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posted 31-07-2011 12:37
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This has to be one of the toughest categories to judge in cinema. I was watching Swarm only a couple of weeks ago, and then last weekend one of the channels was showing Jaws 3 : The Revenge . But today, Channel 5 may just have produced a winner; they're showing something called Beyond the Poseidon Adventure , where Sir Michael appears to be playing a mouthy salvage operative alongside Sally Field, whom he refers to as "Monkey" ...
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posted 31-07-2011 13:03
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So much shit to choose from but Steven Seagal's On Deadly Ground as got to be up there. Caine playing the role of diabolical oil company CEO.
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posted 31-07-2011 16:59
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The two Harry Palmer fims he made during the 1990s - Bullet To Beijing and Midnight In St Petersburg - are both pretty shonky.
Michael Caine, Roger Moore and Sean Connery all piss me off. They try to pass themselves off as these go-getting dynamos who had to leave Britain in the '70s because it was a moribund, union bound basket case, basically trying to put a philosophical veneer on their wish to avoid the top tax rates of the time.
Great, but the approach of all three to film making during this period - demand maximum wages, deliver minimum effort, disown responsibility for the finished product - exactly follows the right wing scare script about how the British workforce was supposedly taking the country down. Mono-accented chancers, the lot of them.
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posted 31-07-2011 17:30
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You could expand that argument to the Rolling Stones, among others.
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posted 31-07-2011 18:39
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I think you have to separate rubbish Michael Caine films into two groups: ones that are just crap and ones that he clearly did for the money (and were also crap).
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posted 31-07-2011 23:49
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It's tough, but apparently Caine himself believes that The Swarm was his worst film.
Stumpy Pepys wrote:
I think you have to separate rubbish Michael Caine films into two groups: ones that are just crap and ones that he clearly did for the money (and were also crap).
Caine has always been pretty honest about the fact that he was doing these films for the money. He did The Hand to put a down payment on a new garage, and this is what he said about Jaws: The Revenge:
I have never seen it [the film], but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific!
Ironically, the reshooting of the end of that film meant that Caine was not able to attend the Oscars ceremony that year to pick up his best supporting actor award for Hannah And Her Sisters.
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posted 01-08-2011 01:56
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Didn't the two Harry Palmer movies from the 90's go straight to video on release? One of them (Midnight In Saint Petersburg) was on the telly not long back, and was indeed awful.
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posted 01-08-2011 14:20
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'The Holcroft Covenant' is pretty awful too.
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posted 01-08-2011 20:13
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Reversing the usual trend, The Holcroft Covenant appears to have been made a couple of years before the better known Fourth Protocol. Michael Caine and Robert Ludlum have to be the 1980s dream team for stodgy, not-very-thrilling thrillers.
Is the success of the Bourne films generally seen as being assisted by or in spite of the source material? There didn't seem to be a following wave of Clive Cussler or Wilbur Smith adaptations, panning the aged blockbuster stream for a glint of the same gold dust.
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posted 02-08-2011 06:44
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I know that the trend in recent years has been to celebrate 'Escape To Victory', but taking a step back from the football fan inside of me and the thrill of seeing some of the game's biggest names on the screen, it's surely got to be a serious contender.
It's a shite film.
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posted 02-08-2011 07:33
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'Blame it on Rio' isn't very good.
As for 'Escape for Victory', that seems to have been resurrected more for the benefit of lad's mags and 'talking heads' nostalgia shows. It's always been a shite film.
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posted 02-08-2011 14:25
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'Bongo in the Congo'
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posted 02-08-2011 15:53
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"Water" was supposed to be really shit, wasn't it?
The problem is that so much of his worst stuff you know you is going to be absolute shit so you don't watch it.
It is probably more something to say, as Arturo and historyman does, Escape to Victory is utter shit. Indeed, it is worth being iconoclastic and looking at stuff that he is lauded for and looking really critically at it.
Having said that, "The Italian Job" is ace, I haven't seen Zulu for years but I can't imagine it disappointing upon reviewing, similar with Educating Rita. I haven't seen "The Man Who Would Be King" but I was watching the end of it recently and I have got to say, even from that snippet, I am looking forward to seeing the whole film.
I actually haven't seen The Ipcress File and Get Carter so I must do and it would be interesting seeing them objectively. The others that may not stand the test of time are stuff like "Where Eagles Dare" and "A Bridge Too Far"
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posted 02-08-2011 16:08
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He wasn't actually in Where Eagles Dare, though. Great action film, that.
He really is fantastic in Get Carter - very believable in a murderous-cold-hearted-bastard way.
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posted 02-08-2011 16:14
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Sorry, confused it with "The Eagle Has Landed"
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erwinsk
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posted 02-08-2011 16:31
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Ah, ok.
(That has Jenny Agutter in it, though, so must be good ...)
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posted 02-08-2011 17:03
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All of the shit films notwithstanding, I've always had the impression that he's a nice enough guy. Or have I missed a long history of wife-beating/child-porn collecting?
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posted 02-08-2011 17:11
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The Government has taken tax up to 50 per cent and if it goes to 51 I will be back in America. They have reached their limit with me and that's what will happen to a lot of people. You know how much they made out of that high taxation all those years ago? Nothing. But they sent a mass of incredible brains to America. We've got 3.5 million layabouts laying about on benefits, and I'm 76, getting up at 6 am to go to work to keep them. Let's get everybody back to work so we can save a couple of billion and cut tax, not keep sticking it on.
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posted 02-08-2011 17:15
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So "Old man in 'Thinks He Pays Too Much Taxes' shocker"?
Nothing really juicy then, eh?
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