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TOPIC: How would you use a second vote?
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posted 11-03-2010 21:22

 
I was leafing through a book in a pub the other day. It was very much in the "bright young libertarian solves all the problems in the world in 5 minutes" mould.

One interesting idea it did have- not a good one, interesting one- was that you had a second vote, which you could use in any constituency. The Whizzkid Author said the point was that people who gave their constituents outrageous bits of pork could be voted out by outsiders who subsidised it.

So how would you use your second vote? I'll vote in Buckingham for the speaker against that cunt Farage.
 
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posted 11-03-2010 21:32

 
I'm not sure I understand in which constituency you'd be allowed to exercise this "second vote".

I mean wouldn't almost every Tory voter in the country just use it in Gordon Brown's, and almost every Labour voter in David Cameron's, just to knock them out of even being MPs let alone party leaders?
 
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posted 11-03-2010 21:37

 
Yeah, that's why it's a bad idea. You spotted it in two seconds when the clever author didn't spot it at all. But, for the purpose of this thread, you can vote anywhere. Even against David Cameron. But there are brownie points for not using it there.

I might use my vote in Shipley actually. A marginal with a Tory MP, Philip Davies, in the Politcal Correctness Gone Mad mode.
 
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posted 11-03-2010 21:45

 
 
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posted 11-03-2010 22:27

 
I'd use it against Esther Rantzen, or any other egotistical "celebrity" standing for parliament purely for their own self promotion, and without the slightest concern for the people they are supposed to represent.
 
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posted 11-03-2010 22:54

 
There's a very good case for people around Stevenage to be given the opportunity to consider the potential election of a third party candidate who would advocate and quickly implement the public boiling of the former MP.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 08:39

 
I'd use it positively, to try and keep in parliament decent people with vulnerable majorities- yer Katy Clarks and John McDonnells and the like.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 09:18

 
I think McDonnell might be OK.

Tony Benn would call leaving the Commons spending more time on politics. He rather overeggs this point.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 09:52

 
McDonnell's vulnerable because of the Tories' pledge to scrap the Heathrow third runway, which is presently slated to carve the shit out of his constituency
 
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posted 12-03-2010 19:22

 
The retiring MP for the next door constituency (the idiotic David Wilshire) was in favour of Heathrow expansion, I think.

It might not be a straight party issue.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 20:30

 
I'd use it to vote for someone I agree with and support. There's no chance of any such person winning a seat anywhere, so I'd have to pick the one I like the most. Karen Reissman, in Manchester Gorton, maybe.
 
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posted 12-03-2010 22:38

 
I know this isn't an answer to the question, but it was J.S. Mill wasn't it Tubby? What did you think of it?

I think I'm probably with E10 on the answer to the question posed.
 
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posted 13-03-2010 11:09

 
I don't remember the bloke's name who wrote the book. If you mean the famous old JS Mill, it wasn't him.

You might get someone you support winning a seat, TonTon. If your lot can coordinate where they use the vote without other people cottoning on to block you, why not?
 
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posted 13-03-2010 11:14

 
I'd spoil it.
 
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posted 13-03-2010 15:37

 
There's really not that many of us, Tubbs.
 
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