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posted 01-09-2010 11:34
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Sorry, yes:
www.cricinfo.com/match-fixing-anniversar...nt/story/464111.html
I am worried about Bangladesh's vulnerability to this, given poor pay, and I see someone approached Shakib. He seems to have done the right thing though. I think finding someone had got to him or Tamim or anyone else now they're improving would finish me off.
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posted 02-09-2010 09:38
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Butt, Amir and Asif to miss rest of the tour.
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posted 02-09-2010 11:00
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Astonishingly amateurish press conference on some steps outside a building somewhere. Some chap who looks like a diplomat is being assailed by a scrum of questions in several languages.
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posted 02-09-2010 11:02
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The chap was the High Commissioner.
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posted 02-09-2010 12:50
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Swanninswingers Cat wrote:
Meanwhile, mixed news for KP. He's got a new job, with Surrey, but has described his dropping from the England one-dayers on Twitter as a "fuck up".
Source: Jon Agnew (the original's been deleted)
Geoff Miller has made himself look more like Ned Flanders with his absurd reaction to this. I'm surprised Miller is such a sensitive soul bearing in mind he shared an England dressing room with Ian Botham for a few years.
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posted 02-09-2010 15:40
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Good Lord, that High Commissioner has laid it on a bit thick there in denying the allegations. Why didn't he keep his mouth shut?
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posted 02-09-2010 15:58
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What quote are you reacting to?
Cricinfo is running the following, which seems absolutely par for the course:
"They are innocent until proven guilty. They are under interrogation so they have to defend themselves. They are bright young men, one of them has just broken a world record, and we will go to a court of law to defend them."
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posted 02-09-2010 16:09
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I'm assuming he's refering to the Beeb:
The three Pakistan cricketers accused of corruption may have been set up, according to the country's high commissioner Wajid Shamsul Hasan.
When asked whether Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir, who are being investigated for spot-fixing, had been framed, Hasan replied: "Yes."
Hasan claims the News of the World video allegedly exposing the scandal may have been made after the incident.
However, the paper said it "refuses to respond to such ludicrous allegations".
Asif and Amir are alleged to have bowled three no-balls on purpose at pre-determined times to facilitate betting coups after a "middle-man" accepted £150,000 in cash from an undercover reporter from the News of the World.
The newspaper published the claims last Sunday, just days after the incidents were alleged to have taken place on the Thursday and Friday of the fourth Test at Lord's.
The cricketers Hasan referred to, all now at the centre of a police investigation, will miss the rest of their country's tour of England.
Before stating that he believed the players may have been framed, Hasan earlier on Thursday insisted the players were "innocent".
"The players have voluntarily offered not to be included [in the tour]," he said. "They want to clear their names first."
Later he emerged from a Pakistan Cricket Board inquiry in London to tell the BBC that the News of the World videotape of its meeting with the "middle-man" - cricket agent Mazhar Majeed - was inconclusive.
"You [the media] are jumping to conclusions, because no-balls are not taped like that," he said.
"We have not seen videos - what the time [was when they were taken], what the date [was]... whether they were taken before or after the match."
"Do you have answers to the questions?"
When asked if the video could be fake, he replied: "You [the media] must know better because you are the media people."
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posted 02-09-2010 17:26
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I don't see what's so outrageous about that, either.
They were obviously set up; that's what the NOTW does.
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posted 02-09-2010 17:44
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He's using "set up" as a way of saying innocent, I think. They may well have been set up, but they would still be very much in the shit if they bowled no-balls to order. Innocent till proven guilty was a quite sufficient thing to say. He has spoken to the players, I know, but he's going to look very daft if the tape isn't a fraud now.
I saw what looked like a live report on the BBC. For a start, it shouldn't have been given on the steps with all, so it seemed, everyone in the area able to shout out questions. And he gave every impression of talking on the hoof (mixed metaphor). For instance, he had one half-hearted attempt at avoiding saying "set up", then promptly said "yes" when a questioner used the phrase. Looked like he'd had a brief and then couldn't stick to it.
There was also a feeble attempt to make it look like the interviewer hadn't ever played cricket. Something like "you tried bowling with a wet ball?"
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posted 02-09-2010 17:55
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He's responding to aggressive questions in his second language from a tabloid pack that is frothing at the mouth.
Try to separate the actual quotes from the Muraliesque spin that the press has surrounded them with.
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posted 02-09-2010 18:14
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I saw it live on TV (I think). I was responding directly to that, not what anyone else said about it.
All you say about second language and media scrum is true- he'll get crucified for "mental torture" but he can be allowed that. But surely the circumstances pointed up the need to deadbat and hold a proper press conference somewhere. Why did he feel he had to go outside and talk like that?
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posted 02-09-2010 18:17
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Good question.
It wouldn't shock me at all if he was under instructions to create a "good visual" that could be spun (in Urdu) to the folks back home. The government is pulling the strings here.
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posted 03-09-2010 18:00
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An interesting survey of past NOTW "stings" from the Grauniad.
This latest story follows four of the most remarkable coups in the world of sport. Two of these – the supposed extortion of the England football captain David Beckham by a gang said to be plotting to kidnap his wife and transcripts of conversations with the jockey Kieren Fallon said to implicate him in deliberately losing a race – ended up in court before both cases were thrown out. And now, lawyers feel, last Sunday's investigation into the activities of Mazhar Majeed, and his suggestions that Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Amir and Salman Butt had conspired with him to bowl deliberate no-balls during the fourth Test at Lord's, is also unlikely to end in criminal charges for the players.
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posted 04-09-2010 18:26
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And just a few weeks after their protestations that they were at Croydon Athletic for footballing reasons not money, the manager and first team squad have all now walked out.
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posted 04-09-2010 18:26
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Apparently the shit is going to hit the fan in about an hours time, when the early edition of the NOTW comes out.
Has anybody any idea what they've got?
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posted 04-09-2010 20:47
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According to the NOTW website, they have an interview with current squad member Yasir Hameed.
An explosive claim by a member of the Pakistan touring team that some of his team-mates ARE cheats. Opening batsman Yasir Hameed tells us bent teammates were fixing "almost every match". He said: "They've been caught. Only the ones that get caught are branded crooks.
"They were doing it (fixing) in almost every match. God knows what they were up to. Scotland Yard was after them for ages.
"It makes me angry because I'm playing my best and they are trying to lose."
It's apparently been going on for ages, but now it's been exposed he's come out. The NOTW claim they have been investigating since January, so it's possible Hameed has been in on the investigation.
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