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posted 18-03-2010 12:22

 
No, not a discussion on the relative merits of this particular tactic (although, don't let me stop you) but rather a prop for this great website devoted to tactical discussion and analysis.

Oh, and this -

 
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posted 18-03-2010 15:22

 
That site is outstanding. Thanks for mentioning it.
 
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posted 19-03-2010 10:53

 
Good grief, there goes my weekend.

By the way, a month or two ago, I was asking as to whether anyone had stats as to the optimum passing distance. As people mentioned at the tiome, the shorter the better would seem logical for accuracy but I wanted a distance that would also aid getting the ball around the pitch, exploit space and aid player movement off the ball.

Now this isn't at all scientific but, from paying attention specifically to this in the meantime and checking the Guardian chalk boards, the optimum distance appears to be roughly equal to the diameter of the centre circle (about 10 yards). Obviously, I am going to search through this new site but does anyone want to refute that distance?

By the way, Barca appear to be the exception to the rule in that every length pass of theirs appears to mostly successful

Oh, and I have never seen a zone score a goal (I have a worrying feeling that it was the cunt Redknapp that said that)
 
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posted 19-03-2010 12:36

 
Bored of Education wrote:
...the optimum distance appears to be roughly equal to the diameter of the centre circle (about 10 yards)...

Shouldn't that be the radius of the centre circle?

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posted 19-03-2010 12:39

 
No, the diameter
 
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posted 19-03-2010 12:41

 
But the diameter is 20m
 
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posted 19-03-2010 13:31

 
My apologies, Ricky and Nurse, I see what you mean, I thought ND was correcting my terminology not the distance. I picked a mistaken measurement from somewhere.

Yes, 20 yards then, which sounds like a lot but if you watch, the amount of accurate passes that are around the length of the diameter of the centre circle is striking.

I would have certainly thought that somewhere between 12 (penalty spot to goal-line) and 20 is optimum. Any smaller and you just aren;t going to move the ball around quick enough and you are going to be closed down quicker and any more and the passes with be less accurate.

I have transferred this onto a youth pitch (with an appropriate reduction due to pitch size to around 10-15ft) and based all my drill around this length of pass and it seems to transfer well into games
 
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posted 19-03-2010 19:45

 
The beautiful among successful teams have always been the ones who pass the ball really intricately - Liverpool, circa 1988, Man U, in the Cantona period, Brazil, circa 1970, Denmark, in the mid-80s - but that's just our love of intricacy in all things. The filigree ring to be studied and admired, as opposed to the "Wow, fuck-off big diamond!" that is the inescapable gasp brought on by the 30-yard pass brought down and stuck into the net in one movement by Denis Bergkamp.

Either are more pretty than the simply vulgar 9-carat bog chain necklace with a car symbol on the end bling of the long pass (or throw) up to the big lone striker causing mayhem, but for all that no less shiny nor indeed anything you'd take the piss out of in a pub car park.
 
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