An arrogant Man Utd fan?

Whatever next!

Some people really can't spot a wind up when they see one.

Maybe not Liq, but TMK has stayed "in character" for a few years now.

Nah, the wind up thing doesn't fly.

I can understand why you might think that I was being entirely serious when I described inter milan performances as being like a decaying hideous deep sea monster that gets washed up on the beach.



I mean you've all seen them playing against english teams. Isn't that a fair enough description?

As for Lucio, I recently saw uli hesse lichtenberger describing his move to inter as a blessing in disguise for Bayern. One that could help them regain their title from wolfsburg. I mean so what if he is a world champion. So were roque junior, and kleberson. If he was all that good, he'd be playing for a better club than inter milan.

as for the uefa rankings for leagues, the gap between 3rd and second is huge. There is also a huge lagged effect, where all of the difference between italy and the leagues below them is in the years 2004-5 and 05-6, since then they've gone from being the second ranked league, to the third ranked league, to more or less the fifth ranked league three years in a row, and this year is looking particularly grim.

but the effect of losing third place for italy is that they will lose a champions league place to germany. Which means that ac milan will struggle to maintain their model of not caring about the league, and saving themselves for four champions league game, which has provided most of italy's uefa coefficient points over the last decade. Also from sixth, it's not that big a step to losing your third champions league place.

I mean you could cover the world in a list of things that andy townsend doesn't know about, before complaining about his lack of knowledge about the fifth strongest league in europe you should ask, should you view this any differently to his lack of knowledge about the portuguese league or the russian league, or any other of the second tier european leagues?

For God's sake Colm, it's embarassign enough when it's a Little Englander banging the Premiership drum as loudly as you do but a proud Irishman...Remember Churchill man...

...and Cromwell.

As for Lucio, I recently saw uli hesse lichtenberger describing his move to inter as a blessing in disguise for Bayern. One that could help them regain their title from wolfsburg. I mean so what if he is a world champion. So were roque junior, and kleberson. If he was all that good, he'd be playing for a better club than inter milan.

I mentioned his being a world champion inre handling pressure situations. Of course it doesn't by itself prove that someone is all that; that's down to individual performances, which, in Lucio's case, have been generally pretty solid from what I've seen. "If he was all that good, he'd be playing for a better club than inter milan" is absurd on its face and doesn't demonstrate anything other than your bias.

as for the uefa rankings for leagues, the gap between 3rd and second is huge.

What, because you say it is? Based on what? you're only going to be able to point to incremental differences.

It's likely Chelsea will go through of course, but then, all Inter have to do is draw.

He's actually right about the gap between second and third.

The current table.

Skipping back a page or two, but I've just seen this on Henry Winter's Twitter feed:

Talked to Southgate, ITV's rising star. Eloquent, intelligent & heading to World Cup. Given England's woes, I told him to take boots/armband

Oh, what dry wit...

Okay, I've never paid attention to FIFA rankings so I'm not about to start taking the UEFA stats very seriously as qualitative judgments (rightly or wrongly). And I would guess TMK (who I mean no disrespect toward and whose opinions I respect) doesn't put much stock in such things either and would prefer to use his own judgment to determine which leagues are playing the better football. And I'm not disputing Italy's 3rd (or 5th) place ranking, either.

I just don't get the attitude that wants to say these 'lesser leagues' are shit, or that any one playing in them is by definition an inferior kind of player to anyone you'd find in Ye Barclays Premier League. some great players don't actually want to play in England.

SamLKelly wrote:
Skipping back a page or two, but I've just seen this on Henry Winter's Twitter feed:

Talked to Southgate, ITV's rising star. Eloquent, intelligent & heading to World Cup. Given England's woes, I told him to take boots/armband

Oh, what dry wit...

Henry Winter's Twitter feed is bad for the heart. He doesn't even follow anyone, the arrogant twat.

after my disastrous prediction at the start of this thread, I make 2-2 tonight my "lock of the week"

there is no way jose will go home tonight without having knocked chelsea out

What is "The Curse of Derris" in Italian or Portuguese?

Hmm. What a lot of nonsense from Kubelgog once more.

This is nothing to do with Italian football, ITV pay substantial amounts of money for the rights to the Champions League and as each game only features 2 teams and roughly 22-28 players then it's not a stretch to expect their employed summarisers to do their homework on who is participating and not stumble about elongating the narrowest English angle they read in The Sun on the way to the studio.

The thorough, intense, irrational dislike for Italian football that Colm has is purely down to the fact that their clubs don't win very much in European terms now. He is typical of many Irish football people who only like and support big teams who win loads of things and pretty much guarantee them some sort of silverware to celebrate every year.

rick derris wrote:
after my disastrous prediction at the start of this thread, I make 2-2 tonight my "lock of the week"

Hmm...that is a big lock...

Veetle not working tonight. Sopcast channels being shit.

how is ross turnball playing in a champions league latter stage knock out game?

he hast done anything wrong. yet

a very average keeper whilst at cardiff

Got Sopcast working now, although so far it hasn't been worth it. Just looks like 22 cunts running about. Fancy.