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posted 11-08-2010 09:44
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Cable raised standards in America? That's not what seems to have happened here.
I didn't say that.
I meant that before cable, options were more limited and the audience was less fragmented, so most kids of a certain age anywhere in America were watching the same crap. Now, with the exception of American Idol, everyone seems to be watching different crap.
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posted 11-08-2010 14:29
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'The Outer Limits'. Now 'Twilight Zone' on the other hand is pure gold.
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posted 11-08-2010 14:34
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Tony C wrote:
I'm fairly sure I've heard the word "classic", or some variant on it, used to describe 'Red Dwarf'.
It's not a word I'd use in this context.
The first two series of Red Dwarf, whilst perhaps not "classic" were certainly pretty good, if only because the lack of budget to spend on the ropey CGI that plagued the later series forced the writers to come up with some decent situation comedy as opposed to "Monster of the Week".
I also defy anyone not to enjoy the bar fight in "Backwards" on some level even if that's where it all started going downhill.
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posted 11-08-2010 22:14
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Ah get you, Reed and Linus.
Eggchaser seems to be dangerously close to the having no money being artistically liberating argument there.
Never seen a minute of Red Dwarf, so you may be right.
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posted 05-09-2010 22:46
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The New Statesman is featured on a programme called "Comedy Classics" on ITV. The actress who played the wife, of whom I'm quite fond, has said she was glad they "went out at the top".
It was a great "bad good" programme, wasn't it? Good cast, good theme, but not very good. Bit like Budgie really.
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posted 05-09-2010 22:51
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Great theme tunes, both of those shows as well.
The New Statesman- Mussorgsky
Budgie- Ray Davies
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posted 06-09-2010 07:13
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The New Statesman is featured on a programme called "Comedy Classics" on ITV. The actress who played the wife, of whom I'm quite fond, has said she was glad they "went out at the top".
It was a great "bad good" programme, wasn't it? Good cast, good theme, but not very good. Bit like Budgie really.
It was potentially great material given a somewhat shabby treatment in that it always looked thrown together and in a hurry to be too 'crazy'. It was funny at times, no doubt about that, but it's tough to pin down a truly unforgettable comedy moment from it. It benefits from its leads - Mayall, Troughton and Fitzalan - but that's as far as it goes. A show built on one idea, a truly malevolent tosser of an MP shafting his way to the top, when it probably could have relied on much more than that.
'The Outer Limits'. Now 'Twilight Zone' on the other hand is pure gold.
Agree with you on the latter, but The Outer Limits had its merits, too. Not a total loss at all.
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posted 06-09-2010 09:32
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irishreddevil wrote:
Going by that, Doctor Who is an A1 kids TV show, but it shouldn't be pitched at adults, as that turns it into the TV equivalent of Twilight or Harry Potter
Harry Potter isn't pitched at adults. No matter how hard they might like to pretend they're not reading something written for 12-year-olds.
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posted 06-09-2010 09:37
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Given how rich the comic/graphic novel scene has been in N America, it is a shame that there isn't more fresh material and adaptation coming through in that genre
Well there's a keenly anticipated adaptation of Kirkman's The Walking Dead coming in just a month's time. More generally though, there's still an attitude that comics and animation are for kids, even with the success of the Simpsons and South Park et al. So there's a reluctance to make adult oriented comic adaptations or original animations (outside of Adult Swim).
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posted 06-09-2010 11:36
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One of the best things about The New Statesman (or some of the later episodes, at least) was spotting Graeme Harper's distinctive camera techniques and digital effects.
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posted 06-09-2010 11:38
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Ah, Marsha Fitzalan, thank you, Ian. Never knew her name before.
She's the daughter of the Duke of Norfolk.
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posted 06-09-2010 14:23
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The New Statesman quickly became shit didn't it? Or maybe I was just looking too much, in my earnest way, for a bit more corruscating anti-late-80s Tory satire. It quickly degenerated into lazy shagging and nob gags (and I'm a big fan of non-lazy and decent shagging and nob gags), in which you got that horrible sense that the show's makers basically want you to almost sympathise with Alan, as some kind of amusing and loveable rogue.
Didn't Laurence Marks (or was it the other writer?) also once write an unspeakable bad name-dropping 'every-fan' book about Arsenal?
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posted 09-09-2010 22:51
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Alan could turn on the charm, and crack a joke, but sympathise with him?
I remember thinking the first series was bad.
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