 22:52

 
Yes, he's always been a big lad (and I'm not one to be saying anything on this topic), but he's added a few more X's to the XXL since Werder:

 
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posted 16-03-2010 23:06

 
Ailton, recently:

 
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posted 17-03-2010 00:05

 
I haven't looked at Etienne's link to the 79 Final but I do sort of recall it was a brutal match I think ?
 
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posted 17-03-2010 00:09

 
Uerdingen now play in a league containing both SV Straelen and SV Straelen's reserve team.

There's a fact for you
 
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