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            <title>Backbencher says nothing, makes headlines - by: Garamczy Antal</title>
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            <description> Tubby Isaacs wrote: 
 
Hopefully the next generation's politics will be more equitable. But it would still be paying previous generations' debts. And it would make progressive politics much harder, with all that debt interest to pay.
 

Exactly.</description>
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            <title>Tune of the day - by: El Tel</title>
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            <description> stonelephant wrote: 
  El Tel wrote: 
 Madness - the Prince http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfTkQ8CoxU 

That's funny Tel, along with Squeeze, I was listening to  Complete Madness . Great stuff - the two were contemporaries and both managed to exist through the New Wave and New Romantic periods with wit, good songs and talent.

A bit Antipodean this evening:

Crowded House  Four Seasons in One Day  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ38HfsrFOw&amp;feature=fvst)

Augie March  Just Passing Through  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpKWEjPw7n4) 

Thanks for putting that Crowded House number up, forgot all about that particular tune.</description>
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            <title>Capello resigns - by: El Tel</title>
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            <description>&quot;The order which comes from Franco&quot;.

 - Must be an Italian thing, DiCanio is of course a Mussolini fanboy.</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Basketball Reasons: NBA 2012 (&amp; a little of 2011) - by: El Tel</title>
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            <description> Incandenza wrote: 
 There are lots of possibilities, ET. A difference in talent from those teams to now. Some poor recruiting and player management decisions--those 2006-2008 UCLA teams had some players that would give everything for the team, the guys we've had lately just don't seem to be at that level, plus Ben Howland and some of the players since then have had several well-publicized fallings-out ...Reeves Nelson this season, there have been some other disgruntled players that left after disagreements with Howland, or from not getting playing time (Mike Moser and Chace Stanback, two of the leaders of #14 UNLV? Both left UCLA). Not sure how much of that is on Howland, or how much is from entitled players. Probably a mixture of both...but even then, you need to find the kids that are going to buy into your system. Howland hasn't seem to be able to do that much lately. A lot of people point to the departure of assistant coach Kerry Keating to take the Santa Clara job a few years back. Keating was UCLA's top recruiter, and he found Russell Westbrook when no other top programs had him on their radar. 

There have long been grumblings about Howland's style--high emphasis on defense, particularly man defense. This year he finally caved and started playing zone when it was obvious that this year's team simply wasn't quick enough on defense to handle man-to-man. There were times in the past that he should have done this, but didn't. When you're winning, style points don't really mean a whole lot, but when you're losing the rumblings grow louder. 

Since losing to Memphis (who later had their victories that year forfeited) in the Final Four in 2008, here is UCLA's record: 26-9 (loss in second round of NCAA), 14-18, 23-11 (loss in second round of NCAA). Right now we're 13-10 and 7th in the Pac-12. The conference is so weak this year that it's likely that only the conference champion will make the tournament. 

As the three Final Four years increasingly fade into the past, a lot of fans think that a new coach needs to be brought in. 

Thanks for the comprehensive answer Inca.  I didnt realize Pac12 b/ball had fallen so far so fast when I read you saying that the conference might only get one tournament berth.  Wow.  

I hope you caught the Duke-Carolina game, incredible ending I won't spoil it incase you have it recorded.  

Oh yeah and for the record Memphis are joining the Big East, thats a good addition for the conference in light of the defections of Cuse and Pitt to the ACC.</description>
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            <title>Fanny, be tender with my love - by: MsD</title>
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            <description>Was this the first draft of the track that later became Love, Be Tender with my Fanny, the B-side of A Woman in Love?</description>
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            <title>Lana Del Rey -- Born To Die - by: MsD</title>
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            <description>The songs I've heard have had the same effect on me as a few other artists: Norah Jones, most Morcheeba ...soporific to the point of inducing narcolepsy in seconds, in an unpleasant way, the body and brain switching off in a cold clinic, rather than sweetly drifting off to dreamy boingy bunnyland on a lovely soft pillow.  I like some chillout, I like girly-dreamy, like the Cocteau Twins/TMC, Lush, but this music seems to have no ... spirit to it.  I don't know, I'm on about the sound, not her image or whatever concept this is supposed to be.  It's like a fridge whirring and I get a moment of panic that it might never stop.</description>
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            <title>How bad did people smell back in the days? - by: Chinglish Teacher</title>
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            <description> NickSTFU wrote: 
  ad hoc wrote: 
 Isn't there something about how (at least for a longish period) the nobility refused to use water for washing because they believed it carried disease or something, and they would make do with one bath a year.  And in fact at that time their servants would have been far cleaner. 

Yep, bathing was considered unhealthy in all sections of society for a very long while. I first became interested in this after reading “Shogun” by James Clavell. A recurring theme in the book is how manky the Western European characters are compared to the Japanese. 

My mum used to say &amp;#33261;&amp;#32769;&amp;#22806; “stinky laowai&quot; as a way to refer to my Caucasian friends that came over. I'm not trying to be offensive but she just noticed the BO and always commented on it.

It wasn't until I came to China, that I noticed the Mainlanders have worse hygiene. Most of the population from rural areas rarely wash in order to save water. It's quite a stench, especially when they open their mouths.</description>
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            <title>The OTF prediction competition - by: Chinglish Teacher</title>
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            <description>Man Utd 4-2 Liverpool
Blackburn 0-1 QPR
Bolton 1-0 Wigan
Everton 0-1 Chelsea
Fulham 2-1 Stoke
Sunderland 1-0 Arsenal
Swansea 1-1 Norwich
Tottenham 2-1 Newcastle
Leeds United 0-2 Brighton
Celtic 4-0 Inverness CT

Scholes</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Mad instruments - by: evilC</title>
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            <description>This (http://www.retrothing.com/2009/03/casio-keyboardtape-copiershortwave-radio.html) has just about blown my mind!

I didn't know such an instrument existed ...or could exist!</description>
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            <title>The worse thing than fucking up an interview ... - by: willie1foot</title>
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            <description>Yeah, well done Rogin. Hope the new job works out.</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Dateline: Jury pre-selection Rm 167. - by: Worn Old Motorbike</title>
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            <description>So, Tuesday was fairly interesting. Harassment &amp; Assault with A Deadly Weapon case. Didn't get picked for it. A lot of sitting around though. Then being grouped and moved about. And then sitting around some more.

Dismissed at 3:45.

Today, we checked in at 9:30, sat around reading and chatting until 10:30 and then were dismissed for the remainder of the week.

So, I'm done. C'est tout. That's my brush with the good side of the Ontario justice system over and done with. For a minimum of three years. In the words of our host &quot;Now that we know who you are...heh heh...we'll be seeing you again.&quot;</description>
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            <title>Good horse. Go on. - by: De Geas Slippery Fingers</title>
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            <description> ian.64 wrote: 
 I'd like to sit through a Spielberg film if it wasn't for the irrational hatred I'm beginning to nurture for the music of John Williams. Every note I hear now seems to scream out for an Oscar nomination (he's actually garnered two - for War Horse and Tintin. Didn't anybody else write a film score this year?) so steeped in self-congratulatory Classic FM-type importance it seems to be. You can almost hear the request from Glenda from Southampton who wants to hear 'Carefree Horsey Thing Running About A Field' from War Horse as she takes her kids to school.

And I'm a big fan of orchestral film scores. 

I miss Jerry Goldsmith.

That guy could do it all.</description>
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            <title>My first Mixcloud mix - by: linus</title>
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            <description>Sounds good wingco...

fixed link. (http://www.mixcloud.com/david-stubbs/)</description>
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            <title>part-time harry? - by: garcia</title>
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            <description>everyone is agreed harry redknapp must be the new england manager. but when? spurs' football, redknapp's symphony, is the people's only joy. the FA must know it would seem a needless slight to one of england's great clubs to snatch away their helmsman before his country really needed him, after the end of the club season. and harry's honour surely would not allow him to abandon his loyal players and loving chairman at such a delicate stage of their campaign. 

surely they will let harry continue until the end of the season with spurs, assuming the england job in some part-time capacity until may, when he can take over full-time. 

but what if spurs' results then fall off a cliff and they finish outside the top four. harry could be damaged goods by the time he takes over. people will be sniggering about the mass hysteria of today as another diana moment. it's not as though he is universally popular or respected even now. his england career could be undermined from the start.

so do they have to hire him now, on the basis that the call of england takes precedence over anything he could be doing at spurs?</description>
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            <title>The Descendants - by: Outside Agent</title>
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            <description>I saw this on Sunday. A decent movie, but a couple of things seemed pointless. 

Firstly, the eldest daughter was introduced to us as a supposedly out-of-control juvenile who has been essentially locked-up in a detention centre of some sort. From that point on, the worst you could say about her was that she could be a stroppy teenager. And this was no character change as the enormity of the family's situation was revealed to her - as soon as she was home and informed her father of her mother's infidelity, it was a different person. So what was the point of initially portraying the eldest daughter in that manner?

And what was the point of her boyfriend? His initial dopeyness suggested he'd be the light relief, complementing the tragedy that the family were about to face, but that's not how it panned out (save for one funny conversation in the car with Clooney about 'retards'). Given that he was a stranger to the father, the inappropriateness of his permanent presence among the family was odd in how the father just accepted it.

And is it a feature of this director to have the lead appear in every scene of the movie? Because Clooney certainly did here.

 Spoiler Alert : 
Great scene at the end when the obnoxious father-in-law arrives at the hospital and proceeds to tell Clooney that his &quot;faithful&quot; daughter deserved better. Clooney chooses to bite his tongue, showing his love for his wife. And we see this in the genuinely moving final kiss goodbye. So, a great close to the movie.</description>
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            <title>is there a falkland islands accent? - by: Seven Saxon Kings</title>
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            <description> What accent to Gibraltans have? It's proper Spanish, isn't it?

I can hardly think of two places I less want to go to that aren't on the Amnesty International Human Rights offenders list 

I was at uni with two lads from Gibraltar. They basically spoke Spanglish, constantly switching between one and the other, even mid-sentence. Obviously they were fluent in both English and Spanish though. Like most Gibraltarians, they felt very strongly about wanting to be part of the UK and hating the Spanish government, although supported Barcelona and in many ways seemed culturally closer to Spain than England. To confuse things further, in international football, one supported Argentina and the other Italy. It's an eclectic place.</description>
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            <title>Tragic miltary disaster league names - by: Graham Arnolds Brown Suit</title>
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            <description>Fairly obviously, &quot;The Gallipoli League&quot; in Australia.</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>rosie - by: HORN</title>
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            <description>Rosie, of course, becomes the patsy (http:/ ewsthump.com/2012/02/08/redknapps-dog-gets-five-years/)</description>
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            <title>Friday Cryptic Crossword Game - by: Andy C</title>
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            <description>Happy to take option of toploading tumbler (4)</description>
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            <title>Patrick Barclay - by: satchmo76</title>
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            <description>17/4/09:

&quot;The club may have its critics, but there is much to admire in what is being achieved by Pete Winkelman at Milton Keynes&quot;

http://www.whocomments.org/wiki/Patrick_Barclay</description>
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            <title>Music Magazines - by: Pietro Paolo Virdis</title>
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            <description>What's the WSC of music?

What's the greatest or cult music magazine cover?

Best piece ever read in a music magazine?

Worst?</description>
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            <title>Dental query - by: RobM</title>
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            <description>I went into shock after root canal work once, couldn't recommend it.</description>
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            <title>The O'Neill Revolution - by: pebblethefish</title>
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            <description> NHH wrote: 
  and he hit the inability to really push past the 6th/7th spot.  

But who has, without a squad-changing cash injection, in the last 20 years?  Redknapp seems to be the only possible answer, and there enough threads about him already, surely?</description>
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            <title>Hatchet Job Awards - by: RobM</title>
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            <description> Gangster Octopus wrote: 
 Yay, someone finally (seventeen years ago) zaps Zappa.  It's hard to explain how much I hate his  music . 

Count me in GO, self-absorbed, masturbatory shite is what it is.</description>
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            <title>Portuguese Liga e tal, 2011/12 - by: erwin</title>
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            <description>Sporting beat Nacional 3-1 in Madeira (5-3 on aggregate) to go through to the Final of the Portuguese Cup. A dubious second yellow for Nacional's Rondon early in the second half, and a dubious penalty for 2-1, helped a lot. Good solo effort by full back João Pereira for Sporting's third. 

In the Final they meet Académica, who knocked out second-tier side Oliveirense. It's Académica's first Final in 49 years.

Should be a good one - both have good followings, and it won't be as one-sided as some recent Finals.</description>
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            <title>40 years 40 albums - by: Last Years Man</title>
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            <description>1970 All Things Must Pass- George Harrison
1971 Four Symbols-Led Zeppelin
1972 Exile On Main Street- Rolling stones
1973 Innervisions-Stevie Wonder
1974 No Other-Gene Clark
1975 Blood On the Tracks-Bob Dylan
1976 Johnny The Fox-Thin Lizzy
1977 Never Mind The Bollocks-Sex Pistols
1978 If You Want Blood You Got It-AC/DC
1979 Strangers In the Night-UFO
1980 Get Happy-Elvis Costello &amp; The Attractions
1981 No Sleep Til Hammersmith-Mötorhead
1982 Shoot Out The Lights-Richard &amp; Linda Thompson
1983 Murmur-R.E.M
1984 Born In The USA-Bruce Springsteen
1985 Psychocandy-Jesus &amp; The Mary Chain
1986 Master Of Puppets-Metallica
1987 The Joshua Tree-U2
1988 I'm Your Man-Leonard Cohen
1989 The Real Thing-Faith No More 
1990 The La's-The La's
1991 Never Mind-Nirvana
1992 Automatic For The People-R.E.M
1993 Vs-Pearl Jam
1994 Definiely Maybe-Oasis
1995 The Bends-Radiohead
1996 Odelay-Beck
1997 Time Out Of Mind-Bob Dylan
1998 White Ladder-David Gray
1999 Play-Moby
2000 Heartbreaker-Ryan Adams
2001 White Blood Cells-White Stripes
2002 Songs For the Deaf-Queens Of The Stone Age
2003 Want One-Rufus Wainwright
2004 American Idiot-Green Day
2005 Tower Of Love-Jim Noir
2006 Black Holes &amp; Revelations-Muse
2007 Live At Massey Hall-Neil Young
2008 Fleet Foxes-Fleet Foxes
2009 Only Revelations-Biffy Clyro
2010 Brothers-Black Keys
2011 Stone Rollin'-Raphael Saddiq

I was starting to struggle in the last few years. I'm not yet convinced with 2004,2009 and 2011. 2007 is of course a live recording of a concert from 1971.

Conversely, the early 70's proved difficult for the opposite reason. I had 6 to pick from in 1970 for example.

Going back a wee bit further:

1965 Rubber Soul-The Beatles
1966 Blonde on Blonde-Bob Dylan
1967 The Velvet Underground &amp; Nico-The Velvet Underground
1968 The Songs Of Leonard Cohen-Leonard Cohen
1969 Tommy-The Who</description>
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            <title>Johnny Cash - by: Why at Last!</title>
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            <description> Stumpy Pepys wrote: 
 I'm a fan too, but there's a kind of selective memory regarding Johnny Cash, where his career goes from Sun Records to around the time of San Quentin, then jumps to the Rick Rubin stuff.

People tend not to mention the stuff inbetween, such as all his Christian LPs. 

See, you've said this before, and I think it's baloney. The period you're talking about includes his famous prison gigs, plus really great songs like Ira Hayes and Man In Black, not to mention really likeable tongue-in-cheek numbers like A Boy Named Sue and One Piece At A Time. And yeah, some of his Christian stuff is pretty good: Why Me Lord?, for example. (I've even got a soft spot for Daddy Sang Bass, cornball though it is.)</description>
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            <title>Weather - by: Moonlight shadow</title>
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            <description>I really, really must invite myself at Andy's...His neck of the woods sounds like my kind of place!</description>
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            <title>Frank O'Farrell: In The Shadow Of Busby - by: Sundeporino</title>
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            <description> historyman wrote: 
  

 Well most clubs likely were doing this,  but I'm pretty sure that United under Busby weren't, and 100% sure that Frank O'Farrell simply couldn't have operated such an arrangement. 

In the late 50s when Sunderland were discovered to be doing this the FL wanted to demote em to the 4th division, ban for life the guilty players and ban for life the Chairman &amp; Directors.
Jimmy Hill took the opportunity to boost his candidacy for PFA Chairmanship. He travelled to  all 92 league clubs  obtaining signed statements from previous and current players that theyd been paid &quot;under the counter&quot;. 
Alan Hardaker relented and only the Chairman &amp; Directors were banned for life. This being the decision of a FL Committee composed of........FL Club Directors!

We were relegated shortly after and have been shite ever since.</description>
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            <description>Arsenal fans get the vapours, as Gervinho gives Ivory Coast the lead.</description>
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            <description>Or only drinking pour-over coffee.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description>he is on twitter @luis16suarez</description>
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            <description> Mat wrote: 
 Sign the e-petition to stop the bill here (https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22670) 

I think a thousand or so have signed in the last hour. Good sign.

Isn't the purpose of them to secure a debate in the Commons? Still, good bit of graffito.</description>
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            <description>Reed qualifies for Wales through the controversial Bandmate Ruling via John Cale.</description>
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            <description> VTTBoscombe wrote: 
  Andy Schleck would probably have won the 2010 Tour anyway if Contador hadn't attacked when AS's chain fell off in the Pyrenees, so in a roundabout way we've ended up with the right winner. 
 
Or Contador knew how to change his gears correctly and Schleck didn't - sorry that wasn't a true mech failure or puncture - that was Andy screwing up. 

 Felicity, I guess so wrote: 
 Agreed, longeared's comment riled me, but VTT puts things right. 

   I love you guys sometimes. A bastion of truth in the cycling interverse.</description>
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            <title>That's a cross-sport combo I've not seen before - by: Gangster Octopus</title>
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            <description>One time Miller Curtis Woodhouse is still trying to make a living as a boxer.</description>
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            <title>It shouldn't be allowed - by: Amor de Cosmos</title>
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            <description> Were you clothed? 

Heh!

 Teaching's one of the rare professions where there are enough women in senior positions to counter some of the (often sub-conscious) male cultural biases — though this may be, as in your example, with biases of their own. 

What really wounds is the cumulative effect of incidents that link your shortcoming (literally in my example!)with inferiority and powerlessness.  

I agree totally. In both these incidents I think we were being asked to behave in a way that disempowers our effectiveness as teachers (and in your case as a person.) IMO the most important characteristics a teacher can bring to the classroom (aside from knowledge of their field) are passion for their subject and enthusiasm in presenting it. If you have to totter around in high-heels or other restraining clothes, and I have to stop waving my arms about, and otherwise &quot;over-project,&quot; then I don't think either of us are at our best.

 You should have said &quot;I bet you know all about harnesses, love!&quot; and given her a saucy nudge. She'd have loved that, Ted. 

Yeah, that would have gone down really well.

TBH I could see she was genuinely anxious ervous, but I was also insecure due to lack of classroom experience. At the time I wasn't sure which one of us to trust.</description>
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            <title>Fuck off, Michael Gove - by: Gangster Octopus</title>
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            <description> E10 Rifle wrote: 
 Where's the all-purpose Lansley-bashing thread. 
Try this one (http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,512890/).  It appears to have been started for this very purpose.</description>
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            <title>The Division 4 Thread, 2011-12 - by: The Purple Cow</title>
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            <description>Yeah Mitch, it will be made official shortly, but Alex have been informed, my brother was peripherally involved as you know.

The great sticking point was that the academy employs too few people to qualify for Category B.  I think you have to employ more than 12 F.T.E.'s, and Alex can't afford that.</description>
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            <title>Scottish Football 2011-2012 Season - by: Erskine Bridges</title>
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            <description>To be fair Afrikaams, your comments and analysis always strike me as measured and intelligent but that is rare in an old firm fan. Well in any fan but you ken.

But I don't think Rangers (mgt &amp; most fans)have grasped the new reality that the money aint coming back although how a club with a worldwide fan base and 48,000 per home game can't turn a profit is beyond me. If those crowds fall the way or anywhere close to the way they did when Aberdeen and the Arabs were winning then there really will be problems.</description>
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            <title>The Golden Age of US Cop Shows - by: Felicity, I guess so</title>
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            <description>I have a huge nostalgia for 'Kojak'. At the time it seemed so gritty and realistic (and downbeat, noirish etc) compared to other cop shows. Massive saturday night treat, when I were a lad. The credits alone were exciting.

With hindsight it maybe took the aesthetics of blaxploitation cinema and shoehorned them into an 'ethnic' cop show.

I ought to get one of my serial-downloader friends to get me some Kojak action....unless anyone knows of a tv station that reruns them (I don't see why not when you look at some of the 'Gold' on the far end of the Sky listings)</description>
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            <title>Have we done the Republican presidential debates? - by: Incandenza</title>
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            <description>I forgot to mention this earlier, but Dan Savage (who solicited the new meaning of santorum) pointed out that Santorum started a fundraising effort called Conservatives Unite Moneybomb. 

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xEhx4-3GT_M/TxdzZRA0DCI/AAAAAAAAAME/h5XUDPaEUbw/SC-MoneyBomb.jpg

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            <title>My shrinking list - by: Felicity, I guess so</title>
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            <description> My list consists exclusively of ITV Granada and BBC North West weather presenters. Because, let's face it, what other celebs am I likely to meet?
 

We have got to know a local weather presenter up here, firstly on an NUJ picket line, then when she came into a Persian restaurant we frequent.

Any idea of her being on a list (and she is both glamourous AND a TU rep/mother of chapel) was nixed, though, because it really is true what they say about tv putting pounds (of weight) on people, as she is far too skinny 'in real life' for my liking.</description>
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            <title>NHL For Idiots - by: Amor de Cosmos</title>
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            <description>I wonder how many feelers Trotz has had? Quite a few you'd imagine. He must like — or need — the anonymity of Nashville, of being able to manage his own expectations rather than those of others. On the broadcast yesterday it was mentioned that, despite them having to best run in the NHL, there wasn't a single story on the Preds in the Nashville papers. It was all about the Superbowl and the Titan's backup QB.</description>
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            <description>it wasn't used in public though. it was in a private message, which ultimately is only as private as the person who has been needling you wants it to be.</description>
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            <description> Zuma Kahuna wrote: 
 Not really a psycho, just an unbelievably stupid  dickhead  (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs fl-shutdown-corner/knowshon-moreno-charged-dui-while-license-plate-reads-193939702.html)

And why with NFL wages can he not afford car insurance? 

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            <title>I'm a bit excited - by: Gangster Octopus</title>
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            <description>Another update (http://www.rotherhamunited-mad.co.uk/roll/edb4 ys__ellrod_site_services_7th_feb_727228/index.shtml).</description>
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            <description>andy carrot.</description>
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            <description>&quot;We need to do an upward cascade of that&quot;.  Erm, no, we definitely do not.</description>
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            <description>Never a dull moment with this fella, is there? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/08/west-ham-ravel-morrison-homophobic-twitter)</description>
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            <description>Bored, willie1foot and steveeeeeeeee are absolutely right.

Ex-Fräulein treibeis ignored a mole for far too long (&quot;No, all right, it's bigger than it used to be, but it hasn't grown for months now&quot;) and ended up with skin cancer. I think it's all all right now, but I don't know for certain.

And even if it is all all right, the endless visits to clinics and hospitals to have bits of her body chopped off weren't exactly the best weeks and months of her life.</description>
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            <title>King Creosote/John Hopkins tour - by: Slightly Brown</title>
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            <description>/Pedantry/

It's Jon Hopkins, I think. No matter, I agree that the album is brilliant. They were playing it in HMV at lunchtime a few weeks ago, which created a slightly surreal atmosphere against all the stuffed Angry Birds and  Columbo  boxsets.</description>
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            <description>I don't think they really need to spend to have succes in Europe. A lot of the young players has not only been there for a while but they've seen their careers flourish in Dortmund. So they should feel comfortable in the club and not be willing to risk a couple of years on the bench in a foreign club. German players aren't that keen to move to another country. For them Bayern Münich is good enough. But with Borussia Dortmund becoming succesfull club again they probably wont feel a need to leave the club to play at the highest level. Götze might be the exception of course, but if he leaves it will probably be because of the high offer Dortmund will revice, not that he will force the transfer. 

And we shouldn't forget that Dortmunds success in the last years comes from a very good scouting system, not from spending big money. I don't think they will leave that way just because of a couple of good years.</description>
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            <title>On The Buses and other ITV Sitcoms - by: Mat</title>
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            <description>I managed about ten minutes of that from the clip on Youtube.

It was godawful and I really don't want to watch any more.</description>
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            <description>The bloke who now comments on Romania in your own esteemed organ, by the way, E10, is pretty spot on, as far as I can tell.  I've yet to read anything he's written which I haven't agreed with 100%.  Here's his take on the above:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/07/romanians-ejected-prime-minister-emil-boc?CMP=twt_gu</description>
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            <description> ursus arctos wrote: 
 That's Jim Turner.

He was Nijinsky compared to Lou Groza.
 
... and to Lou Michaels.

It's great watching film of those guys attempting place-kicks. They put their foot into the ball as if they hated it. Contemporary kickers just swing their leg like it's a pitching wedge.</description>
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            <title>Youtube Thread #207 - by: historyman</title>
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            <description> The Exploding Vole wrote: 
 

How do you people find all this stuff?  

By letting other people do the spade work!

In this instance, the site which details the history of British football coverage on TV has a montly update section where any new postings of note on youtube are listed.

Superb site, but leave your anorak at the door.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carousel/ITVfootball68-83.html (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carousel/ITVfootball68-83.html)</description>
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            <title>The WTF? Thread - by: The Exploding Vole</title>
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            <description>Ah, the old &quot;We enjoy the most what we're good at&quot; ruse.

I was a really good boy, back in the day, and I can tell you that has done me absolutely no fucking favours in the world of employment.</description>
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            <description>They've also got a sister site (http://leasthelpful.com/), which looks very promising. Although they seem to have taken what is currently the second review on the homepage (the Amazon review of 'Harold And The Purple Crayon) rather more seriously than it was intended.</description>
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            <title>Going All The Way With SAW - by: historyman</title>
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            <description>At last - the official England song for Euro '88 has surfaced on You Tube.  I've read about it a few times but never actually heard it before.

And it's just as shite as its reputation suggests, being produced by Stock, Aitken and Waterman after all. It reached the giddy heights of number 64 in the singles chart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW6UFwiM4dA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW6UFwiM4dA)

Some nice cardigans and taches in that video. Of course England's subsequent disaster at the tournament adds to the irony of the whole performance.</description>
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            <title>Alternative / complementary currencies - by: Rufus T. Firefly</title>
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            <description>My mom used to collect S &amp; H Green Stamps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26H_Green_Stamps) when I was a kid.  I got my first ever baseball glove with Green Stamps she redeemed.</description>
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            <title>Have we done &quot;Pointless&quot;? - by: Fussbudget</title>
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            <description>Wikipedia and my TV guide both claim that series 6 starts this Monday though so that's not long to wait.

I was pretty amused by the guy on today's show who thought  The Joker  was by Madness,  clearly somebody with a very solid grasp of what Madness sound likI was pretty amused by the guy on today's show who thought The Joker was by Madness, clearly somebody with a very solid grasp of what Madness sound like.e.</description>
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            <title>If Scotland gets independence ... - by: alyxandr</title>
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            <description>When Macbeth Met Hamlet: a Scandinavian Scotland? (http://bigthink.com/ideas/42355?page=all)</description>
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            <title>Archer - by: Amor de Cosmos</title>
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            <description> benjm wrote: 
 I thought this was going to be a Ross MacDonald thread. 

 

Me too, but I figured it was just an age thing as usual.</description>
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            <title>Potential Reading - Books worst thread - by: Lucia Lanigan</title>
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            <description>Haha, no but this is a good idea for a thread. 

I'd just get something like Duncan Wu's  Romanticism  anthology, cause it's the works themselves with footnotes rather than some guy going on about the works in an ostensibly short book that means nothing if you don't have them to hand to read them. 

Although I suppose you do have them to hand, what with old thing being free on the internet and so on.</description>
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            <title>First Tango In Hamburg - by: Zuma Kahuna</title>
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            <description>Nothing excuses bad manners. Sadly there's always a few dickheads on the dance floor who think they're god's gift and don't give a fuck about anyone else. Frankly, I'm appalled the teacher lets them get away with it. Try that behavior at a crowded milonga in Buenos Aires and they'd be lucky to live to tell about it.</description>
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            <title>FAO Brighton/S.E. OTFrs?. (36 Rothmans....) - by: Sundeporino</title>
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            <description>...Yearbooks up for grabs in the Brighton area. On a well known internet auction site for 99p at the moment. 1971-2007. Their not mine admin by the way.

Id bid and drive down to pick em up myself if I was'nt going up for the Arsenal game this weekend.</description>
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            <title>LP's with side-long tracks - by: steveeeeeeeee</title>
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            <description> E10 Rifle wrote: 
 This thread title's unnecessary apostrophe is really bugging me. 

Not half as much as your post bugs me.</description>
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            <title>Kenny Burns was a golden god - by: willie1foot</title>
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            <description> ad hoc wrote: 
 the game when you drop pennies on to a flat surface in such a way as you hope they knock each other off and cause a cascade of small change. 

Penny Falls</description>
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            <title>The Excitement of the Superdraft - 2012 MLS Thread - by: Incandenza</title>
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            <description>In a surprise move, the Galaxy are getting Juninho back on loan from Sao Paulo for this season. They have also signed Sao Paulo defender Leonardo, who had been on loan with the team, on a free.</description>
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            <title>The &quot;Hey, I have a new WSC&quot; thread.Howard webb.... - by: E10 Rifle</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,624006/#624417</link>
            <description>Loved the piece by the Cambridge United stats nerd. This has given me something to mull over next time I can't get to sleep.</description>
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            <title>Which manager/coach do you most like seeing lose? - by: Analogue Bubblebath II</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,31/id,623955/#624407</link>
            <description>Mourinho.

In rugby, Bernard Laporte. Most GAA managers are too boring and too deliberately modest to be worth hating.</description>
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            <title>Is there a Black Swan thread? - by: Mat</title>
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            <description> ursus arctos wrote: 
 He uses the image a lot in his Cassandra act. 

To be fair to her though, Cassandra was actually right.</description>
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            <title>k-punk - by: Mat</title>
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            <description>Good stuff that, Lucia.</description>
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            <title>Michel Teló - by: steveeeeeeeee</title>
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            <description>The biggest summer hit in Brazil for years, &quot;Ai se eu te pego&quot; translates literally as &quot;If you're there I'll get you&quot; but really means, &quot;If you're there I'm going to f*ck your brains out.&quot;

As with any Brazilian hit, it has a dance to go with it, and what a dance! Check out the girls in the crowd who make it very clear what &quot;pego&quot; can mean in the right context:

http://youtu.be/hcm55lU9knw

Be prepared to hear this a lot on your Mediterranean holiday this summer, accompanied by teenage girls performing extremely suggestive dance moves. No doubt cantagalo can give us more details...</description>
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            <title>Songs Associated With Movies - by: erwin</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,30/id,623357/limit,20/limitstart,20/#624317</link>
            <description>The 'Banana Splits' song in  Kick Ass  (good use).</description>
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            <title>&quot;My, how you've grown&quot; - managers as players - by: Nocturnal Submission</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,621512/limit,20/limitstart,80/#624292</link>
            <description>Barely believably, Rafa Benitez:




http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&amp;blobheadername1=Content-disposition&amp;blobheadervalue1=attachment%3B+filename%3DRafa_Ben%C3%ADtez.jpg&amp;blobkey=id&amp;blobtable=MungoBlobs&amp;blobwhere=1202873050823&amp;ssbinary=true


A bit like Suarez, no?</description>
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            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,623615/#624259</link>
            <description>Maybe Robinho can score now

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/396530_317335644979259_235696259809865_904387_1547859541_n.jpg</description>
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            <title>Nostalgia - by: Stumpy Pepys</title>
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            <description>I had one of these:

http://www.uknet.net/showcase/Museum/097_CGL_Galaxy_Invader.jpg</description>
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            <title>Democratic dictatorships - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
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            <description>Fianna fail were in power between 1932 and 1948. 1951-1954, 1957-1973, 1977-81, 1987-1993, 1997-2011. That's 60 years out of the last 80. 

The Stormont parliament between 1921 and 1973 was definitely a 'democratic dictatorship' in a very real sense.</description>
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            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,29/id,623571/#624196</link>
            <description>Glenn Tilbrook</description>
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            <title>Fuck you Ian Paisley. Don't Dawdle! - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,624182/#624182</link>
            <description>it seems that not all form of cancer are immortal

http://www.indymedia.ie/cache/imagecache/local/attachments/jan2007/460_0___30_0_0_0_0_0_paisley1969.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF50SMLOER38N-Uxrvjemn4sKjfhEVLv6VagNFuB3sYZ6uxDVKBw


If Ian was right about the whole god and afterlife thing, may he burn brightly in the hell that he so raucously ranted about. The likely absence of an afterlife is likely to come as a bit of a shock

this is my favourite pic

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQmKCU7w0XH4akRleeRiF7ATjGmJLdZa-ACUsO7TVS9k6oN9dXYA

&quot;It many have taken 39 years and cost thousands of lives, but finally we've got what we want.&quot;</description>
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            <title>OK Go sell out to Chevrolet.... - by: jasoñ voorhees</title>
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            <description>True, but they've carried the pretense that there was more to them than the videos, interviewed promoting their albums, and it was with the rise of YouTube - but before it was as important as it is now. After the Rube Goldberg video, however, they will never be allowed anywhere without a video again.</description>
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            <title>Fútbol Español 2011-12 - by: Lodzubelieveit</title>
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            <description>Michel it is, until the end of the season with the option of renewing if SFC get into the Champions League. Let's see how it goes.</description>
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            <title>The Silly Skin I Live In - by: dalliance</title>
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            <description>So we watched Pedro Almodovar's latest opus at the weekend, I couldn't find a previous thread on it.

I can't say I have seen one of his films in ages if truth be told, you would probably have to go back to High Heels which must be two decades ago now. His films were always an interesting watch, full of neurotic but beautiful Spanish women who don't look Spanish, like Victoria Abril, crazy, crazy plots and a whole sensationalist and overwrought feel about them. Wacky and silly, but good fun with plenty of gratuitous nudity.

The Skin I Live In is a bit different, thematically at least. It's certainly not a comedy for a start, It has elements of body horror and extreme physical transformation that reminded me (badly) of The Human Centipede and (better) of Dead Ringers. I hesitate to say with any certainty that it's actually a horror film, there is just so much silliness going on that it comes across more like an extremely bad Latin soap opera plot. 

Let me tell you just how silly.

****** SPOILERS *********

* Antonio Banderas plays a mad and hugely unethical surgeon who ends up having sex with the man who he believed had raped his mentally disturbed daughter. 

* Now that's silly, but there's more. The Banderas character is not gay, he kidnapped him out of revenge and  forcibly performed a complete sex change on the boy in question. So he's a girl rapist who is raped by his sex-change surgeon!

* This boy, after his extreme and lengthy sex change, just happens to look exactly like the surgeon's dead ex wife.

* ...and he has great tits! 

* The surgeon has a criminal brother who turns up and spends his entire 20 minute cameo dressed as a tiger for reasons that are not especially clear. 

* The tiger rapes the forced transgendered one, thinking it was his sister-in-law.

* .....whom he had had an affair with years before and left to die in a burning car!

Rarely can a film have culled its cast so utterly by the end. There's not a happy ending for anyone. The mad surgeon gets shot. His mother gets shot protecting him. The surgeon's first wife survives her car crash with horrific burns, but when she sees herself in the mirror she throws herself out of the window to her death. In front of her young daughter who happens to be playing there at the time. She goes mad, gets raped, ends up in an institution and kills herself.

Only the forced sex change rapist / rape victim / something or other survive, though I'm going to guess with crippling psychological problems for life. And great tits!


******* END SPOILERS *******

The film should be shocking really, but it's just so crazily mental and over the top that's it actually not anywhere near as disturbing as the plot suggests. True to his directorial linage, Pedro is at least consistent in casting a neurotic, but beautiful Spanish woman who doesn't look like a Spanish woman at all - the gorgeous Elena Anaya.

I will tell you one thing though, I really don't really want to see another film that contains 'vaginoplasty' in its script.</description>
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            <title>OTF favourite returns- the London Mayor Thread - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
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            <description>The Standard tells it how it is. Boris Johnson, having put tax freezes about improving rail for 4 years, belatedly decides he wants to run more suburban rail services, when he notices Livingstone has suggested it already.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24033469-give-london-a-real-local-rail-network.do

 The difference is that, at least under a Conservative government, ministers may be more inclined to respond favourably to such a proposal from Boris Johnson. 

There we go. We've got some cunts in central government who make decisions on the basis of whether their mates will benefit. So we might as well have another in City Hall. And they think this normal.

Funny, they didn't notice any central-local government &quot;synergy&quot; in 2008.

And in other news, they've noticed their beloved financial services industry isn't as good as they usually say:

 six months on from last summer's riots, this is a good moment to take stock of the plight of the victims of the violence. And it is shocking to learn that almost nine in 10 people whose businesses or properties were damaged or destroyed have yet to be compensated. Only £1.6&amp;#8201;million has been paid out to 330 victims and families. That means hundreds of people are left struggling to make good loss and damage themselves while insurance companies - and the claims bureau in the case of the uninsured - leisurely sort through their claims. 

Seriously, if this is how well it does when it's in the public eye, what about the other times?</description>
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            <title>Cameron's New Tories latest - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,624069/#624137</link>
            <description>Let's see them do the same with new roads.

The non-Tories are from W Wales and Cumbria- Climate Change Denier, Sammy Wilson, aside. I think they (and a few Tories from that side) might have a point about their constituencies getting a lot of turbines, and maybe the planning is unfair.

The rest are fuckwits who've seemingly come straight off the Telegraph site.</description>
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            <title>Kraftwerk week(end) on BBC Radio 6 - by: My Name Is Ian</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,29/id,623249/#624128</link>
            <description>Caught you on air yesterday afternoon there, Taylor, brilliant stuff - I mean, some of that right wing rock stuff was just horrific.

Great day all told on 6 Music yesterday - the radio usually goes on at our place as soon as we get up on a Sunday and stays on until the early evening. And god damn, I love Kraftwerk.</description>
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            <description> Harry Truscott wrote: 
  Bryaniesta wrote: 
 Luiz did an absolutely brilliant forward run yesterday against QPR and finished it off with a great pass to Anelka.

He's a rubbish defender but I think he would make a very decent defensive midfielder. 

I was discussing Luiz's possible best position with the Chelsea and QPR season ticket holders in the office this morning, we came up with wing back (does anyone still play with them? When is the mid-Nineties revival that would herald their return scheduled for?). 

More three at the back musings. (http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/8272/38/)</description>
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            <title>Digital malfunction - by: Renart</title>
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            <description>Eh, I like &quot;Paper Planes.&quot;</description>
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            <title>Dr. No bowing out? - by: Diable Rouge</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,624096/#624096</link>
            <description>Don't go Ian - who's going to be our Cromwellian bogeyman? (http://www.independent.ie ational-news/ian-paisley-rushed-to-hospital-with-suspected-heart-attack-3011163.html)</description>
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            <title>So no one's even done a Pakistan v England thread - by: E10 Rifle</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,31/id,615572/limit,20/limitstart,40/#624095</link>
            <description>England have been whitewashed twice in one winter. You'd have got good odds on that in September.

Hope Pakistan really turn over India now. They've been superb in this series, with only Taufeeq not making any real contribution.</description>
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            <title>The art thread will never end! - by: Lucia Lanigan</title>
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            <description>More excellent deaths: less than a year after the impressively long-lived Leonora Carrington, Dorothea Tanning - the next-but-one wife of surrealists' sweetheart Max Ernst - has passed away. 

Aged 101. Beat that. 

http://www.leninimports.com/dorothea_tanning_eine_kleine_shop_postcard.jpg

And Peter de Francia (&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/jan/23/peter-de-francia&quot;), just a week shy of his 91st. 

http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/T/T04/T04140_9.jpg</description>
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            <title>Futebol Brasileiro 2012 - by: cantagalo</title>
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            <description>Neymar's Santos goals:

Brasileiro 40
Paulista 22
Copa do Brasil 12
Libertadores 6
Club World Cup 1
Friendly 1 - I'm a bit disappointed to see this included. Not sure which match it refers to.

Brazil goals

Brazil U17 1
Brazil U20 9
Brazil 8

So I think there's a case for saying that the bulk of his goals have been scored in games against decent quality opposition - certainly compared to some of those claimed by Pelé and Romário in their totals!</description>
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            <title>Not just Karl Henry - Bad tackles thread 2011/12 - by: Amor de Cosmos</title>
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            <description> Harry Truscott wrote: 
  dalliance wrote: 
 

I thought the Roger Johnson tackle on Cisse was a snide and deliberate attempt to hurt him. I saw he ended up with a yellow card although I do not know if it was for that particular incident. He should have been sent off anyway, Cisse was silly to react but I understood his anger. 

 

Johnson's booking was for that challenge which provoked Cisse. Cisse's admitted his reaction was wrong but it's understandable given the two broken legs he's suffered in the past. 

Johnson did get his yellow for the tackle, and after seeing it half a dozen times, it did look as though it was intended as a &quot;reducer.&quot; While sympathetic to Cissé given his injury history, it was still a stupid response and a professional with his experience should show more control. Ironically, Barton — who got suckered into a red in a similar fashion against Norwich — saw instantly what was about to happen and arrived a split second too late to stop it. It must be said that Clattenburg looked totally mortified at giving the red. On reflection maybe he should have shown Johnson red as well, but, as in hockey it tends to be the response not the instigation that draws the biggest penalty.</description>
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            <title>Thirty years ago - by: Outside Agent</title>
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            <description> historyman wrote: 
 The new West stand at White Hart Lane is due to be officially opened today by none other than Sir Stanley Rous. 

The opponents are Wolves, who, ironically, were the first visitors to WHL back in 1908, I think.

As I'm only 9 years old I had to ask my dad who Stanley Rous was - he simply grunted and muttered something about a 'racist snob who used to run world football.'

Must be an important bloke. 

And Spurs beat Wolves 6-1 to leave them seven points off league leaders Southampton, with three games in hand. Reigning Cup-holders Spurs are also excelling in the knockout competitions, with a League Cup Semi-Final Second Leg at home to West Brom up next,the FA Cup fifth round after that, and a European Cup Winners Cup Quarter Final against Eintracht Frankfurt just one month away.

This wonderful Spurs side could clean up this year.</description>
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            <title>The Exploding Vole's Monday morning quiz - by: treibeis</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,615229/#623987</link>
            <description> If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you jump, too? Or would you say you would but bottle it once you peered over the edge, you big pussy? 

I was once in a similar situation (not a coastal cliff, but a water-filled quarry with 30-foot-high walls) and my reaction was decidedly feline.

So was everybody else's – bar one. The non-pussy's reaction was a broken pelvis and Christ knows what else.

There was no really serious long-term damage, as far as I can remember. However, a year and a half later, on his sixteenth birthday, his parents gave him a moped. Within a week, he came off it and broke at least one of his legs.

He also used to insist on writing in green ink in his exercise books at school, although I'm sure that had no bearing on his cheating death every couple of years.</description>
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            <title>Bands with contraceptive names - by: Bruno</title>
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            <description>Jethro Pull out</description>
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            <title>Do you remember the first time? - by: Bryaniesta</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,623950/#623960</link>
            <description>http://www.celticprogrammesonline.com/PROGRAMME%20COVERS/9495/CorkCity/Cork_City9495awee.gif</description>
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            <title>The Madness of Van Halen 1 - by: Harry Truscott</title>
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            <description>I really like Dave's first two solo albums, 'Eat 'Em and Smile' would stand up as a latter period DLR-VH album and while 'Skyscraper' went incredibly pop metal (let's remember it was 1988 and that kind of thing happened a lot) it still has enough to recommend it. Both probably piss over any Van Hagar album, I could never bring myself to listen to one.</description>
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            <title>Bands with deceptive names - by: treibeis</title>
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            <description>When I first read the name Crash Test Dummies, I thought they'd be a North American version of Peter And The Test Tube Babies, with songs about wanking vicars and the Queen giving good blow jobs.

I never for one moment thought their biggest hit would sound like my yoga-loving former flatmate going through his reveille routine at four in the morning.</description>
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            <title>The Walking Dead - by: Garamczy Antal</title>
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            <description>Zombie time starts again this Sunday.  Who's got predictions?

Does Shane last the season or is someone going to have to take him out?</description>
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            <description> E10 Rifle wrote: 
 This season's Championship is surely rubbish is it not? If this ugly, functional West Ham team can be top of it there must be something seriously wrong with its other 23 teams. The fuckers are gonna win the title by default. 

We can only hope so.</description>
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            <title>JT Captain Legend Leader not CaptainLeader Anymore - by: Super Scotty Parker</title>
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            <description>was it a cross or was it a shot!</description>
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            <description>Don't think Izzet played in 2002. He did however make it to Euro 2000, where he was almost cleaved in half by Johan Mjallby during a dreadful 0-0 draw in the first round.

EDIT: it seems I'm wrong and he did make at least one appearance in 2002, as a sub against Brazil in the semi-final.</description>
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            <title>No asterisks required?  League of Ireland 2012 - by: Diable Rouge</title>
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            <description>In probably the oddest story of the LoI pre-season, Sligo manager Paul Cook has expressed his interest in taking charge of Accrington Stanley (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16888105) - which would be near his hometown of Liverpool, but would be at least two levels below Sligo's ranking, and considerably less prestigious than the St. Johnstone post that he rejected.</description>
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            <title>Water, water everywhere, but ten bucks for a drink - by: The Exploding Vole</title>
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            <description>Phil Collins, eh?</description>
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            <title>Non-cryptically named TinTin trailer thread. - by: Vicarious Thrillseeker</title>
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            <description>I saw this on the plane back to Heathrow last night and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Granted, it felt like an Indiana Jones cartoon at times,but it rattled along at a great pace, and there were plenty of chuckles in the script too.I'll be taking my daughter to this-she'll love it.

Other films watched last night- Moneyball and Tinker Tailor. Both excellent,</description>
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            <title>TOTP on BBC4 - by: Jah Womble</title>
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            <description> How did the Nineties Mr. Big get away with stealing the band name? 
Probably by being signed to Atlantic and therefore having better lawyers.

What baffles me is how the US Mr Big got away with calling an album  Raw Like Sushi  just a matter of months after Neneh Cherry had used the same title.</description>
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            <title>90 minutes playing cards with no Jack of Spades - by: RobM</title>
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            <description>I think I've got a similar set up at my mum's that the NME gave away but with music folks.</description>
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            <title>Fuck off, IDS - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
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            <description>IDS' religion- which is embedded in everything he does- hasn't stopped him getting a bollocking from the outgoing head of the UK Statistics Authority.

http://fullfact.org/blog/UKSA_DWP_benefits_foreign_concerns-3265

This naive chap reckons you should get proper stats people to look at stats before you issue them to the media. And that perhaps you shouldn't write newspaper articles about these unchecked stats.

The all-party select committee have also criticised him, and noted the poisonous debate. Rather generously, they concede that the press is beyond IDS' influence, but didn't think he was helping.

IDS has though done such a good job in separating DLA (paid to help disabled people have active lives and not need care, including work) and ESA (the replacement for Incapacity Benefit), that disabled charities report disabled people getting much more shit from cunts:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/05/benefit-cuts-fuelling-abuse-disabled-people

Ted Heath wrote years after Rivers of Blood that he still didn't think Powell understood the torrent of shit he'd unleashed. Probably the same is true of IDS.</description>
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            <title>British Olympic medal hopes watch - by: Janik</title>
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            <description>Finished 1-0 to the hosts.

Agreed on some of the Argentine stick skills. One dribble in the first half where the player spun through 270 to beat one defender on the inside and then weaved outside the next was brilliant. And with Aymar it's not just the skill, but the stamina. She does those skills having first carried the ball 60 meters on a full sprint.

Can't argue with the final score. Britain only got two shots on target all match and one penalty corner, all from the same attack near the end of the first half. The only other thing of note was an excellent pass-deflection-carry attack that went the length of the field in around three seconds, but unfortunately ended with the player attempting the shot whiffing it.


btw ursus, Homeland Security will be around in the morning for your passport. Watching Womens Field Hockey in preference to the Superbowl?!?</description>
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            <title>I just sold my first items at an iAuction - by: Pietro Paolo Virdis</title>
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            <description>Jesus Christ!

There was a (banana) box with collector's cards which I've been going through. Some Panini (both football and hockey), Parkhurst hockey (mostly early 90's), bunch of other, and there was a stack of Magic the gathering. The last made me smile and think of Super Sharp Shooter's Baldhammer thread. Then I remembered someone once having mentioned one of those cards having been sold for some crazy money. A couple of hundred euro is how I remembered it, which is insane for a fantasy card, so I took a look at ebay.

This Magic the gathering card...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&amp;item=310327005845

...is on sale for $100.000</description>
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            <title>Best-named meteorological phenomenon? - by: Pietro Paolo Virdis</title>
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            <description>That is the coolest image of a sky I've ever seen</description>
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            <title>Kyle Stanley, poor lad - by: Rogin the sunlounger fan</title>
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            <description>Well wouldn't you know it, Kyle's come back from 6 shots behind to win the Phoenix Open this weekend. 

Remarkable. 

Put a fiver on this lad now, to win this year's US Masters. I mean it.</description>
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            <title>Anyone for Astrofest? - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description>His grandfather was the Astronomer Ernst Opik and his dad was a physicist. So I guess it runs in the family.</description>
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            <title>Bands with receptive names - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description>Was Sophie Ellis Bextor in that band?</description>
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            <title>Firefox 6 problems - by: Bryaniesta</title>
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            <description>Didn't know about the first point. Why is that, I wonder.</description>
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            <title>Current Reading - Books best thread - by: Garamczy Antal</title>
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            <description>Finished  Reamde .  I take back what I said about it being better than  Cryptonomicon .  The main villain is indifferently-written, there are a couple of continuity flaws in the latter half of the book, and the final blow-out goes on for at least eighty pages too many.  Good, but could have been better.</description>
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            <title>Does anybody care that this was my last photo..... - by: Furtho</title>
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            <description>By chance I watched Bangor City - Prestatyn on S4C on Saturday (was Jorge Porbillas one of the presenters?), of course from the new ground, and was reminded of these January pictures from Farrar Road. I've never been to Bangor in my life, but... it's a damn shame.</description>
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            <title>Incomplete - by: Gangster Octopus</title>
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            <description>40 years ago today Rotherham United played Tottenham Hotspur in the FA Cup Fourth Round.  To date it's been the only time that the two teams have met in my lifetime.  At the time I was fourteen, and couldn't make the trip to North London.  So Tottenham Hotspur are the only club currently in the league that I've not seen us play either a League or Cup match against.

NB. This is a slight reprise of this thread (http://www.onetouchfootball.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008960#000000).</description>
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            <title>Watch Super Bowl 2012 Live Stream Online in HD WSC - by: Rogin the sunlounger fan</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,31/id,623578/#623586</link>
            <description>...or in the UK, you could just watch it on BBC1.</description>
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            <title>What kind of mythological creature is this? - by: Amor de Cosmos</title>
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            <description> Andy C wrote: 
 Not a griffin. A griffin has an eagle's head. 

Ah it's not quite that simple:

&quot;There are a number of different types of griffins;

    the snake-griffin has a lion’s body, a snake’s head and a bird’s legs;
    the lion-griffin is lion-like but has hind legs shaped like those of a bird.
    The hippogryph, living far beyond the seas in the Rhiphaean Mountains, is the result of the rare breeding of a male gryphon and a filly. It has the head, wings and front legs of a gryphon, and the back and hind legs of a horse. It is a large powerful creature that can move through the air more swiftly than ligthning. It figured in several of the legends of Charlemagne as a mount for some of the knights. The Hypogriffin is a mix of a griffin and a horse.&quot;

I'm plumping for lion-griffin, (or gryphon.)</description>
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            <title>Watch out, Vidal's about - Serie A 2011-12 - by: Taylor</title>
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            <description>Christ almighty, so they did (although Inter are not looking especially fearsome of late).

Trust me to turn up on the wrong day as usual.</description>
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            <title>Super League 2012 - by: Tony C</title>
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            <description>Went to the Widnes-Wakefield game on Friday night - a real concern at how the Vikings fell away in the last quarter which certainly added to the notion that this is going to be a long hard season for the SL newcomers, particularly as Wakefield are fully expected to be down amongst the division's dead men. 

Lots of negative rumblings from Widnes fans about coach Dennis Betts- which built up over a very poor season in the Chamionship last season - won't be going away any time soon.</description>
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            <title>The Weeknd Thread - by: jasoñ voorhees</title>
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            <description>Moves Like Jagger to The Weeknd is like comparing Pacific Heights to the Tenderloin, or the '81 Niners to the '76 Raiders.

For me,  Knowing  is as close to a modern  Purple Rain  that we've had in terms of tragedy, post-modern angst, and being utterly crushed and defeated as all vestiges of one's humanity gets washed away.  Moves Like Jagger  was fun-filled fluff that puts you in a good mood to distract oneself from being crushed.

The Weeknd starts off at the darkest that R. Kelly and Prince ever went, then only goes deeper and deeper. By the last song of the last album of that trilogy, the character has gone through the grimiest, nastiest shit, and has come out whittled to a nub and has shrunk to the size of a pebble. He has become an abandoned infant, a sperm that didn't make it to the egg.

I just see all three albums as an astonishing work of art. Songwriting, singing, performance, drama, irony. It's a modern opera.</description>
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            <title>Eredevisie 2011 2012 - by: Geoffrey de Ste. Croix</title>
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            <description>And Ajax beaten again- 2-0 by Utrecht in the ArenA. That's the worst I've seen Ajax play in a long time and even though it's only de Boer's first defeat at home, Ajax looked completely devoid of inspiration or ideas. 

The boardroom shenanigans appear to be having more and more a detrimental effect on the pitch.</description>
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            <title>Right wingers less intelligent than left wingers? - by: Sanctimonious Git</title>
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            <description>counterbalanced by new study revealing that being left wing gives you cancer [source: daily_mail]</description>
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            <title>Expletives deleted - by: ian.64</title>
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            <description>For a neat comment on the banality of dubbing, I wholeheartedly recommend the specially-dubbed version of Alex Cox's Repo Man, where American icons such as Harry Dean Stanton are heard shouting 'bloomin'' and 'flippin'' constantly.

It's a joy.</description>
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            <title>Weekend plans? - by: ian.64</title>
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            <description>I love snow. Last night, I came back from the offie with cans of Health Ruin and enjoyed the wonderful dimly-ochre look that snow brings as it blots out night and makes everything visible. The sound of it crunching underfoot and the pure feel of how snow just changes everything you see. 

Now if only there was a way in which we could ensure that civilisation doesn't end when it arrives. Even when it's just an inch everything stops.</description>
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            <title>Refereeing Conspiracies. - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
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            <description>To be honest we're all getting a little bored of Jose's 10 year long campaign to show us that the world of refereeing is hopelessly biassed in favour of barcelona. While it was exciting and bold in its sheer balls out audacity in the beginning, it's just grown a little old. 

Similarly the first time you see howard webb in a man utd shirt it might be funny. A couple of years later it has started to pale. Ultimately its not much of a conspiracy tale. 

No, in order for us to come up with a real refereeing conspiracy we must go to colombia. (taken from said and done in the guardian)

 Colombia: FA vice-president Alvaro González Alzate says allegations that a referee sexually assaulted a colleague are evidence of &quot;gay contagion&quot;. &quot;To be a referee in Colombia you have to be gay.&quot; González Alzate says he believes officials are forced to perform sexual favours for each other if they want to progress. &quot;Sure, no one presents evidence or dares to speak out, but I believe it. I've been around long enough to know there is nothing more contagious, no worse disease – with due respect to those who suffer it – than homosexuality.&quot; Fifa referee Wílmar Roldán says the referees union will take action against González Alzate for being &quot;creepy and outrageous … He must withdraw this.&quot; 

Now that is a refereeing conspiracy story worthy of the name.</description>
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            <title>Have we done &quot;Real&quot; Internet Radio Stations yet? - by: Sundeporino</title>
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            <description>Cheers Linus. Although minutes before noticing your reply Id tuned in to BBC6 for the upthread mentioned Kraftwerk programmes. Will try em later.</description>
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            <title>Where was the orange ball? - by: The Exploding Vole</title>
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            <description>Watching the highlights of Birmingham v Southampton, such as they were, I really struggled to pick out the ball against the snow. Is the orange or red ball now regarded as too quaint, or not edgy enough?</description>
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            <title>35 dead in egypt riot? - by: Seven Saxon Kings</title>
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            <description>Interesting, and really confirms the worst suspicions of the authorities' role in this.</description>
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            <description>As I always say this time of year, All-Irelands aren't won in February.

I fancied Kerry to beat Dublin yesterday because in the league I always fancy the reigning champions to lose to a side they defeated en route to the All-Ireland when the respective levels of motivation are obviously going to be different. Kerry were always going look to put down a marker here for the year ahead, and in the second half they did just that.

As for Dublin, what we learned is that the forward line is much weaker when the Brogan brothers are absent. But the whole country knows that, so nothing to report really.</description>
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            <title>Liberté, égalité, fraternité - by: atteveld</title>
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            <description>Ah, school uniforms. At my [Catholic comp] school in admittedly 'nice' Leamington Spa, we didn't have one (except tip-exxed Doc Martens) and we called the teachers by their first names. And all the classes were mixed ability too. 

Not sure I have too many conclusions to draw from it all, except that I always noticed how the kids at other schools looked obsessed with finding any and every way to incorporate trainers or whatever.

Now my 5-year old is at school, I do find it completely crap that he has to wear a white shirt and a tie, plus totally impractical and cumulatively expensive. No ladders for him.

And my old school now has a uniform, and daily prayers (it wasn't like that in my day). Not sure if all the other stuff is still going on. I don't think exam results etc have changed much - based on that crude indicator, it performs worse than my two local comps in Stoke-on-Trent.</description>
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            <title>Fetch the Rolls, Schwarzer - by: stonelephant</title>
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            <description>Watching Man City v Fulham on Fox Sports this afternoon - not sure who the co-commentator was as we were never told, but I know he was ex-Boro and in his mid-30s.

Mark Schwarzer made a save, and this guy described him as a &quot;Great servant of the game&quot;.

At what point in a sportsperson's career do they qualify for servant status?</description>
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            <description>Yeah sad news seemed to care a lot about Forest</description>
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            <title>Day Trip To Cleethorpes Zoo - Conference 2011/12 - by: Sean of the Shed</title>
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            <description>Fleetwood's pitch protector meant Tamworth's game there was the only game to go ahead in the Conference, and we earned a creditable 2-2 draw, despite having been under the cosh for most the game and playing the last 25 minutes with ten men. I hope Wrexham fans remember what we did for them when they win the title by 1 point.</description>
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            <title>The Straits - by: Janik</title>
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            <description></description>
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            <title>Graphic Novels - by: Mat</title>
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            <description>Reading that article, DC and the writer defending them do come across like a load of dicks though, I mean this for instance:

 But Moore has spent much of the last decade writing The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen (using characters created by Jules Verne, Robert Louis Stevenson, Arthur Conan Doyle, Bram Stoker, HG Wells, H Rider Haggard and so on), and Lost Girls (a pornographic team-up of Oz's Dorothy, Wonderland's Alice and Peter Pan's Wendy). Pot? Kettle? 

They do get the difference between using characters from classic literature in a modern context, and this desperate cash-cow action, i'm sure. Desperate stuff.</description>
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            <description>It's the travel of the future.</description>
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            <title>When Saturday Goes - by: websitehandyman</title>
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            <description>I would love to bid on them but as said, getting them from Liverpool to stafford would be a cost to far I think. I used to buy a lot of shoot and goal but have to now only buy in high numbers due to the postage. 

Really could do with agents around the country but that might cost even more :-)</description>
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            <description>The NLP's going to be very thin tomorrow, isn't it.</description>
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            <description>This is what they want (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7MN9hTTlTw&amp;feature=youtu.be)...</description>
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            <description>Jeff again for me.  Even Harrow Borough's game was off.</description>
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            <description>Yeah, this is the thing, everybody's experience on this front is going to be different isn't it? I think that's why this is such an interesting and vital subject. My parents both left school at 15 or 16, and their lives were mainly spent keeping their heads above water to provide for their kids. They both worked full-time. Neither of them had a career or a trade or anything like that, it was all about survival really.</description>
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            <description>No, I'd the same issue - if you uninstall it (what an ugly word incidentally, &quot;remove&quot; would be far more euphonic) and then reinstall the latest version from the Adobe site, it should work perfectly.</description>
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            <description>Well on the down side we've dropped into the relegation zone, on the up side we've re signed the tank, and we've got Parkin, looks like we'll be seeing some silky skilful football over the next few months.</description>
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            <description>Great stuff.  Fantastic clip in the original link there.</description>
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            <description>Bring in Neil Taylor at 6.02 and sell Warnock.

Sell Hoilett and bring in Antonio Valencia who has really come on in recent weeks.</description>
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            <description> Other than that, TAB, you're saying exactly what I would expect a supporter of a BRC to say. I don't blame you for it - the orthodoxy of the last twenty years has been brilliant for Manchester United (and certainly better than the orthodoxy of the twenty years prior to that), and I wouldn't expect you to want that to change. 

Ah, now, firstly what I'm describing is most definitely not the orthodoxy of the last 20 years. I'm talking about clubs having to break even, having to engage in long term planning both on and off the pitch. To stop pissing away so much money on wages and transfer fees and not run up debts. 

The premise is that financially unstable clubs Operating from day to day are going to be struggling to be competitive in the long run, I think that forcing financial stability and long term planning on all clubs will benefit competition at all levels. 

but crucially it would finally focus people's attention on the problem of the inequality of income, because currently you have the equivalent of the american dream trap going on, where small clubs support policies that are not in their interests because they hope that some rich fool is going to come along, and they will all be rich. 

You also missed the bit where I talked about inequality of income being a serious problem and I think that that needs to be addressed. But allowing some clubs to spend insane money, and allowing clubs further down to gamble on promotion, or have a sugar daddy keep them up only exacerbates that problem, by arbitrarily redistributing relative incomes, and introducing substantial inflation. 

I've always been clear that I thought that the glazers takeover would be bad for all football, as they would have to aggressively grow their income to pay the debts, making the problem in inequality worse. And they have doubled united's income since taking over. 

The problem I saw with this would be mitigated in the case of Man utd by the huge outflows of money, but it would lead other big clubs to do the same thing. Where you see real inequality in english football is in commercial sponsorship. Some clubs struggle to find a kit sponsor, and take peanuts from loan sharks or dinky betting sites. While the top clubs get £20 million a year. 

Ultimately I just want to make it clear that I'm not advocating something because I think that it will benefit man utd. it's not as though sugar daddy clubs have ultimately been much of a hindrance to man utd. 

Liverpool outspent man utd on wages, and net transfer spending by a ratio of 4:3 all throughout the 1990's, and it made no difference. Chelsea massively outspent man utd on wages and fees over the last 8 seasons, and man utd have had the most successful five year spell in their history.

The club that were the longest term rival to man utd were arsenal, and they were operating out of a 38,000 seat stadium and turning a profit on transfers, and a real profit every year. 

The point is that because they were financially stable, operating to a long term plan, and making smart moves in the transfer market, They were able to take on man utd on their own terms, and were able to come back year after year. In eight years they came first 3 times, and second 5 times. 

You mention blackburn but something you have to consider is that the sums blackburn spent were enormous by the standards of the time, but they also wasted very little of the money. Newcastle spent £25 million in one year and nearly won the league, but that is like spending 6 times as much now. They then spent £15 million on alan shearer. He was the second most expensive player in the world. The principle is the same though, it just requires a lot more money now to spend much more than man utd.</description>
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            <description>A weather man is reluctantly sent to cover a story about a weather forecasting &quot;rat&quot; (as he calls it). This is his fourth year on the story, and he makes no effort to hide his frustration. On awaking the 'following' day he discovers that it's Groundhog Day again, and again, and again. First he uses this to his advantage, then comes the realisation that he is doomed to spend the rest of eternity in the same place, seeing the same people do the same thing EVERY day.</description>
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            <description>Sometime parodist vanquished Christian Millenniarist (6)

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            <description>If there's a gag in here I still prefer SR's Erskine Bridge one.</description>
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            <description>Went back on the ticket hunt tonight and within a few mins Rus-Cze (30 EUR) popped up, so all sorted now.</description>
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            <description>Yeah, I've seen this guy on TV giving some kind of a talk. What I remember was that he was ultra enthusiastic and used amazing graphics.

Now he's using plastic tubs. Haha.</description>
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            <description>My God! It's full of stars! (http://thesunshineroom.com/2012/02/03 orth-london-curiosity/)

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            <description>Numerous times, it's the only way I can score. With 2 upfront, my strikers hate scoring.</description>
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            <title>La Belle Epoque - EMI's French Girls 1965-68 - by: marke</title>
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            <description>i love this compilation.

picked it up last year on a whim ..</description>
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            <description>Not sure re. suspension.  

Bosingwa could likely start at left back, it would certainly seem counterintiutive to start Betrand v Man Utd when he has been passed over for selection against less formidable opposition this season.   Also what with Cahill being a newcomer I dont know how many newbies you want playing in a game of this magnitude.

Either way without JT and Cole we are going to have a makeshift defence, Im just hoping Utd have an off day and we play above the level we have managed in recent weeks.</description>
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            <description>Soul Train line on a street in Chicago for Cornelius (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.286701651394696.71350.120347108030152&amp;type=3).</description>
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            <description> Why at Last! wrote: 
 I don't think you can put László Rajk's execution down to anti-Semitism on the part of Mátyás Rákosi  né  Rosenfeld, can you?  

Rakosi was Jewish?  I had no idea.  

I've certainly seen Rajk's execution put down to a general wave of post-war anti-semitism (though it's been nearly 20 years since I cared about this stuff, so I couldn't say where to be honest).  Rajk's trial usually gets linked with the Slansky trial (which was *definitely* anti-semitic) because they happened at about the same time, and if I'm not mistaken, Slansky and co. were accused of having been in league with Rajk.  But perhaps the motivation in the two cases was quite different.

 And Poland's anti-Semitism has deeper roots than Communism, shall we say. 

True of many of these countries, I'd say.  The issue for me is how well communist parties kept that stuff in check.  Some were genuinely heroic in that respect through to about the end of WWII.  After that, much less so.</description>
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            <title>when show is gone, result stay - by: Bootleg Mark Chapman</title>
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            <description>Considering there were only two players left at Liverpool from Houllier's time in 2010 it doesn't take a lot of working out to identify that player. 

Assuming that what Houllier said is true, of course.</description>
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            <description>Doh!</description>
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            <description>http://oneutah.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/renault_shocked.jpg</description>
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            <description>Very interesting piece, SR, thanks for posting. What's impressive to me is the quality of work across such a range of genres, coupled with the ability to balance integrity and a desire to break new ground. The groundbreaking stuff is apparent pretty much throughout his career but I was very struck by TH's remark to the effect that he didn't want to mess around with what Belle &amp; Sebastian were doing, but simply to help them be the best version of themselves that they could possibly be.</description>
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            <description>Maybe they should've stayed with Johnny And The Self-Abusers...</description>
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            <description>The Upsetters</description>
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            <description>Huhne's gone (http://www.bbc.co.uk ews/uk-politics-16866127).

(I know it should be Fewer Points, but that wouldn't work as well...)</description>
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            <description>BMG here.</description>
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            <title>The Return of Alan Gilzean - by: JamesChristie</title>
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            <description> willie1foot wrote: 
 Yeah, welcome.

Great first post from a fellow Junior Football fan (I'm guessing...) 
Thanks, but sorry, I'm strictly Dundee FC, home and away most games. I'm lucky enough to have the match reporting gig for the club website and match programme. I don't have time to watch other sides too.

 shackleford wrote: 
 Some great stuff on here - I'm enjoying the Rangers v Dundee footage, although quite disturbed by the mental image of the Dons playing in royal blue... 

Wasn't there a Dundee fanzine called &quot;Eh Mind O' Gillie&quot; at one stage? 
That's right. There were two main Dundee fanzines. The other one was &quot;It's half past two and we're two nil down&quot;, which was produced by Alan Pattullo, who went legit with the Scotsman and wrote the excellent interview with Alan Gilzean that sparked this thread.</description>
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            <description> danielmak wrote: 
 These lectures/talks where people either say exactly what's on a PowerPoint or read *at* an audience seems to be a product of past age when there weren't 100s of journals for each field and multiple books about each topic. 

Oh yeah, I completely agree, I don't get why people do that. In Maths, a talk is an opportunity to watch someone develop their calculation or proof live. In computing, I want to see demos of cool stuff. In education, I want--I dunno really, I guess I want someone to put forward an  argument , and then for there to be a discussion.

I never saw that thing of people reading from papers until I started going to Education conferences. Nerdside, we don't do that.</description>
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            <description>Zola coached in England, so Foster will probably still be critical, if he is appointed.</description>
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            <description>A belated welcome, djw.

Murray played for Bradford City for four years (1994-98), joining from Scarborough (where he'd arrived from Portsmouth) in the first real transfer spree under Richmond. 

Having played centrally for Scarborough, he almost immediately ended up shunted out onto the left wing due to being left footed and judged too small (5'7&quot;) and lightweight for the central position. He was wasted on the wing as he didn't have the pace to beat men. Very good passer of the ball, though. File under 'never given the chance to thrive in his natural position'

He ended up at Notts County.</description>
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            <description>I'm a good deal less fussy than PPV or Chinglish. The dealbreakers for me have always been right-wing-ness, religiosity, and the whole astrology/homeopathy ew-age-bollocks area. And I think that's kind of it, really. Off the top of my head, like.</description>
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            <description>Blimey, haven't they just? I teeter perpetually on the edge of that abyss of footlingness. Scary.</description>
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            <description> dglhand of god wrote: 
 I can see why you wouldn't choose soccer if you had the choice though. For a start, playing Gridiron and Basketball pay considerably better in the US. Second, at college I would expect the decision to play a game no one really watches versus running out in front of crowds bigger than any Premier League game, or in basketball probably bigger than most MLS crowds... well, I imagine the perceived benefits to a 17 year old guy are somewhat greater. 

But kids growing up today are well aware of La Liga and the Premiership. They can fantasize about playing over there. Indeed, the exotic-ness of it makes it more attractive to some kids.

Besides, when kids are picking which sport to play in middle school, they aren't usually calculating future earnings. They're just focused on what they enjoy.


 Reed, the reasons most cite as why college soccer inhibits players professional development are 1]the archaic NCAA rules prohibiting the amount of out of season practice time; 2] the short season (Sept-Dec); and 3] the bizarre rules of NCAA soccer such as timeouts and unlimited substitutions. 

I'm aware of all that Rufus. 
But the best players skip college soccer now and the one's that do play still play PDL or similar in the summers so the college team is not their only training. And a number of ex-college players still manage to have decent pro careers. Ryan Nelsen, newly signed with Tottenham, comes to mind.

Still, I would like to see NCAA soccer get a bit less precious and allow more practice time and maybe more games and/or make the spring games count (college teams play a few exhibition games in the spring.) As it is, they are only allowed to practice eight hours a week in the spring. Ultimate frisbee clubs practice more than that.

Don't get be going about he stupid NCAA-specific rules. But they don't detract from the game as much as you might imagine.</description>
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            <description>I heard Phil Redmond interviewed on the radio a couple of years ago (repping Liverpool on one of those &quot;city of culture&quot; type awards that even Norwich was in line for). A more snivelling, turncoat, shriekingly compromised human being has not been heard on the airwaves for decades. He actually did one of those laughs fated informers do when gangsters are toying with them seconds before the bullet in gangster films, just before he jabbered about &quot;being realistic&quot; and the arts having to volunteer up their pocket money with greater gusto so the bully could afford new reflectors for his BMX. 

There's a Father Ted vibe to his look in that pic, actually, which seems appropriate when you consider the thwarted ambition.</description>
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            <description>The Innkeepers - 2012
Starring - A Hotel in Connecticut
Directed by - The Devil House Dude
**

     Admittedly, this was not a film that's meant to be seen on a computer screen in daytime. Maybe the effects on a big screen at night will be much greater. Or it's the simple fact that the same frights just don't get me the way they used to. 

     I like the whole idea of recording ghosts and recording sounds, and find those tapes when supposed ghosts repeating the same shit over and over to be creepy as hell. However, it didn't work for me, as did stealing Von Trier's edits from  The Kingdom .

Much like  Kill List , it's a film that builds beautifully and has great acting, but what it builds to leaves a lot to be desired.</description>
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            <description>*********SPOILER FILLED REVIEW************

Kill List - 2011
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Starring - One of those Blair Witch Stick Figures
Directed by - Ben Wheatley 

     When you try to do something somewhat original, or riff off of long-held conventions, you're bound to end up with the reviews above. I gave it 3 stars from what CV said, and took away a star due to what dalliance said. All points listed above I find valid.

     It hit awfully close to home for me, with the economic difficulties and a single child, and found the opening scenes to be outstanding. The music and editing is well-done, with various avant-garde jazz and classical pieces to match the altered mood.

     However, after building so much tension, it's tough if you don't have an ending that's worth that much.  The Grey  had a decent film with a great ending, this one was a great film with a mediocre ending. The more it's thought about, the more corny it will likely become. (I was in a play in which there's a gypsy leading a seance at the beginning of the play who's played by a girl, all of the characters then go back in time to where a murder took place, then right before they find the murderer they come back to the future seance where the gypsy is now played by one of the male characters. When I brought my concern to the director about how my brother's huge forearms were much different than the girl who was portraying the gypsy at the beginning before he reveals himself, she said &quot;look at our audience ! They're going to go 'DUUUUHHHHHHH - THAT'S JASON'S BROTHER !!!&quot; You don't want to feel that the director is saying that about you, which I kind of did with this ending.)

Brilliantly filmed, well acted, well edited...but pointless. There was no point to seeing it. All I had to hear was &quot;it turns out to be a cult wearing hand-made-thus-scarier-than-Made-In-China-Masks,&quot; and I would've been okay with that.</description>
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            <description> dalliance wrote: 
 The Fall would be a good contender in this thread for me. I listen to pretty much everything they release more out of habit than expectation, but its been a while for me since they were last really cooking on gas. 

Heh. As far as I'm concerned The Fall are the only rock/pop band who've successfully remained vital over longer than 10 or 12 years. Most use themselves up within 5 years or less. More bands should be like Big Black and get out before they lose their edge.</description>
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            <description>As expected, Internacional and Flamengo both go through. Despite, or maybe because of, being told just before the game that Luxemburgo had been sacked, Flamengo squeezed past Real Potosi with Ronaldinho getting on the scoresheet at the end. Sadly, my favourite Potosi player, Centurion, was sent off.

Luxemburgo's replacement is Joel Santana. He should feel at home - this will be the fifth time he's managed Flamengo.</description>
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            <description>JV, I started watching the Big Dog video while I had one of the Weeknd songs playing in another tab. It made for a strange an wonderful thing:

http://youtubedoubler.com/388n

The flying robots have the potential to be the biggest Christmas toy of all time.</description>
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            <description>Given that the final set alone lasted longer than the previous record for an entire match, no, that one is going to last for all time.
If the gap between Isner-Mahut and Santoro-Clement (the previous record) were to begin to be populated, then the rules would be changed.</description>
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            <description> Ronaldo was nearer 23 than 22 in 2007/8. It's not really that important though. ultimately I suppose the point is that if bale improves his movement, and his link up play with his teammates, he can start to have a more consistent impact on games, and become a truly world class player .

Well yes, but as I said I think he struggles in possession whenever he is not out in the wide open spaces and certainly in a way that Ronaldo does not.

He can pick up the ball anywhere and forge space for himself. Bale needs it played ahead of him in space at the outset of the move. 
 

 Players who can attack the penalty area from the halfway line, are the new no. 10's. From henry, through ronaldinho, ronaldo to messi it's where the big stars play.  

Well no, I disagree with this. Messi and Ronaldo are freakish players and stand alone above any other trends in the game. Anyway, while Ronaldo does conform to this style as Madrid are in essence a counter attacking team, Messi does not really. Barcelona dominate possession and the central defence will be the ones up on the halfway line, not him. 

Ronaldinho was amazingly skillful, but in his peak at Barcelona he was generally playing from a much more advanced starting position and never tracking back anyway. He never attacked from the halfway line because he never got back that far to get the ball.

Barcelona's model is the one everyone aspire to, a style based upon passing and moving the ball around players rather than necessarily going past them. It;s not that much different in priciple to what the Hungarians, the Dutch, Kiev and Milan under Sacchi did. It''s a system which is not really based upon dribblers who take on and beat players even with players like Cruyff and Messi playing.

I  don't think that he will have the ridiculous goalscoring impact of ronaldo who is unique, but he basically does the same thing every time, even if it isn't necessarily the right thing to do. Bale can become a really top player only if he doesn't do that. Imagine a stephen gerrard who wasn't crazy 

Which is what I am saying. He has no Plan B and he will need one in time to come because he's never going to be someone like a Garrincha, a player who had one trick, everyone knew it but they still couldn't stop him..

 it is also worth pointing out that ronaldo's goalscoring achievements in 2007/8 were helped by having scholes, giggs and carrick playing the ball forward, with Rooney and tevez wrestling the defenders out of your way, as you steam into the penalty area.  

 Bale doesn't get that level of help. Modric is a great player, and he has a good partnership with assou ekotto, but he doesn't have it as sweet as ronaldo had it. Ronaldo has a similar level of supporting cast at real madrid now. It really helps. 

No, I disagree here. Bale plays in a team which is very attack minded and loose which suits a player like him. He also has artistic licence to do as he pleases which is very unusual at a top team these days. So everyone lauds him for scoring a hat-trick at the San Siro last season, but no-one blames him for anything to do with the four goals that Tottenham conceded in the opening half hour.</description>
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            <description> Analogue Bubblebath II wrote: 
 In the opening seconds of Pedro Almodovar's Matador, the leading man whacks one out over a gory horror movie. 

Yeah, mainly the horrible bits from 'Blood and Black Lace' by Mario Bava. A giallo classic. He doesn't seem to be that interested in the fantastically camp set-pieces and brilliantly baroque set-design. More fool him, anyway eh. The bullfighting bastard.</description>
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            <description> blameless wrote: 
 Jesus, Glenn Hysen's running about on a ploughed field there. Of all the things I miss about old-school football, dreadful pitches aren't one. From his opponent's red 'n' blue sock, I'm guessing that's probably Selhurst Park.

Sorry, as you were. 

I think it's Palace, but in the 1990 FA Cup semi - so Villa Park perhaps?</description>
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            <description>I always find that listening to soca types like David Rudder. I love the rhythms and rhymes, and you can just tell that the lyrics are biting and Swiftian, but unless you know a lot more about Trin-bagonian politics than I do, it all kind of goes right by you.</description>
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            <description>I've previously gone to the mattresses on otf for Wesley Willis.

And I still would.</description>
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            <description>It was.</description>
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            <description>... so, er, if it said 'game' instead of 'matchday' it would be ok?  I just like things to look organised is all, and we don't have one of those Premier League Season In One Thread threads.  

And that's a good thing, judging by the number of other threads purely about Chelsea, or Liverpool, or whether Man U are any good any more, or Gareth Bale, or whatever.

I just think it'd be good if we had the odd conversation about, say, Fulham, or West Brom, or Villa for a change, and hoped to spark it up a bit here.</description>
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            <description>Not so much the scope as the mount, which is\was electronical.</description>
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            <description>Does atlanticjaxx want to clarify that quote? I tried Googling it but came up with some stuff I would rather not plough through</description>
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            <description>An interesting perspective from David Preece (http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/pro-footballer-speaks-its-the-media-who-keep-gay-players)</description>
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            <description>Brilliant.</description>
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            <description>Please pardon the interruption...

You're playing Mexico in son of Giants Stadium in New Jersey Sunday, May 27.</description>
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            <description>Troll Hunter was brilliant. The trolls were just how you would want them to look, all dumb looking with big phallic noses, when they could quite easily have gone for style over substance.
It was also good that they retained some of the myths that went with them, such as their ability to sniff out Christian men, and using a goat as bait on a bridge was a nice touch.</description>
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            <description>http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/01/david-blunkett-news-international-adviser

 David Blunkett has renewed a £49,500 contract to advise Rupert Murdoch's News International on &quot;social responsibility&quot;. </description>
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            <description>Janik wrote:
Wasn't Billy Davies sacked because he kept going on publically about the wage structure not allowing him to bring in the players he needed to take Forest from top-six to top-two? If so, sacking him and then ripping up the wage structure that was the reason why he was no longer tenable is spectacular example of shooting oneself in the foot.

Completely. I believe Billy had been offered Greening before and turned him down to boot. Much like he didnt want George Boyd when the club brought him in on loan (paying a big loan fee).

I'm not saying Billy should have 100% say on transfers, but buying players he clearly doesn't rate and won't play is just throwing money away.</description>
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            <description>As reported on OTF . . .  (http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,622002/)</description>
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            <description>If you like maps, you probably like stats, right? (http://www.worldometers.info/)</description>
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            <description>The NBA all star game more or less resembles what it is supposed to though John in my opinion. The most skillful players in the world playing playground style basketball with little regard toward structure or defence.  

The game itself has no meaning as such but its great seeing all that talent on the court at one time and I think its a great accolade for the players in that its an endorsement of their abilities and their standing in the game.  I wish that election onto the Premier League XI of the season had the same cachet that being an &quot;All Star&quot; in the NBA does.</description>
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            <description> meregreen wrote: 
 He'll obviously be portrayed as a crank, but reading his blog (http://ryanairdontcarecrew.blogspot.com/), he does seem to have a legitimate grievance against Ryanair and the appalling way they treat staff. 

His blog really doesn't do him any favours at all - he comes across as a delusional nutter with disorganised thinking patterns. 10 years ago it would be a page on Geocities with flourescent colours flashing everywhere and a plethora of &quot;Under Construction&quot; signs...</description>
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            <description> dalliance wrote: 
 Do Leeds have a wage bill that suggests they should be higher than they are?  I wasn't aware that they spent all that much on fees really. 

I'm curious as to what people think of Leeds United these days. I was talking to a fan of their's recently who trotted out the seemingly standard cliches that suggest they should be a top flight club on the basis of having a good history and a lot of fans. 

He was not overly impressed when I suggested that for many people younger than 50, there is a pretty decent chance they don't relate necessarily to Leeds being a successful side, nor indeed even a top flight side. 

I started following football properly around the time they were relegated in the early 80s. They were out of the top flight for 8 years then and will have been for another 9 by the end of this season. In between they managed 13 seasons back in the top division and of course a title which was a notable success. Even so it is the minority of the last 30 years even in the top tier. 

There are a lot of clubs I am sure who have managed more top flight seasons in this period who we would not claim had any sort of right to be top flight mainstays, even Blackburn, another one time title winner. 

What does everyone else think of where Leeds should or should not be? 

I started going to Elland Road in 1984 and, being too young to remember anything before that, it never occurred to me that I was watching a club that 'belonged' in the top flight. For a long time watching Leeds in the Second Division was my whole experience of following the club so promotion in 1990 was a real novelty and didn't feel like a 'return' in any sense. It's only really now that I can appreciate how recent the Revie years still were during the 80s and how that legacy contributed to unrealistic expectations about how that level of success could be brought back.

I think Grayson has done as well as could be expected in the circumstances. While keeping the books balanced is a laudable aim, it simply isn't possible to get into the Premier League, let alone stay there, if you can't keep hold of your better players and are reliant on a mixture of youth players, free transfers and loan signings.

There is the potential for a successful Premier League club at Leeds but then under-achievement has pretty much always been the story at Elland Road. Even at its most successful I don't think it has ever been anybody's idea of a well-run club.</description>
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            <description>People have some goddamn nerve, going on vacation and traveling and stuff.</description>
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            <description>Made it through all 20 but that's 45 minutes I'm not getting back.</description>
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            <description>Wigan, so bloody random.</description>
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            <description> moolag wrote: 
  
oh for fuck's sake. he told comolli that he said he kicked him because he was black.  

Sorry, show me where it says that in the report? He didn't say anything of the sort.

 he also told kuyt in a different language that's what he said. he later recanted on this and forced them to backslide on their statements in an embarrassing manner.  

Where are you getting this from?

 Also saying that negro wasn't necessarily offensive in spanish is meaningless, because as the committee were told,  calling someone negro during a row was offensive.   

Wrong.

The experts concluded their observations on Mr Suarez's account as follows. If Mr Suarez used the word &quot;negro&quot; as described by Mr Suarez, this would not be interpreted as either offensive or offensive in racial terms in Uruguay and Spanish-speaking America.”



It seems you have rehashed the largely misleading newspaper reports, as opposed to reading the report yourself 

Fucking hell, here we go again. 

http://tundratabloids.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/flat-earth.jpg

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            <description>I've seen Hibs wear their change kit at home a few times, but almost always around December, and sadly for no other reason than to try to flog a few extra shirts in the club shop in the run-up to Christmas.</description>
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            <description>In his honour I will eat a Snickers with a knife and fork.</description>
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            <description>It would help if it was the right way round. They've blatantly got the pin at the wrong end.</description>
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            <description>Yes, I'm sure I'm a Norwich fan.  I know all the words to 'On the Ball City' and everything.

But my wife's an Ipswich fan, and we live on neutral territory, so I basically gave up disliking Ipswich and decided to wish them well instead (except against us of course).  

We've been to a fair number of games together and I actually got carried away and cheered when Counago scored a dramatic winner at home to Coventry a couple of seasons ago.

At any rate, things would be far more exciting with both sides competing in the Premier League on an equal footing.

So there you have it. To save me going through that again, I'll just pop them on my shirt icon.</description>
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            <description> dalliance wrote: 
  Yeah, I can see that working if Ferguson sues WSC for saying he is bent. &quot;But The Amazing Berbaslug said things just like that about Italian football.&quot; 

Yes well, it's basically a re-statement of what Panorama suggested in 2004. Ferguson spluttered about suing them but mysteriously never did. So we can take it as factual I think, why do you reckon Robert Duvall? 

Yeah, listen, your excitable opinions on the discussion at hand is blinding you to the fact that it is not in the interest of our hosts here to make wild statements about a man who thought twice about suing the mighty BBC.

I'm proposing tempering language here, not that you review your personal opinion of the man. 

That I even have to explain that to you...</description>
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            <description> Pants wrote: 
 Ta for that MsD. Actually really interesting to read. 

To be honest, I think the bunfight between you and Bored came out of a simple misunderstanding. You said a lot of people round your way used the term “paki” and “paki shop” as “pretty much a term of affection, familiarity and acceptance”. I think what Bored was saying – and I agree 100% with him, as I think you do too – is that the intention of some of the people using the terms and those it was used about were out of kilter. While many white people may have been using it in a matey, colloquial way, it was actually very offensive. So it was an interesting conversation about peoples’ intentions but it didn’t seem to me that any of us ever disagreed about the actual result of people using these words.

“Of course Bangladeshis were Pakistanis until 1972.”

Ha, yeah. I was born in Bangladesh in 1972. I very nearly qualified as being a real, actual Paki instead of just a ‘paki’!

Hey Wingco, back on the FONY thing, I only just got around to watching that clip from Louie you posted up. Brilliant. The gay stand-up expressed better in a few seconds at the end what I spent 15 pages of this thread trying to say.

(if you haven’t seen it, it’s here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc ) 
Sorry not to reply before, Pants. I saw the last post on the thread was from Bored and thought it best avoided.

I could have saved much typing, although I'm glad you found it interesting, if I'd just talked about retrospective contextualisation; it wasn't that we used/accepted racist language and then stopped, it actually wasn't racist at the time, in that it wasn't intended to make anyone feel bad, or any way, about their race nor to convey bad feelings towards anyone based on their race. Racism cannot be determined by someone feeling they are subjected to racism, it requires intent and agency.  If the word changed usage etc. later on, that doesn't change that fact. I have never &quot;used racist language&quot; as asserted by BoE. (That's a very offensive charge, btw, as well as a daft one).

And this applies similarly to homophobia.</description>
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            <description> Paul S wrote: 
 Ten years ago I went to watch Marske Utd in an FA Vase game. I drove to Marske which was a tiny hamlet near Richmond in County Durham. When I got there I couldn't find the ground. In fact, I couldn't find a pub,shop or anything. With 20 minutes to go until kick-off I checked the map and realised I should have been 50 miles away at Marske-by-the-Sea south of Redcar. 
I'm pretty impressed that you managed to find the first Marske in County Durham as they're both in North Yorkshire, which is indeed ripe with similarly-named places.

I recently browsed through a French travel guide to England that had such a strong anti-Middlesbrough bias that not only did it not mention the town on any page (including maps), but it also hilariously claimed that Captain Cook was born in Marton-le-Moor.</description>
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            <description>They should have brought Mary Harney into the press conference and see what he made of that.</description>
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            <description>https://apps.facebook.com/theguardian/football/video/2011/jul/19/back-heel-penalty-uae-awana-diab-video?fb_source=other_multiline&amp;fb_action_types=video.watches</description>
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            <description>MHTB But  Creedence Clearwater Revival, Quintessence  and  Wilbert Harrison  at the Albert Hall. Old bluesman, Ladbroke Grove indo-Hippies and, well, Creedence. A bit weird really.</description>
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            <title>Liverpool v Brighton? FA Cup 5th Round you say? - by: torres</title>
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            <description>Jimmy was very friendly with Ray Kennedy and they ended up in a scuffle in North Wales(who doesn't) with some locals so they both got moved on pretty sharpish afterwards.
Liverpool should have held on to Jimmy as he was still an excellent player and he probably could still have been a good midfield enforcer for us for years to come.

A friend of mine up here is a very good friend of Hansen's and after visiting Hansen for a weekend they were drinking in a pub in Liverpool when Jimmy walks in after a lot of refreshment,Hansen sees him and then say's to my mate,quick let's get to fuck out of here it's Jimmy Case,he's a fuckin maniac. we'll end up in the jail if he see's us.</description>
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            <title>Historic changes at Heathrow - by: Ginger Yellow</title>
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            <description> Quite possibly the worst airport carpeting in the world is at Changi (Singapore), an aiport regularly voted the best in the world.  

I was thinking of nominating Singapore. But then I checked Google and this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/janepbr/4269331034/) seems to have been installed since I was there last. I quite like it.</description>
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            <description>The picture of Ronnie Goodlass reminded me of Jesper Blomqvist who used to play with his sleeves down like that, until Alex probably asked him what the fuck he thought he was doing hiding his hands.</description>
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            <title>Lovely Noo Yawk Jubbly - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description>Couldn't be any worse than the original.</description>
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            <title>Russian opposition goes full circle - by: Ginger Yellow</title>
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            <description>Regional authorities ban doll protest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/26/doll-protesters-problem-russian-police). Seems depressingly fitting, seeing as the castration and subsequent cancellation of Kukly (not to mention its TV channel) was one of the first major overt acts of censorship under Putin.</description>
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            <title>The non-excitement of the Superdraft - IPL 2012 - by: Ibn Pickthall</title>
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            <description>The passion of these West Bengalis is clearly impairing their judgement. Peter Reid is the second most expensive coach (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/30/hernan-crespo-indian-football-league)</description>
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            <title>an old post about newcastle united - by: stonelephant</title>
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            <description> stonelephant wrote: 
 With the benefit of hindsight the Sacred Cow Beheading Immolation Two Year Plan theory does seem to have been borne out to some extent in the longer term, considering the Toon's current progress. 

What a fucking disaster of a sentence.</description>
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            <description> sockdolager  - something outstanding or exceptional

or

 esemplastic  - able to shape disparate things into a unified whole</description>
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            <title>US states they rarely sing about - by: The Exploding Vole</title>
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            <description>Actually, I was thinking about Dayton, Ohio.</description>
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            <title>Mildred Pierce - by: Pietro Paolo Virdis</title>
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            <description>They're showing the Kate Winslet mini-series version on Swedish television and I only have two things to say:

Kate Winslet is without doubt the finest acress this side of Susan Sarandon at her 1995 Dead Man Walking peak, and before Sarandon only Katharine Hepburn, miles ahead of any actress out there today. 

The Reader and Winslet's performance in it is probably, in my opinion, among the five best things to have hit the big screen during the past 10 years.

HBO kick big movie-studio production ass. 
Boardwalk Empire
Rome
Entourage
the list goes on
and now Mildred Pierce

OK, so that was three.

I have to find the 1945 Joan Crawford version, but I doubt she'll beat Winslet's brilliance.
Man, does she rule in every frame, and she's still only 36.</description>
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            <title>Only gets going now - Australian Open 2012 - by: multipleman78</title>
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            <description>i am not sure there is anywhere with the faclities but would anyone else like to see a grass court masters series being brought in? every other major has masters series with similar surfaces yet Wimbledon doesnt.

Could one of the hard court events change to grass or is this not financially viable?</description>
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            <title>Blood, sweat, tears, guts, gore, savagery - by: Janik</title>
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            <description>I think it's unclear in it's meaning. I  think  it means all participants at moderate intensity, plus anyone over 65 who plays, regardless of intensity.</description>
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            <title>Admiring Admiral - by: Central Rain</title>
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            <description>Of the Leeds Admiral kits I have a slight preference for this one.

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_football/CURRIE_Tony_197904_GH_R.jpg</description>
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            <title>He was once a giant - by: The Exploding Vole</title>
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            <description> Sean of the Shed wrote: 
 Also on Lee Hendrie, he had his house robbed last year. (http://www.birminghammail.net ews/top-stories/2012/01/11/exclusive-son-of-birmingham-city-legend-trevor-francis-accused-of-stealing-jimmy-choo-shoes-in-burglary-at-home-of-former-aston-villa-star-lee-hendrie-97319-30098520/) The person accused of the robbery was James Francis, son of Trevor Francis and former Tamworth player. 
Bloody hell. This should go on that WTF? thread.</description>
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            <title>Spiritualized - by: danielmak</title>
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            <description>There is an interview with Jason on a BBC6 podcast that may or may not still be available for download. The BBC site locks me out because I'm outside the UK. Can someone download this and re-up to mediafire, hotfile, or multiupload.

http://bbc.in/2fu4WO

Thanks.</description>
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            <title>Saipan - ten years on: what have we learned? - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
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            <description>Hahaha.</description>
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            <title>J. Edgar - by: Analogue Bubblebath II</title>
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            <description>DiCaprio is an okay actor, but Daniel Day-Lewis he ain't.</description>
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            <description>I know from personal experience that some coroners go out of their way to avoid giving suicide verdicts on deaths that plainly are suicides (often, but not always, the motivation is to try to spare the family extra pain; sometimes this is misguided). This looks like another such case.</description>
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            <title>&quot;Like an outmoded avocado bidet suite&quot;, FFS - by: ursus arctos</title>
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            <description>Judging from his Guardian photograph, 19.

Though he has been working for them in Manchester since 2000, so he's likely to be pushing 30.</description>
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            <title>Hughes a silly boy, then? - by: Shoot Five</title>
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            <description>Hughes has now been charged; reckon Notts might sack him over this, which would leave on-loan John Forte, 'Big' Ben Bugess and Karl Hawley as the own strikers.

Burgess and Hawley have managed about 6 goals between them in two seasons, and only a handful more over the last three. Arse.</description>
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            <title>The FA Cup to leave a nasty taste - by: kevchenko13</title>
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            <description> Kettle wrote: 
  Ones for the sneering treatment from the highlights anchors - everything else. 

Heh, we've had two of those so far I'm hoping for another!</description>
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            <title>Big Eck is a TG? - by: Harry Truscott</title>
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            <description>Pretty much every club counts all season tickets holders in the official attendance wether they have turned up or not for the reasons Janik states.</description>
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            <title>The Artist - by: jasoñ voorhees</title>
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            <description>If a silent film does indeed win the Oscar, then  Sunrise  will either have lost one of the great poignant tidbits that made it an even greater film, or by another silent film winning about 85 years later it will have brought attention to it and give it a new audience. Or something.

SR's review reminds me of one of my favorite sketches of any comedic sketch, and that being the Mr. Show Monsters of Megaphones. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PlhJOzH0gY) It had the same style of joke.</description>
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            <title>The Master and Margarita - by: Ibn Pickthall</title>
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            <description>This theatre adaption (http://www.barbican.org.uk/theatre/event-detail.asp?ID=12872) may be of interest to London-based OTFers


I found my old copy of the book, it's also the Glenny translation.</description>
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            <title>The Grey - 2012 - by: jasoñ voorhees</title>
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            <description>After a few hours, it definitely digests well. 

The final scene is absolutely beautiful (didn't see the final, final scene, which comes after the credits. But reading it I'm kind of pissed they included it.) It's a very, very simple film, but well-done.

And thanks for saying &quot;British accent,&quot; as mrs. v said he sounded American, which I cannot fathom in any way.</description>
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            <title>Kid's TV is better than anything, these days. - by: southportzeb</title>
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            <description>I vaguely remember my brother writing an article for his university newspaper in which he argued that &quot;The Slammmer&quot; was what &quot;Britain's Got Talent&quot; should have been.</description>
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            <title>How many feathers did you get? - by: Amor de Cosmos</title>
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            <description>Like a lot of instructional amusements devised for kids back then it had a bit of that about it I suppose. They were all modeled, one way or another, on the Boy Scouts, which in turn was based on the British army and the Freemasons. The thing about I-Spy I remember most was that it was bloody hard to complete one of the books. I mean finding a pub called the Rose and Crown wasn't difficult, but a manhole cover with &quot;1910&quot; cast in it was a different matter.</description>
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            <description>Ah, I see. That's all going to end well, isn't it?</description>
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            <description>That is pretty extraordinary. Interesting to see how Ko handles her sudden fame, and the millions in endorsements that will certainly now await her as and when she decides to turn pro. Michelle Wie was the last prodigy to attract that kind of attention at such a young age, and while her career hasn't exactly stalled, it's interesting that after several near-misses at major championships in her first year as a pro aged 17, she's not come close to winning one in the 5 years since.</description>
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            <description>His farewell message, and his view of the future:

 Today, officially became a player of Spartacus! Most likely I'll play for 25 rooms! :-) </description>
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            <title>Great Lost Contributors Of OTF - by: Sundeporino</title>
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            <description> Erics Inner Monologue wrote: 
  Sundeporino wrote: 
 What happened to the Newcastle supporter who was felt the both he and the &quot;Geordie Nation&quot; were being persecuted by OTF &amp; The Guardian? 
I dont want him back, just wondering if he announced he was leaving or was banned or just drifted away? 

I follow him on Twitter. He's a lot less fun. 

Could you PM me his twitter thingy please?</description>
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            <description>Nick's maiden aunt is casual as fuck.

Sean has it, I think. Maybe I'll put this to them? (I won't)</description>
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            <title>In praise of the noble potato - by: Bryaniesta</title>
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            <description>Deep frying can be fun, but my entire house ends up smelling like fat. Sometimes I fry outside with an extension cord. That seems to work.

When I was up in the north of Sweden I had some strange shaped potatoes. They were the shape and size of a thick cigar. Apparently they can grow under weak sunlight, but need long duration of this kind of sunlight. So they grow well under the midnight sun.

 Gnocchi - see Mashed potato above but don't try and make it, buy it ready made. 

At the supermarket near me they sell gnocchi stuffed with tomato and mozzarella.</description>
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            <description>Carrot Crunchers is as nasty as it gets in this fixture. It’s a lame excuse as a derby really. I think it only got nasty once and that was last season at our place when some Hereford fans ripped up a flag covering a block of seats. The thing is it had that fucking excuse of a club logo, the clip – art lion, on it so nobody in the Salop end gave a shit. In fact I swear some Salop supporters positively encouraged them to rip it up.

Anyhow there were no bookings yesterday, no thundering challenges, and the game over within 30 minutes as a contest. Like I said, lame.

As for the supporters it was just a couple of half hearted wanker signs between the ‘yoof’ elements and the usual chorus of “Hereford is a shit hole I wanna go home” nonsense. 

The hundreds of coppers just looked bored and cold, or disappointed and cold, I’m not sure which.</description>
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            <description>Edit: Oops, this isn't the Australian Open thread.</description>
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            <description>I went to a truly grim stag do on Friday night. As it turns out, I could have been somewhere else, genuinely having fun (see Attention to Detail thread).

The 'stag' was the boyfriend of one of my wife's friends. He's a copper, but a genuinely nice bloke; he's often told me that he sees his job as being more like a social worker than a law enforcer. He doesn't really drink very much, so I foolishly thought it might be a bit of a sedate affair. 

The venue was his brother's flat. Upon arrival, at 6pm, I was confronted with a room of 30 completely shit-faced and aggressive blokes, and two topless waitresses (one of whom was as pissed as the blokes; the other, unsurprisingly, very uncomfortable). The walls and floors were covered in plastic sheeting, like the venue for a mafia hit. The stag was in an ambulance with alcohol poisoning before the sun had gone down. The waitresses also left when some of the pricks at the party started throwing beer at them. The worst of the bunch were the stag's cop colleagues, but I saw a side of some of my own acquaintances that will mean I give them a wide berth from now on.

Grim.</description>
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            <title>European national teams yet to be played - by: satchmo76</title>
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            <description>Iceland only entered one World Cup and one Euro Champs prior to 1974, so are relatively late entrants. They're probably equivalent to Malta or Cyprus but both those countries have British ties; and I'm not convinced these qualifying draws are/were totally random.</description>
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            <title>Breaking new ground in scrawled cocks-and-balls - by: evilC</title>
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            <description>This old one. (only from here (http://haphappy.com/2011/06/09 ew-zealand-high-schoolers-show-cocks-to-the-world/) this time.)

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http://haphappy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cock-600x341.jpg</description>
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            <title>Climatic fluctuation in Australia - by: trimster</title>
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            <description>Adelaide weather has become quite unpredictable in recent years. You never really know whether you are going to get a wet year or a dry year. In late 2008-early 2009 we went almost three months without any rain at all; but since then it has become wetter, the reservoirs are about 90% full instead of 60%, and water restrictions have been lifted.

I kept rainfall records for about 4 years (until someone trod on my rainguage and broke it), and I can't see any definite pattern in them at all. For instance, in July 2009 we had 169mm of rain, but in July 2010 we had only 68mm.

Summers now seem to be more humid, and we get more summer rain than we used to; winters just as cold as ever and rain is very variable.</description>
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            <title>&quot;anton ferdinand, you know what you are&quot; - by: Er Liquidatore</title>
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            <description>I'd like to know what one nut sending a bullet in the post to Anton Ferdinand has to do with 'Chelsea supporters', as it happens.</description>
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            <title>Emigration leaving present ideas? - by: bewaldeth</title>
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            <description>More great suggestions, cheers all. I've been out this crisp, sunny morning taking photos of pubs and created a photobook for him. How does one go about the proxy server/VPN sub thingy, Sam? I'm a bit of a technofuckwitt I'm afraid....</description>
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            <title>Nigeria (and other African politics) - by: Tactical Genius</title>
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            <description>Purves

 
Not quite sure about &quot;spot on&quot;. The vast majority of private power generation is diesel-powered, just because  safety issues  mean that gasoline generators don't get made anything like as much. 

 

Have you ever been to Nigeria before?

The minibuses are called danfo and tend to be Toyota Hiace or similar vehicles (VW transporter). These are usually peterol driven. The larger buses known as Molue are a mixture of both.
These tend to be second hand busses bought abroad (Holland and Belgium were favourites) and shipped to Nigeria.

The bus routes in Lagos State go between markets which tend to be around 3 miles apart. The government also run busses that tend to be newer and in better condition too but a majority are of the type you can see in the links below:

Danfo
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6i9_F3z0A6A/TpbP5P3wNYI/AAAAAAAAA1o/aZFb-9JjNY0/s1600/danfo+bus%252Byeoal.jpg

Molue

http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/89021_MOLUE_jpg110b303591d74a579ef64b27957dc44c

Most people travelling back into the cities would be travelling by Danfo, only the more well-heeled would be travelling on the Greyhound-type busses you see doing the inter-city round in the US or UK.

Even though the government talked about removing subsidies, nobody was really sure of the effect until they turned up at the petrol station the following day.

I can also confirm that most private power generators are in fact petrol and due to unreliability with the local power company NEPA. These tend to be pretty similar to the type you see at campsites or down your local B&amp;Q. This is because Petrol is easier to obtain than deisel and most importantly Petrol generators (as well as cars) are easier to get serviced by a local mechanic.</description>
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            <title>Intl. Newspaper Naming Convention (proposed) - by: Incandenza</title>
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            <description>Any other Bees besides Sacramento?</description>
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            <description>I should also add that soul-funk act Deep Cover's sleazy lurve anthem Let's Take This One Upstairs still hits the spot</description>
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            <title>The First British Diver - by: Bored of Education</title>
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            <description>I am assuming that this thread was started because of Sturridge just now?</description>
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            <title>Balls - by: Bryaniesta</title>
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            <description>Derbystar. (http://www.derbystar.de/appc/content_manager/page.php?ID=165773&amp;dbc=cfac4a29e2878079a569dee729fc8cba) Germany's best kept secret.</description>
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            <title>You're not welcome here (MUFC redux) - by: dalliance</title>
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            <description>I didn't think it was a negative article at all. It raised relevant points that pretty much mirrored a lot of what was said on here.

Is Ferguson that short of cash that he can't sign anyone?
What message does this send out to the youngsters who aren't getting selected?
How useful can a player be coming back at this age and in these circumstances?

And I very much doubt the plan was ever to bring him back, he's Paul Scholes, not Frank Sinatra. If you were planning to bring him back you would have him doing better preparation than going on holiday, doing some stuff with the kids and promoting his book.</description>
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            <title>Have we done Google's new privacy rules? - by: stonelephant</title>
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            <description>Thanks all.

My Google thingy is blank. I can't remember what I've opted in or out of but tend to approach such things with paranoia - so probably &quot;out&quot;.

Nevertheless as an experiment I have spent a few hours this afternoon researching a non-Google/MS/InfoSys based browser and search engine.

Search engine-wise I am now trialling IxQuick.com which is actually a metasearcher rather than using its own server. I will see how that goes.

For browser I IxqQuicked (not Googled - ha!) &quot;best browser software&quot; and after Chrome and Firefox the next one was Opera. So I have spent a considerable amount of time getting it set up with all my bookmarks etc.

I am now starting to worry it may be too slow. Bugger.</description>
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            <title>The &quot;lifting the curse of the cream suits&quot; semi - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description> Bored of Education wrote: 
  Rogin the sunlounger fan wrote:

Tim Lovejoy is mong

Agreed. 

Bloody hell, we are all post-Gervais now, aren't we? 

Important to note, Rogin never wrote &quot;mong&quot; anywhere on the thread. So leave him out of any (rightful) ire you feel ove the use of that unpleasant term.</description>
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            <title>Duke of Argyll - by: willie1foot</title>
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            <description>Ditto.

Coincidentally, my Gomers flared up when I was on  holidays last week. A liberal coating with the ointment has calmed them down considerably.

I really must stop browsing on my iPhone whilst on the bog.</description>
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            <title>Eusebio @ 70 - by: historyman</title>
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            <description> Tactical Genius wrote: 
 

 The only reason he didn’t embezzle money was because he was too incompetent to generate some in the first place. 

Rous is an old style racist who thought Africa and Asia deserved one place between them and they should be thankful for that.

Rous must have come across like those small-town sheriffs in Alabama lamenting on these uppity nigras “carrying on” 

I don't think incompetent is the right term to use in this context. Rous was Victorian in much of his outlook on life and that included an almost messianic zeal on the merits of public service, which be brought to his role as a football administrator.

It's staggering to think now that Rous was unpaid as the president of FIFA, refusing a salary and viewing it as his public duty to administer the world game.

You can see why FIFA could never have modernised with Rous at the helm, as he probably believed that making money from sport was inherently immoral. 

The irony is that within England itself, he left a legacy as a driving force of modernity in areas like refereeing and coaching.</description>
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            <title>Why aren't Monaco in the UEFA qualifiers? - by: Sam Kelly</title>
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            <description>FC Andorra play in the Spanish league system (this season they're in the Catalán second division).

I assumed the UEFA guideline was the same as FIFA's; that clubs are allowed to play in a neighbouring country's league system if the highest level of their own nation's league system isn't fully professional. That obviously doesn't explain Berwick, but it does allow the Welsh clubs to play in the English pyramid (plus Canadian clubs in MLS, Andorran clubs in Spain, etc).</description>
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            <title>Celebrity Big Brother - by: atlanticjaxx</title>
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            <description> David Agnew wrote: 
 The Twins made the comment that Denise had threatened to pull her pants down again on the night, and in the spin-off show (featuring Pete Burns looking like a made-up Scream mask), Denise was adamant that she should not have done it and was totally in the wrong. 

It was wrong, agreed, but there are different levels of wrong. I think if it  had  been Frankie who done what Denise had done - a young man who constantly admits his sexual desire for the sisters, it would have been a significantly different situation, and deserved of the outrage that it would have garnered. I mean, he probably would have been chucked out. I could imagine that Channel 5 might have done a hush hush job on it if they could (not that I'm saying they should of or would of - just thinking out loud).

The moment when Denise threatened to pull down her pyjama bottoms a second time was actually shown, It was when they started dancing again, before it kicked right off. It wasn't a serious, genuine attempt, more a case of Denise taking the rise out of her own stupidity in a clumsy attempt to defuse the situation. I also remember her pleading desperately, perhaps pitifully to Karissa something along the lines of &quot;please say she'll forgive me tomorrow, please, please&quot; 

*To make a quick point on  Denise  bringing in Nicola to the argument, Nicola was already &quot;mediating&quot; (via the method of screaming like a banshee in Denise's face) when Denise unleashed the bitch guns on her.

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Denise won because the pubic sympathised with her vulnerability and perceived her as being bullied by the twins, Nicola and Michael, who was quietly spinning against her in the background, I'm glad she won, I was happy that any of the last three would win.

I thought it was a good series for what it was.</description>
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            <title>OTF Albums Of The Year 2011 - by: jasoñ voorhees</title>
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            <description>After hearing all of the contestants, The Weeknd takes it just for the first 5 songs alone.

So tell me you love me, even thought you don't love me.</description>
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            <title>SUPERTASTICSUPERSUNDAY IT'S ON!!!! - by: statto99</title>
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            <description> it'll be a tough one for the FA to act retrospectively on. Can they even do that? Wasn't the ref right in front of it? 

Turns out I was wrong about that. It was actually really, really easy for them to act,  despite  the referee having looked straight at it.

Am I right in thinking that the charge for Balotelli came only after Howard Webb had seen all the angles umpteen times on slo-mo from his armchair and decided that he  would  have sent Balotelli off  had  he seen all those angles? Is the definition of the ref not seeing it now expanding to the ref not having seen it backwards and forwards on all angles covered by a television camera?

I thought all football authorities everywhere were definitely and implacably against any official anywhere being influenced by anything they'd seen on television, be it during or after. If it's actually ok now for the ref to decide what they would have done had they had the benefit of watching a live television feed of the game I look forward to the television booth at the side of the pitch for the fourth official and a whole slew of players being cited every Sunday morning.

Just like with Kompany, it's just going to be the one incident where this happens, though, isn't it? 

I'm genuinely concerned that we're charting wide new territory in arbitrary (literally) single exceptions to very loftily declared rules.</description>
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            <title>Franchise vs Wimbledon goes to Parliament - by: Bored of Education</title>
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            <description>They have found the perfect manager in Karl Robinson, haven't they?

I am assuming that they think that they have found the new Wenger/Mourinho/AVB/Houllier in that he has no footballing career to speak of. What they have found, however, is Franchise personified. Johnny come lately, no history and not a clue about what football is about</description>
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            <description> Stumpy Pepys wrote: 
  Harry Truscott wrote: 
 Oh, who else mentioned Philliskirk? 

Just you. But we remember his no-pace centre-forward play at the Wanderers. 

But didn't you say he had been mentioned prior to my listing him?</description>
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            <title>&quot;...until, with the last touch of the game...&quot; - by: Janik</title>
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            <description>Fine entry into these stakes from Gabon. YouTube link coming once someone gets it online...
Here we are (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJC6csIOgo&amp;feature=mfu_channel&amp;list=UL).</description>
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            <title>So high speed broadband then - by: Ginger Yellow</title>
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            <description>Yeah, they pay the wholesale price. As for the government's plans, I haven't looked at them too closely, but I think it's about offering contracts to the infrastructure providers (mainly BT and Virgin) with government subsidy to provide rural coverage. I don't know if there will be strings attached in terms of the price they offer to people like Sky.</description>
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            <title>New songs you like in 2012 - by: delicatemoth</title>
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            <description>The godlike Nicki Minaj has a new record out! Hurrah! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM)</description>
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            <title>The Northern Lights aren't in my eyes - by: Mr Cogito</title>
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            <description>Strange times, Archie. Strange times.</description>
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            <description>I think that's definitely part of it, and I also think there is (or was) a persistent stodgy mentality amongst the traditional 'Big Five' orchestras that was never going to mesh with TT's showbiz overtones. Chicago, at that time at least, thought *extremely* highly of itself and was still full of old guard players who'd played under Reiner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MhzvayEVp0) and thought it was downhill ever since. (When I watch a video of them from recently I recognize practically nobody.  there's been a dramatic reduction in average player age. Above video linked because it's fun to try and imagine a greater contrast with Tilson Thomas. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdeyneTxf7Q))</description>
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            <title>Committing to a Man Bun - by: Renart</title>
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            <description> Heliotrope wrote: 
 The Montreal Canadiens of the 1970s might have fond memories of their coworker Bunny Larocque.  

&quot;Je me souviens.&quot;</description>
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            <title>Yekini - by: erwin</title>
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            <description>But that first article's from last summer, mirko ...

I do remember Yekini in Portugal - an imposing figure and top scorer in 1993-94 (21 goals). And he got 90 goals in 108 games between 1990 and 94. (all from Wiki)  

It's only a shame (for him) that in his prime he was at Vitória de Setúbal, a bit of a dead end really. If he'd been playing today, he'd surely have ended up in England or Spain earning a small  fortune, which he can't have got at Vitória.</description>
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            <description>Soho pizzeria! Thanks for pointing out what should've been an obvious option.

I've not heard of the others, Sergios looks good and isn't too far from where I work. Thanks all.</description>
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            <title>Sibling Rivalry (Part II) - by: Outside Agent</title>
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            <description>United have enjoyed a few smash n grab jobs at Anfield recently. O'Shea's late winner in 2006/07; the Dudek-assisted 2-1 in 2002/03 &amp; 2003/04. Whilst United don't ever hammer Liverpool, they've put in some bloody good performances in defending their early lead - I'm thinking the 1-0 (Rooney) in 2004/05 and the 1-0 (Tevez) in 2007/08.

Since the 90's, however, I would list at least eight good comfortable beatings that Liverpool handed to United: 2-0 to give Leeds the title in 1991/92; 2-0 in 1994/95; the Fowler-inspired 2-0 in 1995/96; 3-1 in 2000/01, even though league was all but sealed already; 3-1 in 2001/02; 2-1 in 2008/09, where Liverpool were much more dominant than the scoreline suggested; 2-0 in 2009/10; 3-0 in 2010/11. I'm not sure any of United's victories in that timeframe could be regarded as comfortable as those mentioned above.

Through James, Dudek &amp; Barthez, there's been some real goalkeeping shockers in this fixture.</description>
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            <title>Sherlock Holmes - by: E10 Rifle</title>
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            <title>Jed's house is for sale - by: via vicaria</title>
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            <description>I think of that house whenever I read about/hear about/am in Chester. 'Chest-aah' just repeats in my head.</description>
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            <title>The Best Websites - by: Pietro Paolo Virdis</title>
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            <description>Time magazine do an annual 50 best websites which is worth taking a look at.

TIME link to the websites (http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2087815_2087821,00.html)

I tend to like the simple ones, like Dear Photograph (http://dearphotograph.com/), where people take a picture of a picture from the past in the same setting in the present

I used to have loads of links under favorites, but they're now down to a fraction, where most are resources like Soccerway, RSSSF, or tools like Pixlr's Online Photoshop tool and Grooveshark.

Am I the only one who's become a bit &quot;full&quot; with the Internet experience in the way that I don't spend as much time exploring every corner of the space, but stick to a few sites.

My favorite site at the moment is Bank and Niva (http://blogg.aftonbladet.se/25977/). Two swedish football journalists running an outstanding blog where they pick up topics and stories rarely mentioned in the daily papers. Two extremly gifted and knowledable writers where every piece is a treat. I dunno how well translation tools work these days but it's worth a try.</description>
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            <title>Happy Republic Day - by: stonelephant</title>
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            <description>Rogin, my brother in Brum has the photos (well I bloody hope he does or they're lost for good!). Next time I'm talking to him I'll try and find out.

Dad was an RSM. All I remember was that Alex Graham who created Fred Bassett was in the regiment. From memory he said he was a dickhead. But he still had about ten of the books!

Anyway, anything I can get I will let you know.</description>
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            <title>Some pictures what I drew (redux) - by: RobM</title>
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            <description>Fantastic stuff again.</description>
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            <title>Your Monaco bank account name - by: All New George</title>
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            <description>Jaws77

And yes, Jaws was a goldfish.</description>
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            <title>Happy Australia Day - by: stonelephant</title>
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            <description> Why at Last! wrote: 
 Is it soppy to wish all Australians well today? Well, not all Australians, obviously: we can all draw up a list of them we wish ill. All kinds of Australian. 

Well maybe, but we Aussies are renowned for our sentimentality so thanks very much.

Incidentally I may have mentioned this on the book thread but Matthew Kneale's  English Passengers  is an excellent novel, both humourous and harrowing, written around the early western settlement of Tasmania, and the extermination of its aborigines.</description>
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            <description>Excellent gig.

1 Joy in Leeuwarden
2 Bottleneck at Capel Curig
3 When the evening sun goes down
4 Turned up, clocked on, laid off
5 Left lyrics in the practice room
6 Lilac Harry Quinn
7 Excavating Rita
8 Lock up your mountain bikes
9 Improv workshop mimeshow gobshite
10 Dukla Prague away kit
11 L'Enfer c'est les autres
12 National shite day
13  Best things in life
14 We built this village
15 1966 and all that
16 Irk the purists
17 Floreat Inertia
18 Vatican broadside
19 Rock and roll is full of bad wools
20 24 hour garage people
21 Tommy Walsh's Eco-house
22 Light at the end of the tunnel
23 Joy Division oven gloves
24 For what is Chatteris

25 Petty sessions
26 I love you because
27 Fix it so she dreams of me
28 99% of gargoyles</description>
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            <description>Losing their cool at the &quot;State of the State&quot; address. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/01/26/scott-walker-state-of-the-state_n_1233334.html)

I'm not at all close to this, but friends tell me things are really ugly.</description>
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            <description>So I got to go to the public memorial for Joe Paterno. Maybe nobody cares but here are my thoughts.

I got to go because my friend Jennifer, who  managed to somehow get two tickets. Just dumb luck on the internet. They were all gone in seconds. And she knew I’d want to go badly. She picked me up and we parked at her office, which is, fortuitously, nearby the basketball arena where they held it. 

I feel like it was divine providence/serendipity/unimaginable luck that I got to be there and I am now obliged to figure out why. I learned a lot but still am processing. 

Every single speech was outstanding. At most graduations I’ve been to or meetings I go to, if you get one really good speech out of every four, you’re doing well. This was 100%. That alone made this remarkable.


Our seats were pretty bad, way in the top back corner but that was ok. We could see the jumbotron. The BJC needs to upgrade that, but it was ok.

It wasn’t 100% full, but very close. The seats behind the stage were empty and there were a couple of blocks of conspicuously empty seats. Ticketmaster must have screwed up. Not sure how many people were there. I think they said 10000 tickets, plus a few thousand for VIPs. A lot more than it gets for basketball, I'm afraid.

It seemed like there were a lot of players past and present there but it didn’t seem like the whole current team had seats on the floor. Not sure why not. Overall, 800 former players were on campus this weekend either for this event, the private funeral yesterday, or at least the viewing earlier in the week. Not many of us will have 800 people notice we're dead, let alone move heaven and earth to come to our funeral.


Anyway.

First, the family came in, led by Sue Paterno. Standing ovation. One of many. It occurs to me that Joe's daughters look the same as when they were teenagers and I was four and they were my babysitters.

An accapella group sang the alma mater. Lots of sobbing could be heard. And a prayer from a priest I don’t know. In his later years, Joe went to mass on campus at the all-faith center he helped build instead of the main church in town so maybe that was the main campus priest.


First up was Kenny Jackson, receiver in the early 1980s. He played in the NFL and also coached at PSU for a while before being a coach in the NFL, but I'm not sure what he does now. I almost started to cry as soon as he said “I’m Kenny Jackson.” My entire childhood came back to me in that moment.

Most of his talk was about Sue and his own mom and that was sort of the intro. 


They had six players sitting on the stage, each to officially represent a decade, and they all spoke but they didn’t always go in order and they mixed in others. 


Charlie Pittman - Representing the 60s, who also talked about Tony Pittman, his son, who played in the early 1990s. He pointed out that he was one of two black guys in Joe’s first recruiting class and what that meant. I’m not sure what he does now for a living, but he obviously gives a lot of talks. He pointed out that Tony turned down Harvard, Yale, and Princeton to play for PSU and that neither of them ever lost a game at PSU that they started and that they are both academic all-americans. Not many father-son combos like that. He was very upbeat. Humblebrag.

Susan Welch – Dean of Liberal Arts, talked all about all the support and PR Joe and Sue had done for Liberal Arts. Some people are saying they should name the college after them. That’s a thought, but then maybe they want to hang that out there for some other rich person to give a ton to get their name on it.

Some girl whose name I forget – one of the first Paterno Fellows, a special honors program for undergrads in the college of liberal arts created by a big gift from the Paternos. She was especially eloquent about Sue but also talked about how Joe thanked  her  for her effort.

The kid who is “Mayor of Paternoville&quot;, where the kids camp out to get the best seats for the games. It's also kind of it's own organization that does charity stuff. Very good job too. He talked about how it’s not about football but being apart of something bigger than oneself. Nice job.

Todd Blackledge – Representing the 1980s. Perfect job. Not surprising. He’s a pro. He said that winning the 82 championship was his biggest honor until today. He told the story of how Joe made him room with the late Dick McGuinness his freshman year and how they didn’t get along because McGuinness had a pet snake and a St Bernard and was a slob and how Joe brokered that peace and how they ended up being friends, etc. Well done.

Jimmy Cefalo – Representing the 70s. That was especially moving the way he talked about how Joe’s lessons have guided him. He also told the story of how Joe would “recruit the mothers” and won his mom over by telling her “You know, Mrs Cefalo, your pasta sauce is even better than Mrs Cappalletti’s.” His talk was probably the best of the players’, but they were all very good.

Phil Knight – Excellent job. He was the only one who really addressed the scandal directly. At first that was kind of shocking but it brought the house down when he said “There is a villain in this story being handled in the courts and it is not Joe Paterno.” He clearly understood that somebody had to say it and that he’ll take flak from idiot sportswriters but he’s Phil Knight, he can say whatever he wants to. A great &quot;I'm Keith Hernandez&quot; moment. He spoke about how Joe became his hero after Bill Bowerman (track coach and fellow Nike founder) died. He obviously gives a lot of speeches but he knew Joe pretty well because Joe first got PSU signed on with Nike in the mid 1970s and Joe went to all of the annual &quot;coaches trips&quot; to Hawaii. I will only buy Nike from now on, I think. I do anyway. They fit me the best.

Chris Barrone – representing the 1990s. This was a stroke of somebody’s genius. He blew his knee out and never really played, but Joe still looked after him, so it was special that they picked him over any of the superstars like Lavar or Kerry Collins. Now he’s some kind of big shot lawyer and worked for Secretary of Defense Gates. He explained how Joe treated every player the same and helped him in his career.

Multiple montages on the jumbotrons. Again, the BJC needs to upgrade and I guess they are planning that, but they need to get on that.

Michael Robinson – Representing the ‘00s. I thought the place might erupt into chants for him, but not quite. There was one M-ROB!!!!! out of the crowd. He flew 11 hours from pro bowl practice to be there. He said he told the NFL “don’t make me chose, because if I have to, I’m going to State College.” The theme of his speech was &quot;Joe never lied to me.&quot; He talked about how he was immature when he came to PSU and how Joe helped him become a man and that Joe told him “someday, you’ll be either a pro-bowl fullback or tailback.” And now he is. He also talked about how Joe never put the pressure on him to win even though Joe’s job was in the balance in 2005 before MRob led the team to a BigTen title and Orange Bowl win over FSU and finished #3 after four out of five losing seasons. I think he is my favorite football player ever.

Mike Mauti – representing the current team and the 2010s. He was clearly nervous and overwhelmed by the magnitude of the moment but did a fantastic job. Very funny. He talked about how when he made his official visit with his dad that he hadn’t planned to commit that weekend but then as soon as Joe asked him “what do you think?” He said “oh, I’m here!” His brother and dad also played for PSU, so it was appropriate.

Jay Paterno was last – really, really, fantastic speech about a lot of different things. Many ovations. He didn’t really address the scandal but he said “Rest assured, my father died with a clean conscience” and that went over very well. He also led the audience in the Lord’s prayer. He said Joe would lead the team in that because all of the pronouns are plural. Very moving. He was very composed. It’s impossible to summarize but it's one of the best talks, eulogy or other, I've ever heard. (I think Jay could now run for office here and win, except that he’s a Democrat and I don’t think a Democrat can win this district even if he were Jesus Christ, because this district is gerrymandered in favor of the GOP. Still, everyone loves him now. Then again, politics is probably beneath him, really.) 

Then a single trumpet player from the Blue Band played a slow version of the fight song. No dry eyes. Talk about a big moment for a musician.

Then a spontaneous half-ass “we are, Penn State” and that was it. 



The weather couldn’t be much worse today. 40 degrees and driving rain. Good thing it wasn’t at Beaver Stadium as some proposed.

Other than the speakers, a few luminaries I noticed in the audience were Darryl Clark, Matt McGloin, and Urban Meyer. Class of UM to show. Not sure if Bill O’Brien was there, but I know he was around for a lot of stuff this week. They didn’t really pan the camera onto anyone very much but the family so I’m not sure who all else was there. The governor was conspicuously not there, as has been reported, but I think Rendell was there. He was at the funeral, I know that. I didn’t see Pres Rodney Erickson or AD Dave Joyner, but they were probably there. That's all very touchy right now with a lot of people so its best that they didn't speak.


Several hundred people stood up when Jay asked for all former and current players to stand. I think some VIPs came to the funeral but then not today or vice versa. It seemed like there were a lot more students in the crowd than I would have expected given that the tickets were only via available online crapshoot, but maybe being on the PSU network helped? Maybe that’s how we got them. I don’t know. It was through ticketmaster so I figured the server is in India or something. Who knows?</description>
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            <description>I used to follow Rouen when I lived in France, and they went bust.  Then I moved to Switzerland and latched on to Xamax, now they have gone bust in very sad circumstances.  I clearly need to stay away from Watford - I hope the fact that I went to watch them on Boxing Day will not jinx them.

Not sure what I will do now. Switching to another Swiss first division club isn't an option (I have three within half an hour's train ride of where I live but I wouldn't do it).  More Saturdays and Sundays in the mountains, probably.</description>
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            <title>Who Says They Don't Do Humour? - by: Kettle</title>
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            <description> &quot;You stupid idiots! I’ve sacrificed my lunch break for a bad joke,&quot; added Bunyamin Divarci. &quot;Those responsible must feel the consequences.&quot; 

Well, don't take such trivial things so fucking seriously, then. You touchy fucker.</description>
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            <description>ah fuck off.

I dont live there, and dont want to, but I miss the breakfast... which is utterly, loathsome. (loathesome?)

Fry everything. It makes things taste better, and then you go... ' hang on, I am a chef', and you tend to be bitter and stupid.

Haggis isnt Scottish, and isnt necessarily a 'Thane o' Glamis', but they are unbelievably tasty. Therein lies the problem.

My 'Boudin noir' is better than any chef, anywhere. So, you know, 'fade away and radiate'.</description>
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            <description> Duncan Gardner wrote: 
 Ha ha. Bar Nimeta in Tallinn (http://www.go-eesti.blogspot.com) I think?

Meanwhile, a very pissed John Delaney gets a hand to his taxi by two old mates:

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/delaney.jpg 

Are you in the middle, DG?
Cos, otherwise, you are halfway cute.</description>
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            <title>Boro's 90 year-old scout - by: All New George</title>
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            <description>90 year old scout? Stand aside, there's a Daily Mail-wielding mob heading this way.</description>
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            <description> ursus arctos wrote: 
 Reports today that Chagaev has been arrested. 

He seemed such a nice man too.

Fucks sake, he makes Romanov look like Jack Walker.</description>
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            <description>Indeed.

The &quot;DOM-TOM&quot; clubs drawn away are almost always drawn in and around Paris, so as to ensure maximum expat support, while those that are drawn at home get to welcome lower league clubs that are thrilled at a subsidised winter trip to the Antilles, Tahiti, Reunion, etc.</description>
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            <description>We'll make a Cryptic Crossworder of you yet.</description>
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            <description>I thought that Flips were going out of business?</description>
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            <description>Nice quote from a Franchise Fan regarding the Parliamentary Debate that Franchise should drop the Dons from their name - 

&quot;The [FA] commission that allowed the move in the first place recommended that we kept the identity of the old Wimbledon and [club owner] Pete [Winkleman] did that when he called us the Milton Keynes Dons. 

The Dons is our identity, it's where we came from and it's wrong to just take the club and decide that you don't want to be involved with what's happened in the past.&quot;

Identity??</description>
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            <title>Antonin Panenka biopic, London 21 Feb - by: Purves Grundy</title>
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            <description>Free showing of a semi-fictionalised (?) biography of the man who left Sepp Maier with football pie all over his shirt. London, 21 Feb, if anyone fancies it. (http://london.czechcentres.cz/programme/travel-events/doll-against-the-rest-of-the-world/ )</description>
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            <description>Scott is the film itself, really. It's a magnificent performance in a movie that's a solid and well-made, always watchable affair. The trouble with Schaffner's style is that there's no style at all. It was a trait he shared with a director like Richard Fleischer in that while the professionalism and know-how to put together a satisfying and even fine piece of story-telling was there, the visual flair and distinctiveness that comes with, say, a Spielberg, a Ford or a Hitchcock was never in evidence. Schaffner made one of my all-time favourites, Planet of the Apes, yet the elements that made that film iconic were already there, it just needed a director of Schaffner's integrity to put them all together, which he did. Would you recognise a Franklin J. Schaffner film by how it looked, moved or felt? Nope, nor would you Fleischer's movies. But that's not to say all of them were duffers.

Anyhow, Schaffner made The Boys From Brazil, which is a loopy, mad affair and all the more watchable for it.

And he had Jerry Goldsmith on hand to provide musical backing, so that's another plus for a geek like me.</description>
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            <description> Purves Grundy wrote: 
 That is unquestionably the best thing ever. 

This tops it I feel. (http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z424/the_ref/15s6mg7.jpg)

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z424/the_ref/15s6mg7.jpg</description>
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            <description>Moitié-moitié aka Moonlight Shadow.</description>
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            <description>Have you been in a coma for the last two months?</description>
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            <description>http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/javaImages/7b/b5/0,,10335~7058811,00.jpg
Tyrone from Corrie

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ieqsyxnYlNo/S69_MacmnOI/AAAAAAAAJsU/Vc66ezihoXo/s1600/tyrone+in+vest.jpg

Darcy Blake</description>
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            <description>Great thread on [URL=http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/owbs8/how_i_accidentally_trolled_the_spanish_press/]Reddit[/URL] where a 10 minute photoshop of Atletico Madrid's kit gets taken as real, and even made into an actual (fake) shirt.</description>
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            <title>How about Woolwich Hotspur? - by: Sundeporino</title>
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            <description>Theres no way WHU can afford to walk away and allow Spurs to stroll onto their &quot;manor&quot; and hoover up all that lovely Canary Wharf corporate box cash.</description>
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            <title>Broken &amp; Late Ltd: Britain's Railways - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,618492/#619333</link>
            <description>No.

Shit, busted as a wannabee. I did live in Custom House for a month though. Must have been near a Dyer at some point.</description>
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            <title>Football in Turkey 2011-12 (Match Fixing Included) - by: Antepli Ejderha</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,546740/limit,20/limitstart,160/#619300</link>
            <description>The curse of IBB strikes again.

Bursa Galatasaray is behind closed doors, so that trip is off.

Eskisehir by train is doable though.

Not like the TFF to be late with the fixtures MM!</description>
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            <title>Great Goal Games - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
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            <description>Rooney's brilliant individual strike came after two one-twos. Van der sar didn't see messi's shot until relatively late because he swerved it quite sharply around vidic. It was a great goal by messi.</description>
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            <title>Happy new job! - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description>Bravo sir. Now, turn it off and turn it back on again. We'll make a sys-admin of you yet.</description>
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            <title>Portsmouth owe the taxman £1.6m - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,617998/limit,20/limitstart,20/#619279</link>
            <description>I agree.

Just wondering how we can flesh your bond idea out.</description>
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            <title>Great Names for Pets - by: Gangster Octopus</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,619092/#619250</link>
            <description>My parents had a cat called Mouse.  I say &quot;had&quot;.  It's them wot's dead, not the cat...</description>
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            <title>Art Director Test Part II - by: Worn Old Motorbike</title>
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            <description>Spectral disorder, you figure?</description>
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            <title>Happy birthday, Mr Bowie - by: Bored of Education</title>
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            <description> Yeah, I love 'Time' too, &quot;the snip-ah in the brain&quot;, but to be fair if you don't know the song those lyrics do look rubbish 

I know the song very very well, like a lot of Bowie stuff. Unlike a lot of his stuff, however, I find the lyrics and that particular couple of lines terrible and that he is trying too hard there. It's no big deal, just a song I avoid. Bizarrely, I love &quot;Looking like you're Che Guevara&quot; as it is pretty bad but in a Bolan rubbish lyric sort of way</description>
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            <title>Netflix is here at last - by: Ginger Yellow</title>
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            <description>Trust me, Inca, there's an unbelievable amount of utter crap on Lovefilm's streaming catalogue. Netflix doesn't come close. I've seen a handful of real stinkers, but something like 90% of Lovefilm's streaming catalogue is stinkers.</description>
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            <description>Woohoo! THQ have all but confirmed that they're working on a sequel to Company of Heroes, after months of dropping hints: The company’s five internal studios are developing games aligned to several of THQ’s key franchises, including the upcoming launch of UFC® Undisputed™ 3 and Darksiders® II, as well as  Company of Heroes , inSANE, Saints Row, Warhammer 40,000, and the new title from Patrice Désilets and his team. </description>
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            <description> This Malky thing. I have lived and worked in Scotland for twelve years and have never come across anyone named Malky. Strange, that. 

isn't it a corruption of malachi which is not an uncommon name in donegal.</description>
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            <description>Yes. He is.</description>
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            <description>How was Cave of Forgotten Dreams not nominated for documentary?</description>
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            <description>Did not see the Tigers coming on this one. Prince to the Tigers for 9 years/$214million.</description>
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            <description>Next plug.

Chapter 3 is finally online (http://gentlemanauthor.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/the-music-in-the-caverns-chapter-3/)! Chapter 4  will  be faster coming, honest.

Any feedback on these is more than welcome, by the way.</description>
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            <description>Gail Devers, Barcelona Olympics 1992. 

The 100m hurdle expert was also entered for the 100m sprint. She won gold in the sprint, pipping the more-fancied Gwen Torrance, Merlene Ottey &amp; Irina Privalova. She looked good for becoming the first person to win an Olympic 100m/100m Hurdle double, and was clear in front as she approached the final hurdle. 

Then...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP1L-41c4cc</description>
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            <title>Music To Help Me Rest My Aching Bones - by: atlanticjaxx</title>
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            <description>Since we're doing Carl &amp; The Passions, how about..

The Beach Boys - ' All This Is That  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfeH44ZMtWM)'</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Battle of little big clubs: FA Trophy 2011-12 - by: Seven Saxon Kings</title>
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            <description>It's the sort of figure that makes you wonder if it wasn't actually below 1,000, but they bumped it a little to avoid the bad publicity.</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Belgian Football 2010-2011 - by: StephL</title>
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            <description>Yes, RRC Péruwelz moved to Mouscron at the start of last season (in division 4), changed their name, won their group and are now top of their division 3 group.</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>stewart downing is going to give me an aneurysm - by: bewaldeth</title>
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            <description>Can't agree, Hobbes - Johnson has had a couple of reasonable games, but he's still bloody awful, defensively - esp. compared to Kelly. I'll cut him a bit of slack for the first leg of the semi v. City where Dalglish played him on the wrong side and he was comprehensively skinned by Micah Richards, but he was terrible again in his proper position on Saturday and it wasn't the first time - the only difference this weekend was that the whole team had a 'mare defensively, whereas the others have been generally solid - so I agree with you on the general point that defence isn't the problem.</description>
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            <title>Do you still buy a programme? - by: Zuma Kahuna</title>
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            <description>Do any clubs have eProgrammes?</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>One hole of thousands in Internet piracy plugged - by: My Name Is Ian</title>
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            <description>That's rather the point, isn't it? I was looking at the possibility of backing up 2TB of data to a cloud just a couple of weeks ago, but I won't be bothering with that now. Better to wait until HDs come back down in price, buy a couple and NAS them to keep everything safe. *touches wood*

I only really download things that aren't commercially available and there is a lot that isn't, for varying reasons - most often to do with complexity of royalties payments. There have been a good number of TV programmes made that will never see the light of day on DVD for this reason and that may never even be repeated again.

To be honest, if there is a 40 or 50 year old series that has never been released on DVD, I'd have no compunction about downloading that illegally. Almost all broadcasters, as far as I can see, made a pretty bad job of maintaining their archives and have done likewise in releasing them commercially. 

I haven't watched an illegal sports feed for at least two or three years, though.</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Petrol shortage in SE England - by: Bill Poster</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,618749/#618787</link>
            <description>Mmm. That is worse than I thought. I had a tip-off on Friday to &quot;fill your tank&quot; this last weekend. I ignored it as it happened, as I hate all the panic-buying. But I see why they said it now.</description>
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            <title>Dawkins is a cunt - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
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            <description>Oh yeah, the fact the Coalition outsourced fewer than half the civil servants Labour did in its &quot;best&quot; year (2008), didn't stop Francis Maude going on about the &quot;end of the presumption the state does everything&quot;.</description>
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            <description> Why at Last! wrote: 
 But why do we hear 1760 Hz, the double octave, as closer to equivalence than 1320, which is an octave and a fifth? 

Because Jesus wants us to.</description>
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            <description>Hands up who was tempted to send danielmak a PM?</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description> Gangster Octopus wrote: 
  john riches wrote: 
 Withdean sure was leafy 
Where's the mud?

And welcome. 

Ta for the welcome; many years away from WSC - ex-subscriber, and even went on the 1994 CAF trip to Tunisia - nice to be here...</description>
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            <title>This is the way [to Disneyland]--step inside - by: Renart</title>
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            <description>There's a special &quot;Goths go to Disneyland&quot; day called &quot;Bats Day.&quot; Many pictures here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/batsday). 

I wonder if they will put this shirt back into production. My father-in-law is a Disney fanatic and would probably love to have this. (Or maybe he'd buy it for me. I'd wear it!)</description>
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            <title>The New Thatcher Movie - by: Gangster Octopus</title>
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            <description>Inevitably Streep's been nominated for an Oscar.  More symbolically, the film's only been nominated in the Best Actress and Best Make-Up categories...</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description>Congrats Crusoe!</description>
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            <title>where do we rate the Marvellous one? - by: jasoñ voorhees</title>
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            <description>GO - That's one of them. I seem to remember also writing one where I said the match actually smoked crack. TG also references the Hearns-Duran below that one.

PG - Sorry for the spoilers, but thanks.</description>
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            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,613054/#618704</link>
            <description>This thread has already been started. (http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,602471/)</description>
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            <title>Homeland - by: steveeeeeeeee</title>
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            <description>Watched episode 2 last night. Far more pedestrian than the first one, but still good all the same.

The introduction of the high-class call-girl/partner of the Arabian prince seemed to be the key plot development. Claire Danes assurance that nothing bad will happen means her days are numbered, for sure. I was surprised she stayed alive until the end of the episode.</description>
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            <description>Cheers for those links Sam, some great photos - thought you might be the one to save this from being a nil thread!</description>
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            <title>&quot;you have killed me in the mixed zone&quot; - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
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            <description>hahahaha kevchenko that's brill. 

Hobbes, I think misunderstand me. It is going to be a long time before the manchester derby is going to be seen as the be all and end all match that eclipses all other football in the world, never mind england. It could be some time indeed.</description>
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            <title>Bands you should get but don't - by: Reed John</title>
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            <description>I have the same feeling about Radiohead. I liked a lot of the first few albums but, sadly, the &quot;self-indulgent bollocks&quot; tag does seem appropriate for the more recent stuff.</description>
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            <description> Incandenza wrote: 
  Analogue Bubblebath II wrote: 
 Cocksucker Blues only ever got released on a German compilation in the 1980s.

You can find it here:
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/03/smut_mp3s.html 

And the film has never been officially released, has it? 

To the best of my knowledge, no. But one of the great things about the ability to make excellent copies and quickly on computers is that some good copies of this DVD now circulate, whereas in the VHS days, it was hard to come by a good quality image.</description>
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            <title>All purpose sports prediction thread/comp! - by: El Tel</title>
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            <description>Accounting for this thread + the wild card picks in the NFL one:

Inca - 5/6 - 83%
Jason - 8/11 - 72%
ET - 6/11 - 54%


This weekends games, the tough to pick/derby games in the FA Cup 4th round*:

Everton v Fulham
Liverpool v Man Utd
QPR v Chelsea
Sunderland v Boro
Arsenal v Villa

*  Tie winner, so result after replay if one is neccessary.</description>
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            <title>You get it all in the Irish Premiership - by: waterlooroader</title>
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            <description>A windy day on the Bann: Who'da thunk it?</description>
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            <title>E-mail sending scam messages - by: dances with sheep</title>
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            <description>This happened with my AOL account, which ironically is remarkably spam free.  I changed the password and that solved the problem.</description>
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            <title>Fuck off, IBS - by: Bryaniesta</title>
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            <description>Every three months or so I have a few days when most food goes straight through me. I end up having to eat instant noodles and crackers and drink cordial drinks for about 24 hours in order to restore some kind of basic equillibrium. And then I can go back to eating whatever the hell I want. Not sure if it is IBS, but it's annoying. Gets the energy levels down because food isn't digested. Then you need a couple of days to recover. Used to wreak havoc with my football.

There was a time I broke up with a girl so I went for a long jog into some fields. When I got to the fields suddenly my stomach started cramping. So I had to sit there in the field and go right there. That's when the thunder, lightning and hailstones started. Freezing cold, wet, smelling like shit and newly single. I couldn't stop laughing.

My father spent a lot of time on the loo when we were growing up. Usually with the door open so he could hear the sport on TV.</description>
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            <title>Query for IT types - by: Ginger Yellow</title>
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            <description>In this day and age, why is manual port forwarding still necessary in some situations? Surely it should be automatic, or at least one button press using the equivalent of UAC. And why is UPnP usually more trouble than it's worth? And, I suppose, more generally, why is networking still so fucking complicated?</description>
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            <title>If Leicester win 3-1 tonight - by: moolag</title>
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            <description>make that 2-0</description>
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            <title>A new era for Croatia? - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
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            <description>Possibly a new one for Iceland too. Said to be keen provided they can get fishing safeguards.</description>
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            <title>I love the Heineken Cup - by: El Tel</title>
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            <description>Home teams won 80% of their quarter final matches in the last 5 years of the HEC (16/20) as per BT's earlier point.</description>
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            <description>Always. Younger employees churn through like crazy because &quot;I mean, there's so much bullshit...&quot; etc etc. It seems it's only the older types who've worked at other places, where bullshit isn't the only shit you deal with, that see the value in the place.

Also, people tend to move around a lot in our business after they've worked on the same account for three or four years. Here, if they see you getting bored/itchy, they move you onto a different piece of business.</description>
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            <description>They probably last longer than mine</description>
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            <description> Convergent evolution is sometimes given as a basis for suggseting that Sci-Fi depictions of aliens might not be that stupid after all despite their obvious anthropomorphism (bipedal, binocular, etc). 

Binocular has the smallest number of eyes required for 3 dimensional vision.</description>
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            <description> The series didn't half typecast the main actors though. Mick Lally had a brief part in 'Alexander' as a messenger, and when he came on screen historywoman and me both shouted,

&quot;It's Miley!&quot; 

Mick lally actually sells alexander bucephalus.</description>
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            <description>A Separation has to be the film of the year for me, it shows so much of the conflict between gender and class, an excellent film.</description>
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            <description>Not in the States but the film may be helped by the strong possibility that Thomas is going to win Celebrity Big Brother</description>
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            <description>Anyone seen Ralph Fiennes directorial debut yet? Have to say I thought it was magnificently done. Terrific contemporary adaptation, with fine use of rolling news channel, including cameo from Jon Snow. Superb cast, Fiennes looks terrifying throughout and wonderful support from Brian Cox and Vanessa Redgrave in particular. Hell, I even could put up with James Nesbitt for a change.</description>
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            <description>So, does Neil Robertson have much of a profile in Australia - suspect he's more widely recognised in the UK and Ireland than in his homeland?</description>
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            <description>Last night (actually, it was early this afternoon) I finished the Edugyan book Half Blood Blues. Jumps back and forth between the Nazi invasion of Paris and the summer of '92. Centred around a handful of black jazz musicians who flee Berlin for Paris, and then Paris for their lives. I can't say much more about it. But it's got history and it's got music and it's got feeling. What a great tale. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Don't let the time-lag between my starting it and finishing it reflect badly on the book. Someone gave me an e-reader for Christmas and that's been distracting me. Just now started Lord Jim by Conrad, free courtesy of Project Gutenberg.</description>
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            <description>In future, please use this (http://occupykevinmyers.wordpress.com/about/) instead.</description>
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            <description>I would recommend the following books about boxing. The Last Great Fight by Joe Layden which focuses on James Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson. A wonderful read about how that monumental upset came to pass.

Four Kings by George Kimball which is a brilliant insight into the legendary matches between the four legend of the 80's. Hearns, Hagler, Duran and Leonard. Great little facts in this book like how a college football team held up the ring in one of the fights to stop it collapsing.

The last recommendation is fairly obvious but that does not make it any less compelling. Cinderella Man by Jeremy Schaap. Braddock's fairytale run is superbly captured here but i also enjoyed the fact that his champion, Max Baer, is not portrayed like he was in the movie. I actually found that part of the movie disappointing. I didnt think a pantomime villain was needed. Braddock's story alone should have done the trick.</description>
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            <description>Hey man you're talkin' bout Flo and Eddie:

http://www.utopiaartists.com/pics/turtles.jpg

aka Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan. After the demise of The Turtles they joined The Mothers of Invention and became a kind of musical Cheech and Chongesque comedy duo. They also sang back-up on a gazillion records, including T-Rex's  Get it On.  Still touring today</description>
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            <description>(Applause for both of WaL's last efforts.)

barmecidal - wishing to kill incompetent pub staff
purfle - a poorly-stifled trump</description>
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            <description>I remember the result in August well, Nef. It's the only time Oxford have won at Swindon in my lifetime, so it's a bit of a 'where were you when...?' moment. Thus, in the last 37 years, Oxford beating Swindon at the County Ground has occured with the frequency of members of the Beatles being shot and Princesses of Hearts perishing in car accidents.

As for Constable, I'm pleased the deal didn't go through. I'm not sure Swindon really need another striker, and any player signed from Oxford would face huge pressure to perform. I tend to think the whole fiasco was an attempt by Di Canio to unsettle a promotion rival's best player. 

Di Canio has bought a LOT of players since he joined, with the board backing his every decision. Some of these signings have already been moved on. Chairman Jeremy Wray has said the board have &quot;learned from previous mistakes&quot;, presumably alluding to the sale of players after our Play Off Final appearance on 2010. However, those of us with memories that go back a little further recall the graver mistakes of gambling shit loads of money on players in an attempt to get promoted. 

According to that water-tight source of information - rumours on Twitter - Constable had actually agreed to enter into talks with Swindon but requested a few days to think about it all, at which point Di Canio pulled the plug on the whole thing. I'm not sure I believe that though.</description>
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            <description> If you had read your 'Biggles' books, you would know all this. 

Are you addressing me? Did you spill my pint?

(Captain WE Johns was only a lieutenant - discovering this has caused me years of trauma.)</description>
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            <description> waterlooroader wrote: 
  Tubby Isaacs wrote: 
 And added to that, without lots more members in the private sector, the union link isn't very good electorally for Labour.  This makes Labour so paranoid that the unions don't actually get decent influence anyway. 

Can anybody tell me why affiliated trade unions continue to donate money to Labour? Around 85% of Labour's cash now comes from the affiliated unions, yet we are still told to accept attacks on our pay, terms and conditions and the party has taken a viciously right-wing stance on a number of issues. 

Milliband &amp; Balls don't seem to realise that when people are pissed off with endless Tory cutbacks that are clearly not working, you are going to struggle to win support by saying that a Labour government would do essentially the same thing 

This was a point Kevin Macguire made - why spend millions with labour, when spending zero gets you to the same position for free with the Government.</description>
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            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,617996/#617999</link>
            <description>Oh, and NB, on researching this I came across the fact that top of the league, after 22 games, in 1950-51 (at Christmas in fact), were ... Middlesbrough. 

There you go, smoggies, hope that makes up for me demeaning your kits on my other recent thread.</description>
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            <description> Why at Last! wrote: 
  Bringing It All Back Home  has to come into this, I think. 

Top of the list I'd say, with  Pet Sounds  not far behind.* And  Self Portrait  would close to the top of Stumpy's.

*and  Astral Weeks. </description>
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            <description> Sean of the Shed wrote: 
 Anyone who thinks a game cannot turn on one decision only has to look at what happened in this and other games.
I was at Tamworth v Barrow yesterday, and despite having a player sent off, Tamworth were dominating the game in the second half having gone 2-1 up in the second half. The ref awarded a foul in our favour and proceeded to book a Barrow player. Unfortunately he booked their number 3, when it was their number 22 who had committed the foul, and he was already on a yellow and should have been sent off. Everyone had seen this but the ref and the lino it would seem. Barrow kept 11 players on the field and they immediately subbed the number 22, which would make you imagine that they knew they had got away with it and didn't want to risk any further reaction. You could see this had utterly deflated our players and Barrow went on  to score twice in 5 minutes to win the game.
Likewise in the Huddersfield v Brentford match, once the goal had gone in it was followed by two more goals in the next 9 minutes, turning the game on its head.
 Another example is the Fulham v Newcastle game, with Newcastle 1-0 up and in control of the game, when the ref gave that ridiculous penalty award to let Fulham pull level. Fulham then banged in 3 more goals in the next 16 minutes to compound the agony. 
It's easy to say that the players shouldn't let it get to them, but just think how deflated and uninspired you feel at work if you get grief and earache for something that is out of your control.
One bad decision by the ref can affect the game far beyond that moment. 

You write that as its a bad thing.</description>
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            <description>Stewart Lee's take (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/22/stewart-lee-david-cameron-pinewood-film?mobile-r)</description>
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            <description> Rufus T. Firefly wrote: 
 As I wrote, this sport should be a meritocracy and if a reserve team eventually works its way up the ladder and knocks out a Football League club then who is to say that is undeserved? 
Would these clubs:
a) Be financially independent of their A team, subject to the same market pressures as the rest of the teams in their league?
b) Be willing to work their way through from the bottom league?

The answer to both is no, so in no way would it be a meritocracy.</description>
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            <description>I was keeping an eye on the Stalybridge score today as one of our more promising youngsters — Djeny Bembo-Leta, brother of one former and one current Stalybridge player — has joined them on loan.  They were 4-0 up at half-time, 5-4 down in the second, and pulled it back to 5-5 for full-time.  What on earth happened there?</description>
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            <description>Thanks, everyone.

My heart is set on Norway.

Anyone house-swapped?</description>
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            <description>Yeh good article and some interesting allegations made. No names, then?</description>
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            <description>Surely already seen by the bulk of OTFers, and not exactly contemporary, but an old favourite:


http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llqdocTEEm1qdt4v0o1_500.jpg</description>
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            <description>http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmu5g4LJmh1qlwzh9o1_250.jpg

http://www.gervinhosforehead.tumblr.com</description>
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            <description>Good thread to which I had more to contribute.

Gloucestershire village cricket, a funny mixture of very posh and surprisingly rough people, threw up a few. Cheltenham Police had a minefield of a pitch one year. The only thing that could have stopped it misbehaving was news that the TCCB Inspector of Pitches was on his way. We did well to have enough teeth to eat the tea with.</description>
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            <description>top of the list of songs not played on rte in the 1960's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoeySa_fZj0)

a singer nearly as filthy and raunchy as the quenn of sex Bridie gallagher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4R7E4mNX5E) another woman snatched away from us too soon</description>
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            <description>http://www.nme.com ews/various-artists/61559

May I draw your attention to para. 4, and to the highlighted quote.

Side-effcts: may cause uncontrollable giggling.</description>
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            <description>Well. Just been over to the allotment society's trading hut to collect bulging bagsful of seet potatoes. Chitting ahoy!</description>
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            <description> Atalanta - Juventus 2 (0-1) 
Cagliari - Fiorentina X
Palermo - Genoa 1
Siena - Napoli 2
 Inter - Lazio 1 (2-0) </description>
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            <description>Yeah, that's what I meant by &quot;inflict the maximum emotional pain&quot;.</description>
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            <description>Some fine recommendations thus far, to which I'd like to add Anna Massey.

She very rarely had the lead in anything but was the glue that held together even the most mediocre offering. She brought a believability to any character she played and I was always drawn to those big eyes of hers. I suspect I was not alone.</description>
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            <description>I read the book once and it was brilliant and, in some ways, better than the film.  Funnily enough, I thought that Jaws was released in the greatest year for film ever, 1977 but it was two years earlier

 The dunes that Stevie and Chrissy run down at the start look just like the ones at Formby. Blimey, that could have been a different film. 

Part of &quot;Lawrence Of Arabia&quot; was filmed on the dunes of Porthcawl and detracted nought from the film so I think it would have been OK</description>
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            <description> Amor de Cosmos wrote: 
 I wonder if it'll be running in tandem with  Mad Men  again? 

That's another series I've slept on, and fear I will have to spend another solid week catching up on.

life is just so, unfair, man.</description>
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            <description>A lot of pop / 'R&amp;B' records are produced with the likes of David Guetta, Benny Bannassi, who are basically electro house dj / producers. Rhianna, Chris Brown, Black Eyed peas, Nelly Furtado, Snoop Dogg, Nicole Schwerzinger,even J Lo getting  in on the act now. 

It has taken decades for 'rave' culture to hit the States and it finally went overground in the last few years. So I see it as a reflection of that. 

I mean even Jay Z mentions mdma in 'New York'. It's a shame that for the most part it's basically watered down shite, but I guess that's the nature of the beast.

In the UK, the house / dance music 'scene' has been prevalent in pop from the word go - Stock Aitken Waterman latched on pretty quick, hence the Reynolds Girls 'I'd Rather Jack'. Even Rick Astley's hits were set to a house music beat.

Through the years the BPM of the club scene has been reflected in pop. Acts like KLF weren't really pop music (you'd probably call them a trance outfit) - it's just that their music got in to the charts because during that period, that music was the mainstream. Back then there were probably less BPMs on your average trance track. However at the same time in the clubs there was an abysmal sub genre - 'happy hardcore' which was extremely fast paced. Way faster than the vast majority of club music today.

Trance producer William Orbit produced Madonna's Ray of Light, which reflected the trance sound coming out of the clubs during that time (faster BPMs), then for her last album (?)she used Stuart Price - again, the electro production echoing what was being heard in the clubs back then.

Nowadays it's way more fragmented. Richard X, who produced Girls Aloud and the Sugababes used a drum and bass beat in their first single, Sound of the Underground, and then electro / house production. It could be that he influenced the current American sound.

So in answer to your question, it has gotten faster overall, but I think the pace has generally reflected the sound of 'underground'.</description>
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            <description>Anyway: mas. (http://www.usatoday.com ews/washington/judicial/story/2012-01-18/supreme-court-death-row/526369)</description>
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            <description>The Fishing Party had me roaring with laughter the scenes on the boat are TV gold.</description>
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            <description>To be honest, there is a huge chance that clubs/bars in Lisbon will have more going on that at Optimus Alive. In terms of getting the most out of it, you're probably just best avoiding the place and enjoying Bairro Alto/Cais de Sodre on Saturday night.

Seriously, avoid the camp-site at all costs.

edit: Lisbon to hobbes! Lisbon to hobbes! The Cure will be headlining Saturday night. They're hugely popular in Portugal, so expect the limited 3 day tickets to sell out soon-ish.</description>
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            <description>The Wedding Present made an industry out of this of course, with their one-single-per-month ruse in 1992, although they undermined it a bit by releasing them as two compilation albums later on.  Although it was all good fun, seeing them on TOTP every month (though sometimes just 30 seconds of a video), it was all a bit lazy and not many of the singles stand up that well on their own.</description>
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            <description>World Soccer's appearance on its own thread reminds me of that time Rod Liddle popped up.</description>
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            <title>Does the fact that Arsenal's owner ... - by: Rogin the sunlounger fan</title>
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            <description>Yes but he's replacing HOME (not &quot;away&quot;) NFL games for St. Louis with Wembley games, that's what I meant by empty stadia back in St. Louis, in September..</description>
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            <description>I believe the RCMP still does reasonably well out of US visitors on I5/Hwy 99 who read 90k as 90mph.</description>
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            <description>2% looks less than shit in the circumstances. I'd be quite surprised at that. Even if the Tories friends in business suddenly discover &quot;green shoots&quot; and all.

Are private credit cards in Britain going to maxed out to reach this 2% growth? 

I still can't believe we'll get away with our combination of private and public debt. Even if a lot of the debt is mortgages, so attached to an asset as well.</description>
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            <title>The continuing adventures of Mr Sheen - by: Ginger Yellow</title>
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            <description> I suppose we should be thankful we got 3 seasons of Arrested, 

We're getting four. And a movie.</description>
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            <description> Gangster Octopus wrote: 
 Newer news:

 Fleetwood Town tell the BBC they have not complained to Conference over the Darlington team, they only checked to see if game was on  

I had my doubts. Anything you spot on Twitter first has to be taken with a pinch of salt.</description>
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            <description>When I was 12 I knew and could locate on a map the 20 largest cities in Africa. These days I'm not sure I know what an Africa is.</description>
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            <title>Wolves v Birmingham - 105 minutes to go - by: Cavalry Trouser Tips</title>
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            <description>Ah shit man - sorry to hear that. Hope she/you both get something sorted soon.</description>
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            <description>Oh. Shit. Really, really sorry.</description>
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            <description>...surgically removed at the same time... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/19/manchester-united-david-de-gea-eye-surgery)</description>
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            <description>I've just scored this for the princely sum of £4.95 from Amazon.
Get the fuck in!
The very thought of watching the [I]Bobby Trendy[/I] scene again is making me laugh already, plus there's something about episode 3 being banned on US and UK television which is on the DVD.One can only imagine the horror.
Any other fans out there?</description>
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            <description>I know! Truly great comedy writing. I was late for work because I lost ten minutes cackling maniacally at it this morning.</description>
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            <title>It's all about the shirt - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description>You know Warrior are a subsidiary of New Balance, JB? They're not entirely unheard of around the world.</description>
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            <description>Mention of Eden Hazard reminds me of Micky, the former Spurs midfielder who became a cab driver. You know that counter that goes up when you're on a taxi journey, is that a sort of reverse amortisation?</description>
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            <description>The craziest thing to me from all of this is that Swizz Beatz was the CEO.</description>
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            <description>Cheers for that. They are odd. They are like the cheapo ones in Argos but they are quite neat. It's a very odd stadium all round, isn't it? From the patches of turf everywhere to the running track</description>
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            <description> The Exploding Vole wrote: 
  RobM wrote: 
 We (Musselburgh Athletic) used to play in the Co-op Funeral Director's Cup 
I like this. Particularly if it really was just the one funeral director. A bit like the Barclay's Premiership, sponsored by Barclay Milleson III or some such. 

Yeah, I'm pretty shite with apostrophes sometimes.</description>
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            <description>It sounds similar to, but not exactly the same as, The Starlight Barking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlight_Barking)  by Dodie Smith. A very different sequel to 101 Dalmatians. The mention of Primrose Hill jogged my memory. I read it when I was a kid and there are some key scenes on Primrose Hill, which I liked especially as we used to often go and stay with a friend of the family's just close by. 

But it involves dogs mostly and, as far as I can remember, no dolphins.</description>
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            <description>The existence of a running track, coupled with  no warm-up track  meaning the stadium was never once used for an athletics event.</description>
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            <title>The worst advice you ever heard - by: The Exploding Vole</title>
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            <description>Yes ... just ... yes.</description>
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            <title>Fergie's getting desperate - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
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            <description>ah harbinger, but everyone who goes to manage chelsea knows that they are going to a sugar daddy club. It means that they are going to be paid a ridiculous amount of money, and you are going to have a much more expensive squad than the club can otherwise afford. 

You go there for a short time, you go there to lick the chairmans arse, and you go there because you have a higher chance of winning something. You don't go there because you want control, and anyone who tries is either a moron or a maniac. It's explicitly the owners gig. The downside of this is that the chairman is always going to be an interfering cunt. This is par for the course. 

Man utd are run on entirely different lines, and trying to maximise their profits by minimizing their costs. So they are extremely unlikely to go out and buy a trophy player to dump on the managers, because trophy players like that are obscenely expensive. 

Instead you are supposed to buy for the long term, and develop players. It's the same at arsenal, and it should be the same at spurs. 

Mourinho has never worked in this system, and only spent longer than two years at a club once, and that ended with him being fired. His entire modus operandi is incompatible with staying somewhere for a long time. He goes in, buys players, takes the credit for success, and leaves with his brand inflated. He doesn't care if the club catches fire after he leaves.  

Man utd will want their next manager to stay for 30 years ideally, not two. 

Basically, you chose what type of manager you want to be, and you try and find the club that best suits you.</description>
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            <title>This might be significant - Safe Standing - by: Diable Rouge</title>
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            <description>Villa Park (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/19/villa-park-terraces) mooting limited terracing.</description>
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            <title>Ready, Steady, Wiki! - by: Incandenza</title>
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            <description>http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/images/sopa-opera-count.png</description>
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            <title>What is happening in this picture - by: Valentino Mazzola</title>
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            <description>Phil Jones must be the Gary Moore of the league, that's some serious mugging.</description>
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            <description>&quot;Rehagel, Rehagel, Rehagel, Rehagel,
Love, Love, Love Plus One...&quot;</description>
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            <title>Lodzu goes to London - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description> Lodzu's proposed dates are doing nothing to help my paranoia. I can't make either night. 

Mission accomplished. 
</description>
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            <title>America's team - Dallas Cowboys history re-written - by: Torcida</title>
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            <description>And a reminder that this will be the final game in the careers of MARSHALL FAULK, MIKE ALSTOTT, JOEY GALLOWAY and DEXTER COAKLEY among others!</description>
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            <title>Teacher Quality (mostly for Bored) - by: Muukalainen</title>
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            <description>A bit later than planned...

One thing that has struck me in the year and a half since our eldest started school is our level of involvement as parents. It's not too outrageous to say that my parents' involvement in my schooling stretched little further than ensuring I had a uniform that fitted me. Their contact with teachers was occasional and always at pre-arranged events, and their involvement in my actual education was next to nil. As far as I can recall, none of this was atypical at the time; for me and, if not all my friends then very nearly all of them, education took place at school. That was some 35-45 years ago, and I imagine that not too much of that holds true nowadays.

My understanding is that the situation over here at the same time was very similar to that in Britain, but is now very different from what it was. There's a very free flow of information between teachers and parents, most usually by e-mail, less so via SMS and exceptionally by telephone, as well as face to face meetings. Each teacher produces a weekly bulletin detailing forthcoming events, changes to the timetable, etc, so we always know what's going on. Personal e-mails are used to exchange information at the individual level. Parents are invited to come to the class room to tell about their work or hobby or some particular skill, or even just to watch a lesson in action. The net effect of all of this is to get a large number of parents actively involved in their children's education.

School days are quite short, at least they have been so far in the first two grades. Start is usually either 0815 or 0900 and the latest finish is 1415. On the other hand they're intensive, and homework starts immediately you begin school. This can take 30-60 minutes, sometimes shorter, occasionally longer, four evenings a week. The exercises (languages and maths, occasionally a project) usually require some form of adult assistance (even if it's just checking what's been done), the reading out loud certainly does.

Another departure from yesteryear is the teacher's reaction to difficulties with learning. The school employs a special needs teacher to support pupils who need it. Alternatively or additionally, the class teacher will quite readily organise extra tutorials for individuals or small groups, as they are needed.

I'm in no position to say how much of this is replicated across the country, but it's very unlikely that one school is radically out of line with the rest. Neither can I say whether any of this makes a blind bit of difference towards Finland being held as a model for education, but it's there for information and comparison purposes if anyone wishes.</description>
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            <title>Tear up Labour membership card right now - by: Bored of Education</title>
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            <description>Apologies. I see what you mean. As I say, I haven't been a member of the Labour Party for 15 years and have no real intention of joining up again presently.

I am not sure though. With the pressure from the unions, this is the first time that the Left can go against the Blairites with the threat of the Labour Party losing funding. Also, it is interesting that McCluskey is not just attacking the status quo on cuts but attacking Blairism (although I am sure he has done that before).

There is still people within the party like Bob Ainsworth saying that Blairism won the party three elections conveniently sidestepping that, to do so, they veered wildly to the right, sold out their principles, turned their back on their members, supporters, dismantled the public services and kept Thatcherism warm for Cameron etc to take over.

As an aside, I was immersed my McCluskey's Smiths reference but it does make me suspicious of the amount to ghost writing in his article</description>
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            <description> ad hoc wrote: 
  Why at Last! wrote: 
 I dunno, it's not irrational to be disinclined to take certain people's word for stuff. As I say, cautious. 

Not at all.  But I presume David Cameron believes in evolution.  Your suggestion is that we should question evolution because Cameron believes in it. 

We should certainly not take his word for it. And yes, we should certainly question it (though not because he believes in it).</description>
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            <title>Kit battles - by: Bored of Education</title>
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            <description>Wasn't there a Newcastle kit with an even bigger collar than that? It looked like something Elvis would wear to meet Nixon</description>
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            <description> evilC wrote: 
 You probably knew all that anyway.  Sorry if I'm going on a bit - I just love dogs.

 

Not at all - there's always room for more info.

Same here.</description>
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            <description> &quot;Burl Ives! Burl Ives pours out of meeee!&quot; 

(Magazine, in case anyone was struggling...)</description>
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            <title>Bands you shouldn't get but do - by: Jah Womble</title>
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            <description>Pantera.</description>
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            <title>New York in the 70s/80s - by: linus</title>
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            <description>That looks like a hoot, what, with Mick Jagger at 0:33...

&quot;Punk Rock&quot; is kind of an interesting genre entry, for the music of course (late 70s NY punk rock scene with live shows) but also because it actually was made as a classic 70s porn film (see pornstaches) then cleaned into a softcore punksplotation flick, jumping on the hype that came out in the late 70s  about that musical genre. The movie flopped bigtime because it was also marketed as a disco film, which alienated the punk-rock crowd.</description>
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            <title>Keyboard advice - by: linus</title>
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            <description>Great price for a new machine. Sounds good Clive, there's your vocoder too.

I've looked up the Korg2000 here in Montreal, there's a used one on sale, asking $560 (£360), is this much better than in your area?

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-musical-instruments-pianos-keyboards-KORG-MS2000-W0QQAdIdZ341956885

My farfisa is similar to this one:
http://farfisa.org/beautiful-farfisa-vip-255-on-ebay-607/

I am looking for a Farfisa Fast 2, because the VIP is too heavy/bulky and the F2 really looks amazing:

http://www.combo-organ.com/Farfisa/Fast/index.htm#Fast2
http://www.combo-organ.com/Farfisa/Fast/Fast%202%2020f.jpg</description>
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            <title>Happy Birthday Jim Carrey! - by: moolag</title>
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            <description> Vicarious Thrillseeker wrote: 
  moolag wrote: 
 
No,  but he did The Adventures Of Pluto Nash, which as I was watching, assumed was a dry, Woody Allen style Sci Fi pastiche. I was watching it in Thailand, with the subtitles all wrong, though.

When I watched it back in the UK I realised what an absolute abomination it was. 

I enjoyed 'Pluto Nash'. I mean, it's shit, but I enjoyed it. 

I guess it could be filed under 'so shit it's good'. I mean some of the lines in that film..I found myself doing more double takes than James Finlayson</description>
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            <description>The FPF (Portuguese Football Federation) have tried to clarify those sums: apparently, the 33,000-odd guarantees exclusive use of the hotel and all its facilities (pitches, pools, etc). The rooms will cost 'just' 7,800 a night. And the costs are less than for the previous three tournaments that Portugal took part in.</description>
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            <description> Andy C wrote: 
  I can't see any grounds for that being worse than our &quot;burgle&quot;, which is an ungainly back-formation from &quot;burglar&quot;. 

1 It's unnecessarily longer (and so, even less gainly)
2 It doesn't mean &quot;turning  into a burglar&quot; 

That would be burglarify, if anything, though. A womaniser doesn't turn things into women.</description>
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            <description> Garcia, they actually scored 13 penalties that season (one was by casiraghi) it's that 12 of them changed the course of the game in lazio's favour. It's an extraordinary number of penalties. And while they scored plenty of goals when they didn't need them, they only got penalties when they needed them.  

If you're going to throw about conspiracy theories then you should at least get your facts right. Lazio scored 12 pens in that season, not 13 - Signori 11 and Casiraghi 1.

From those 12 pens, 9 caused score altering situations. The Casiraghi penalty was in the opening round and came when Lazio were already 3-0 up. Signori scored 2 pens in a 5-1 win over Atalanta. His first came with the score at 1-0, the second when the score was 3-1. So we discount those.

Suddenly the stats don't look all that suspicious do they. Let's throw Caccia, Maspero, Chiesa (twice), Protti (twice) and Amoruso into the mix. All of these players scored penalties against Lazio in the 95/96 season.

So a team that finishes third in the table, comfortably outscoring anyone in the division score 12 penalties and concede 7 in a season.  the fuss was what exactly?</description>
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            <description>There are still a few tents in St Andrew Square, which I take to be the remnants of &quot;Occupy Edinburgh&quot;, though I'm not sure there's anyone inside them. I wonder if the occupiers sneak back home for a shower and a change of clothes.</description>
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            <description>The same. Cheers.</description>
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            <description> If rum cove is a smugglers inlet, then by inference it sounds like a euphemism worthy of Roger's Profanisaurus.  

Pity BBC Weatherperson Carol Kirkwood hasn't read her profanisaurus. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=vMk8KKWAq7c)</description>
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            <description>That's because it is nomadic!  Magyar, actually.  Well spotted.  

I decided a while ago to do a tour through Europe with my name.  I'm on my fourth stop at the moment.  Hungary chosen because of recent events.</description>
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            <description> garcia wrote: 
 when my girlfriend started working in cambridge i was stunned at the price of train tickets between there and london. £20 return for a 45 minute train that goes every half hour and always seems to be very busy. i expected it to be about £5. 

From Cambridge, £5 won't even get you as far as Royston (a return is £5.80 after a recent fare rise). That is about 12 miles for those who don't know the area.

I tried public transport for my communte for a while before giving up in frustration. The train was never really an option, as the location of the stations means the train/walking split is too close to 50/50 to be worthwhile. The bus goes from more convienient locations, but with only one bus an hour, and the last one going not long after 6pm, it was never that handy. Worse is that there is no shelter whatsoever when waiting for the bus on the way home. One day when the penultimate bus arrived after the last bus was meant to go, and I was soaked to the skin, ended my willingness to use this option.

So it's by car nowwadays, as I don't cycle. Journey just under 5 miles, takes 7 or 8 minutes if the roads are clear. 15 minutes is more common in the rush hours.</description>
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            <description>Afraid I'm not clever enough to copy Afrikaam's post across with the link but it's on page 25 of the Scottish thread.  About time you lot were reading about the game north of the border anyway, I don't see why we should suffer alone.</description>
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            <description> E10 Rifle wrote: 
 
There is a slight chance that some level-headedness might return for Poland and Ukraine this year, oddly enough, if it wasn't for the tendency to blame every single lapse on Capello. It's All The Boss's Fault has returned as a mantra in a major way since WC2010. 

Especially by Steve Claridge. The number of times I scream incoherent rage at him when he blames everything bad on Capello is getting to be a real issue.</description>
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Maroon 2
Maroon 3
Maroon 4
Maroon 5</description>
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            <description>&quot;How do you keeping going? Don't stop&quot;</description>
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            <description>Duh! Link fixed now. Late night dweeb website overload,I'm afraid.</description>
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            <title>The OTF compendium of &quot;What If's&quot; and &quot;If Onlys&quot; - by: The Exploding Vole</title>
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            <description>You know, if the ball had gone in the net, it would have been a goal.</description>
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            <description>On the Morrison thread, the sentiment I objected to was that which proposed to cut him loose and fire him from his football club. I do seem to recall having explained on the thread that Morrison must obviously face the legal consequences of his actions (and if I didn't point that out, did it really needed saying?). 

But I also believe that his rehabilitation is possibler, and that this would be better effected in a structured environment than on the streets. If you disagee with that, then I would regard your position as reactionary.

As for Suarez, I hope he has learnt a lesson and will not abuse people using their race again. I have not called for any punishment in excess of what he has received. On this thread I have backed the FA's judgment, nothing more. 

To present my position on this thread -- which I think reflects that of most people who have commented here, in content and moderation -- as demanding anything more than what Suarez has received is a distortion of the truth.</description>
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            <title>The Somehow-Mick-Jagger-Is-Relevant-Again Thread - by: Worn Old Motorbike</title>
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            <description>Yeah...didn't know that was coming. What a lovely surprise. I was taunted by Mrs WOM and my daughter. Had to leave the room.</description>
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            <description>He is on this week's Anfield Wrap podcast, talking about his book, plus Liverpool career, if anyone's interested. It's around the 1hr mark if you don't want to listen to the Liverpool talk

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/01/the-anfield-wrap-episode-twenty-five/ (http://)</description>
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            <description> Incandenza wrote: 
 Thanks moolag, I've definitely done that. 

@craigmod is a great person to follow when it comes to new publishing. he did a blog on Kickstartup, well worth reading.

I'm @moolag on there btw</description>
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            <title>Existential Photos of What Goalkeeping Feels Like - by: Harry Truscott</title>
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            <description>[IMG]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/scottpeterthomas/489f2021.jpg[/IMG]</description>
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            <title>Have we done the Democratic Presidential campaign? - by: ursus arctos</title>
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            <description>As careful readers of the Republican primary thread will remember, there are also Democratic primaries this year.

Here's one of the candidates who ran in New Hampshire:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2012/01/51e115ceb69e9cf14a82692fa181f783.jpg

Story here. (http://gawker.com/5874445/this-unkempt-boothead-is-terrorizing-new-hampshires-diners)</description>
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            <title>'How to look like Leon Best' - by: dogbeak</title>
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            <description>nobody gave a shit when i made my own (http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,615276/) nil thread about this, unfortunately.

but seeing as this isn't the sight of my own shame, i can reveal the leon best bits a joke and the actual video was about how to look like the famous rapper drake.

which is, of course, a perfectly sane reason to make  blacking up 101  videos for youtube!</description>
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            <description>Oh, blimey. I didn't realise it was hard to get hold of. 

I got it for under a fiver on ebay.

And yeah, it's excellent stuff.</description>
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            <title>Is this really the true Arsenal feeling? - by: Outside Agent</title>
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            <description>Nine hours old, this thread, and nobody has made the obvious Mickey Mouse jokes.

Typical OTF snobbery. Won't lower themselves to take the open goal.</description>
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            <title>Can't find the Prometheus thread - by: Javier HernanFARTLE</title>
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            <description>I love the trailer. It holds your interest without giving too much away (like the original 'Alien' trailer). 

It really looks fantastic (visually).

Did anyone notice the bald fella on the right hand side of the screen when the space jockey chair rises up from the ground? I wonder what thats all about. 

2012 is a bumper year for sci-fi and pop culture fans. We have The Dark Knight Rises, The Avengers, The Amazing Spiderman, Prometheus and Dredd (the new Judge Dredd film) to look forward to...</description>
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            <description> Spurs pay a substantial amount for west ham to use david bentley,  

i thought he was injured? 

 maybe the true cost of that only became apparent at the end of the following season, when wenger decided vieira was past it. could be he just needed a break?

he had loads of breaks that season, he only played in 29 league games. Edu and parlour started loads of games that season.  

i was talking about the 04-05 season. 44 games including 32 league and six each in the FA cup and CL. 

 But I don't think that it's really relevant what many other clubs are up to. Chelsea, man city and liverpool are relying on their owners to fund wildly wasteful spending, so you can't use them as a useful comparison. Newcastle took a position on the edge of the top ten richest clubs in europe and turned it into relegation and are still clearing up the mess.
 

what about arsenal? here's arseblog (http://arseblog.com/2012/01/squad-inefficiencies-require-decision-making/) today saying all the same stuff about arsenal's squad that you're saying about spurs'. 

 I mean sure the other clubs are all up to something crazy, but the point is that spurs are up to something completely bizarre of their own, and it's likely to bite them really hard at some point soon. 

well, it might do, but it might not. it's like with parker - you're saying the overwhelming likelihood is he will be a terrible signing, but if he helps them get CL this year then he's largely justified himself, and if he plays well in the next couple of years, which is not beyond the bounds of possibility, he will be a good signing. so it's not yet decided either way. as a matter of policy it's not a good idea to sign 30 year olds on longer contracts, but there are also exceptions: mcallister at liverpool, poyet at spurs, pires at villareal - none of whom got 4 year contracts from their new employers but all of whom were a few years older than parker when they signed. 

so you can say that the way spurs are doing their business is &quot;likely to bite them really hard at some point&quot;, but you can say that about any club. i'm not sure why you're singling out one of the apparently better-run ones for special criticism. the fact is we don't really know so continually harping on about how spurs are cruising for a bruising is kind of pointless. i sense you are building up to another of your orgies of &quot;i told you so&quot;, but if spurs do lose their way i'm not sure it will have to do with any of the stuff you've mentioned. it seems to me the biggest threat to the team is that their best players, bale and modric, will soon join bigger clubs, and spurs can't do much about that. giving william gallas's wages to gareth bale won't convince him to stay if he's decided he wants to join barcelona. 

in the meantime there isn't much point talking about something that might happen as though it definitely will happen. it might not happen. if you want an example of how clubs can defy reasonable expectation in the medium term, just look at spurs, who seemed a complete disaster in 08-09, making lots of stupid deals which you've mentioned. yet they seem to have come out of it pretty well.</description>
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            <description>It didn't seem to bother Philip Roth</description>
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            <description>And they've still got a representative side.

 Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man are set to meet Gibraltar's FA to discuss a new tournament. </description>
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            <description> Not facebook but I have Boy George following me on twitter. And Sasha (dj/producer).  

I have Mr. Stubbs following me on Twitter (and Facebook, too, I think), but was pretty chuffed to have Fred Deakin from Lemon Jelly doing the same, yet a sense of unreality followed when I found Christopher Douglas - yes, he of Ed Reardon and Dave Podmore repute - following as well. Took me a little while to calm down after that.</description>
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            <description> Worn Old Motorbike wrote: 
 You people give me hives. A car is  most  people's second biggest purchase after a home. And it's a depreciating asset with a direct care/lifespan correlation. Why wouldn't you look after it? 

I like to think I look after the engine, take the car regularly to the mechanic, drive it carefully etc. It's just the caring-about-how-it-looks stuff I can't be arsed with.</description>
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            <description> Shouldn't it be '... we hate only Mancs?' 

No</description>
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            <description>Baylor about to lose their unbeaten record.......Robinson on Kansas is a beast</description>
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            <description>Blimey...</description>
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            <description>Well I don't know about always but, it's true, Tom Waits has written at least one song from the perspective of a corpse. And very nice it is too.</description>
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            <description> I'd like to read more about the space race (esp. Korolev and the Soviets) but I worry that the prose wont be as good.  

A novel, so not really belonging on this thread, but Jed Mercurio's  The Ascent   is terrific; orphan in Stalingrad gets into Soviet Air Force, flies Migs in korea, then Home Air defence, then onto Cosmonaut programme. gripping read.</description>
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            <description>Andy Griffin is a funny one. Surely if there's one position on the pitch where you should not have a shock of grey hair, even if you have to Just For Men it, it's at fullback. A right back who looks like he's ready to retire from the Civil Service becomes an instant target for tricky wingers.</description>
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            <description>On the one occasion that I attended the Boogaloo quiz, the name that amused me most was Stock, Aitken and Hitler.

Quiz Team Aguilera is good, but it's now so well-known that there seems to be about three teams with the name at every quiz.

And The Cunning Linguists definitely predates its use by Bond - there was a roll of honour for, I think, a beer-drinking contest at one of the Glasgow Uni unions when I was there, and there were at least two teams from the 70s that went by that name.</description>
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            <description>Is what Keys' saying accurate?

I can't watch the clip myself because he's a bullshit merchant who makes me want to vomit.</description>
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            <description>It made me laugh, sophisticate that I am.</description>
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            <description>Auckland continue their 100% win rate in the ASB Premiership with a 3-0 win over Canterbury Utd. Sadly missed the game due to thinking it was on Sunday not Sat.</description>
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            <description>I can't remember whether I posted this on here before, but this is a brilliant resource for finding out which matches were shown on Match Of The Day. Honestly, I could just sit and wallow in it for hours, if not months: 

https://sites.google.com/site/motdlistings/home</description>
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            <description>Right, team's entered and a request sent to your inbox. Happy Directeursportifing!</description>
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            <description>Looks like any other vanity publishing exercise to me. All the same, I would think if you can talk to your club or at least a couple of their biggest unofficial fan groups you might stand a chance of at least breaking even.

You need to factor in the cost of the ISBN though. Take a look in the How It Works page. £111.86 including nine ISBNs you'll probably never need but have to buy anyway is a significant extra cost. As, if you want the book to actually be any good, is the fact that the cost of publishing doesn't  include proof-reading.</description>
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            <description>I was quite surprised to discover this is a 12 certificate in Germany (or at least it is in Munich).

From the discussion, I'm assuming  that particular  scene is as explicitly dealt with as it was in the Swedish version (and in the original book).</description>
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            <description>That's also true. I don't dount it will be very long before Juve win the league again, even if not this year. They look the most stable of all the big clubs at the minute, at least until Roma get their new owners and team bedded in properly</description>
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            <description>Amount of times a player has appealed for a penalty.
Amount of times a player has appealed for another player to be booked or dismissed.

Length of time in minutes a player has been praised by chanting fans.
Length of time in minutes a player has been execrated by chanting fans.</description>
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            <title>how to look like Leon Best - by: dogbeak</title>
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            <description>An instructional video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yymo4fLZms8).

( &quot;Please subscribe to see more videos of how to make yourself look like James Perch, Jean-Alain Boumsong and Keith Gillespie. ¯\_(&amp;#12484;)_/¯_&quot; )

An incredibly hard offer to refuse - the only way I can think of to make myself look like Keith Gillespie involves decades of incredibly hard living.</description>
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            <description>Brad Beans was my junior high school geometry teacher.</description>
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            <description>When &quot;Ski Sunday&quot; was on years ago, my moan about it, was it didn't do enough on the resort itself, as most people who watched it were 1 week a year skiers, and it was nice to see more of it.

However as soon as they did that - it lost it's &quot;edge/interest&quot;.

And now I can't be bothered watching it.

So always be careful what you wish for.</description>
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            <description> Antepli Ejderha wrote: 
  Diable Rouge wrote: 
 I was sceptical before getting a Kindle as a Christmas present, but the similarity to real books has won me over - the electronic glare that was reported about earlier models has been eradicated, while the bookmarking capability and clickable notes are very useful. The Kindle has a USB port, which is convenient for charging and downloading. Which sites would be recommended in terms of free books - Edit: Just got as far as Stumpy's post. 

PM sent DR. 

And replied.</description>
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            <title>SPOILER ALERT The Grauniad alive and well - by: stonelephant</title>
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            <description>So sorry G. Man and any others similarly buggered up.

I have added SPOILER to the thread title.

Rearrange this well-known phrase or saying:

Door
After
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Bolted
Stable
Shutting
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            <description>As gyp says it's very hard to gauge where Australia stand, since it all hinges on how abject India's batting has been.

On the face of it the batting's OK and Watson can now slot in lower, perhaps for the struggling Marsh at 3. Once Tim Paine is fit he should (and probably will based on the apparent bullishness of the new selectors) displace Haddin who is now only talking a good game. 

Otherwise there appears to be an embarrassment of bowlers with Lyon, Pattinson and Cummins not even playing in Perth. But as has been said, both seam attacks got the ball to move, and the Indian batting was crap, so how much were the Australian attack flattered? 

Arguably Ponting and Hussey getting big tons in Sydney set the squad back at least a year as they are now safe, making it harder for the next breed to break through when the old boys' form drops again.

So England should still be cautiously optimistic for the Ashes.</description>
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            <description>Oh! I would actually put Viva above X&amp;Y, as it does &quot;try&quot; and be sort of listenable in places - But you are generally right with the trend, except my misues would have that order completly in reverse order.</description>
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            <description>It wouldn't be nice to see a good dart player waste his career by not playing against the best players in the world. I'm more worried about watching good darts than what channel it's on, and the PDC is without doubt the much stronger competition. 

Although if you want to go down that route, there's actually more PDC on real telly (three tournaments on ITV) than there is BDO on the BBC (just the World Championships, and even that's now split with ESPN).</description>
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            <description>More trauma counselling for the kids has been arranged for tomorrow. I really hope that the lad who was jumped is getting help as well; on Facebook he reported getting teary-eyed. As expected.

We'll have to monitor G-Teen; he seems to be dealing with it OK (using humour as medicine), though he was very concerned tonight that the house alarm be properly armed. Tomorrow at school he'll definitely be a centre of attention. I'm sure he'll regard that as an upside.

One boy who had his Blackberry stolen has found that his BBM status says something awful about him, and on his Facebook, friends have been unfriended and blocked. This suggests that we're looking here at a gang of young punks rather than older, more hardened gangsters. I don't know that this is of any comfort -- maybe it means that the kids were not in as much peril as they might have been -- but if Blackberries can be traced to a location, perhaps that might give the police a lead. 

moolag: no, the party wasn't publicised. Police believe these guys scouted for targets, and spotted a good one at our place.</description>
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            <title>&quot;We don't need libraries anymore&quot; - by: Bored of Education</title>
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            <description>Ha ha, brilliant. It was a good point, well made however</description>
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            <description> benjm wrote: 
  historyman wrote: 
 It has to be said though: the open suit and bare chest look hasn't aged too well.  Did any other pop/rock stars try that at the time?
  

I think of it as Bobby Brown's signature look, subsequently taken up by numerous Jamaican dancehall artists.  

The real nadir of skipped base layer style came a couple of years later with the v neck pullover modelled by Michael Douglas in     Basic Instinct 's deeply unsexy nightclub scene. 

I think Stpe ripped that look off Bonio didn't he? 

Green is my favourite album of theirs, and Tourfilm was great. But that followed in the footsteps of the U2 wide Awake tour movie, and I do seem to remember at that particular time the two bands being lumped together.</description>
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            <description>Fans of Lana Del Ray may want to avoid her performance on Saturday Night Live last night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhBtHh459k), singing an incredibly flat and lacklustre 'Video Games'. She looked terrified, sounded sub-amateur, and had the charisma of a large and slightly swaying bottle of mayonnaise. I can only assume that in the studio she benefits from a huge helping of auto-tune.</description>
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            <title>PSG's Toulouse? Ligue Un 2011-12 - by: StephL</title>
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            <description>I would even prefer Marseille to win the title rather than Qatar Saint Germain</description>
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            <title>Political resurrections - by: G.Man</title>
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            <description>From 1999 to 2005 Jacob Zuma was South Africa's deputy president. Then his &quot;financial adviser&quot; (or conduit for bribes) was convicted of having a &quot;generally corrupt&quot; relationship with Zuma. Whereupon President Thabo Mbeki fired Zuma.

This made Zuma the poster boy for the anti-Mbeki faction in the ANC, and aftr a bitter campaign that makes the Republican nomination process look like a tea party (lower case), Zuma unseated Mbek as ANC president in December 2007. In Apil 2009 Zuma was elected SAs president.

Now many of those who propelled Zuma into power -- including ANC Youth League president Juliys Malema, who once declared himself willing to kill and die for Zuma -- want to get rid of their man. Malema, who fancies himself a bit of a kingmaker, has lately cosied up to...Thabo Mbeki. I doubt though that Mbeki will return.

Young Julius, a populist of the worst kind, himself might become a topic for a thread like this himself: he has been suspended, pending appeal, from the ANC for three years for a litany of naughtinesses, some pretty bad (he is a racist who swears at BBC corresponddnts) and some exaggerated for effect. 

It's unlikely that he'll get the suspension overturned, but I expect he'll have it reduced and later get a pardon (if his side succeeds in gtting rid of Zuma). In which case he'll probably return as a martyr-hero and complete a comeback.</description>
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            <description>He may not be the most technically gifted and all that, but fucking hell David Gilmour could make a guitar sing.

Jimi Hendrix gets a vote from me, and Johnny Marr's lovely tremolo guitaring is the highlight of the Smiths for me.

Like him in Modest Mouse as well.

And evilC, I am not a Muse fan, but I do really like Knights Of Cydonia, specifically the big finish on that song. It's a big, jazzhand finish.</description>
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            <description>Oxford United 5 - 5 Portsmouth. November 3rd 1992 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kx9poEmLAc)

Oxford U were 5-2 down with five minutes to go.</description>
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            <description>Lee Minshull has gone on loan to Newport County.</description>
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            <description>Fabio da Silva (left) and Rafael da Silva


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club%20Home/2009/4/20/1240258436231/Rafael-and-Fabio-De-Silva-001.jpg</description>
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            <description>&quot;If four US nuclear scientists were (God forbid) blown up at Las Alamos one after another, I think we all know that there would be hell to pay.&quot;

Quite.

So there's evidence that it may be Mossad, and we know what Mossad do to their own Nuclear technicians (Vanunu).

But it's okay! Iran are illegally developing a nuclear warhead. Boo.
Which is nothing like Israel illegally housing 400 warheads. Yay.</description>
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            <description>Steve Moore - For The Theatrical Brilliance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVbt5W-DNc)</description>
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            <description> RobM wrote: 
 Cheers Lodz, for some reason I'd got it fixed in my mind that they'd shifted from the Olympic Stadium back to Sarria 

It is often called the Nou Sarria by fans, since they hated the Olympic Stadium.</description>
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            <description>The only time I've ever been mugged was in daylight along the Derby Road in Nottingham, walking home from lectures when I was at uni. I was carrying my maths notes in a briefcase-type thing that the mugger probably thought was a laptop case. He sneaked up behind me and grabbed the handle. Eager to get home and do some algebraic structures revision, I didn't let go, so we were stood there doing a tug-of-war on the pavement. After a few moments, he managed to pull me into a little park, but he tripped over, I fell on him, and he ran away empty handed.</description>
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            <description>Only joking. It's not on tonight.</description>
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            <description>Amazing how a football club taking action over homophobia is yet another excuse for religion-baiting.</description>
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            <description> Incandenza wrote: 
 All of Ina Garten's recipes should start with &quot;if you can't find the ingredients for this at a roadside farm stand in Cape Cod or from a local organic market where the owner butchered the animals that morning, you should just really stop now&quot; 

Sounds like  Posh Nosh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzjR0yL4f0Y) .</description>
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            <description> Duncan Gardner wrote: 
[quotePS does big Jock know? 

 Almost as pointless a dig at Celtic as JW's, given he's been gone more than a quarter of a century...</description>
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            <description>I saw him for the second time a few weeks ago in Oxford and really enjoyed myself. He included a kind of Cajun section in his set and I was delighted when this culminated in &quot;I Love You Goodbye&quot;, my favourite Dolby track. I didn't let my mild disappointment that he forgot the words twice unduly sully my euphoria that I'd finally heard him play it after twenty years.</description>
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            <description>From hobbes, umpteen pages ago...

 What I mean statto is that you already obviously hate Gerrard.  

I think I already made clear I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't say I hated him. Most of the time I forget he's there. It's more of a passive dislike that gets reawoken from time to time when, well, he does something like this.


 this seems like trying to wring every last drop of joy out of that. 

What, and that's suddenly become unseemly on here, has it?! I'd put a smiley face, but I'm assuming the etiquette is still the same on that, at least. It's a kind of mini perfect storm. Stevie G has shoved himself into the scenery of something I was already annoyed about.

 you quote what Gerrard said, but you don't quote the context or what was said to him first. He was, 5 minutes after a game as the captain of the winning team confronted with (roughly and apropos of nothing really, except a desire to get a reaction) &quot;Mancini says Johnson should have been sent off for the tackle...&quot; Essentially he's being chucked a Grenade. 

Just checking now... this IS 31 year old Steven George Gerrard, lion of Istanbul, who has just celebrated 13 unbroken years in top flight football across the world including many as captain of his club and the honour of skippering his country at the last world cup? I guess his inexperience in such post match interview situations meant he didn't really stand a chance against such a wily ruse to drag him unwillingly into belligerent controversy.

 Whether he saw the challenge or not (do we know how close he was?) he's essentially being told &quot;A chap who complained about a person trying to get a player punished is trying to get a player punished.&quot;  . 

I'm glad you're not swallowing Kenny's line that it wasn't even a challenge. In what way is saying &quot;Johnson should have been sent off for that tackle&quot;, even if he had said exactly that, &quot;trying to get a player punished.&quot; Bit late for that by then, shurely?

 And this a week after that same person ran down the touch line brandishing an imaginary card for a non-foul. (regardless of the following apology.) 

Well, Kenny, the official spokespeople and the lads in the t-shirts have certainly given a firm lead in the disregarding of apologies. Apologising was classy. Waving the imaginary card wasn't. And whether or not it was a foul is irrelevant to your point. Mancini did the wrong thing once a foul had been given. Had the foul not been given, he'd have looked a right berk waving imaginary cards about. Even Wayne waits for the whistle.

 Now with the benefit of hindsight and replays maybe Gerrard would have said, &quot;fair play, he's got a point.&quot; Or of course, he may not.  

I think we know which one he's gone for.

 Which would THEN be dickish. 

Look, it's YOU saying that one...

 We won't know, because the BBC interviewer decided to try to work up some excitement from a rather dour game. 

How will that make us not know?

 So essentially my point is, there are plenty of things for you to hate Gerrard for.  

Well, commendably frank of you, but I'll stick with the mostly passive disliking thing if that's ok.

 This (to use a rather well-worn phrase on here recently) seems very much to be gilding the lily. I suspect that had Gerrard said &quot;I didn't see it&quot; you'd be berating him for his myopia. 

Not sure I would have managed to work up a berate. More of an eye-rolling guffaw, I suspect. Maybe if he'd said &quot;After Sunday, I can see why Mancini might think that, but we have to leave it to the referee.&quot; or something similar I would have had to admit that was pretty classy. Maybe he should read what Vincent Kompany wrote the other day. It might help him overcome his inexperience as he works towards this ambassadorial role his shiny new contract offers him.</description>
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            <description>First got into them hearing 'private Psychedelic Reel'

Big fan up to Surrender, then they dipped somewhat. I think they went out of  fashion somewhat around the early 00s when everything all went minimal, the complete opposite of their sound

What I do like about them is that while they dip in to the current styles of music,  (trance on hey Boy Hey Girl), (electro on Music: Response) they always owned their own sound, so respect to them for that. 
They put on amazing live shows, and clearly still love making that music.


Did anybody used to go to their Headstart nights at Gurnmills? superb nights.

For those interested they have just put out a concert film called Don't Think. Wouldn't mind seeing it on the big screen.

It might be like comparing apples and oranges, but I think overall I preferred underworld's output / live shows.

http://www.nme.com ews/the-chemical-brothers/60754 (http://)</description>
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            <description> S'funny; the more reading I do on this (and I've been doing a fair bit over the past week or so) it all leads to the same point: 'there's nothing you can do to stop someone else's drinking. Look after yourself.' ..and have a pint. 

I am genuinely not being facetious. The thing that is forgotten, as I mention above, is that you are allowed to enjoy yourself and not feel guilty about it. It's not alcohol is the problem, it happens to be the way that those people have found to obliterate the real world. I have known many alcoholics who have pretty voracious appetites for fags, drugs, gambling etc. Many people can drink and it doesn't go to the extent that it does with alcoholics. 

As I mention earlier, I have been in close contact with alcoholics, one of which I saw hours before his death, and it didn't make me think about my own drinking as I could recognise the difference. Indeed, often, after horrible jobs like that, I would often feel more like a drink. Actually, I have just realised that alcoholics probably say the same as the last two sentences. Funnily enough, I don't gamble at all after a mate went through giving up gambling addiction but I am sure that is probably as, like painkiller addiction, I just can't even understand the pull in the first place. More pertinently, a friend of mine who found her alcoholic father dead when she was 14 and she is quite happy to drink now

Anyway, enough about me, basically I am saying look after yourself, don't feel guilty if you give up on a person and live your own life.</description>
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            <description>Most nightclubs here don't play Phil Collins anyway.</description>
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            <description> No one is saying that Evra made it all up. 

Luis suarez and liverpool are. They're saying that he deliberately  misrepresented one incident, and has massively amplified by saying it happened more often than it did. 

How else can you get from &quot;I said Negro in a friendly way as I pinched him in a friendly way and patted his head&quot; to &quot;He said it 7 times.&quot;

It's also a necessary part of believing that luis suarez's defence isn't total gibberish.</description>
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            <description>Al Ahli's manager last season was David O'Leary, and they had Fabio Cannavaro playing for them for a while. Quite a nice ground, actually. They are the team that kicked fuck out of Chelsea in a training match in 2009, so if you can get past the O'Leary thing and like red, you may find comfort there.

Al Wasl fans are a bunch of cunts, even for Emiratis. Avoid, even with the Diego link.

While I was there I followed my friend's team - Al Shabab, which roughly translates as 'The Youth', or something similar. Dave Mackay managed them in the '80's, so that may work for you.

I wouldn't bother with the other two. The truth is that the Premiership behaves like some sort of fucking dense planet, dragging locals into its gravity field. You will not find one Emirati who supports any team outside of the traditional EPL top 4 - City (an Abu Dhabi team and therefore not to be trusted) and Tottenham lag some way behind. you'll be on your own in a local team'e shirt, if you wear it.

While you're there, avoid British ex-pats. Most of them are vacuous cunts with too much money. If you get chance, go to a branch of Karachi Darbar - top Pakistani spicy food.</description>
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            <description>Nah, f*ck all that. Good food and brews are the key. Brought to you by scantily clad women. If you want to make it family friendly put in some swings and roundabouts. Well, nowadays it would be a video arcade, I suppose.</description>
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            <description>Here's Glenn Greenwald's take (http://www.salon.com/2012/01/13/arthur_brisbane_and_selective_stenography/singleton/).

He points out that it's only &quot;official&quot; sources, &quot;newsmakers&quot; to use Brisbane's nauseating word, that get the stenographic treatment:

 This stenographic treatment by journalists — of simply amplifying what someone claims without any skepticism or examination — is not available to everyone. Only those who wield power within America’s political and financial systems are entitled to receive this treatment. For everyone else — those who are viewed as ordinary, marginalized, or scorned by America’s political establishment — the exact opposite rules apply: their statements are subjected to extreme levels of skepticism in those rare instances when they’re heard at all. </description>
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            <description>Bankers.</description>
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            <description>I’m terribly sorry.

..there..all sorted.</description>
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            <description>Gershwin started it, didn't he?</description>
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            <description> Etienne wrote: 
 Is that &quot;everyone he hated&quot; or &quot;every one he hated&quot;? 

Heh, probably both but I meant the latter, sorry.</description>
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            <description>Along similar lines, can anyone tell me what a &quot;Contemporary Authors New Revision Series&quot; is and whether I should spend much time providing the firm that produces it with biographical information?</description>
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            <title>No Good But Nobody Else Can See It - by: Er Liquidatore</title>
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            <description>I have no idea how Berb's really long post at all challenges El Tel's post about English-raised players</description>
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            <description>Patty Smith.</description>
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            <description> stonelephant wrote: 
  Twisted Sister wrote: 
 My friend goes running in white converse and Jeans…no top. I think he's inspired by David Lee Roth. 

In Bradford-On-Avon?

DD - www.mapmyrun.com. is worth a look if you want to keep a track on your runs... ooer 

Yeah...and Bath. 

He works at Bath University. One lunchtime someone convinced him that he should take part in a race that was happening at the University that afternoon..he ran in his jeans and white converse, he told me that his hands were also covered in oil (I'm not sure of  the importance of that detail) he came 3rd out 27..the lycra brigade did not seemed pleased.</description>
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            <description>For those of us, of a certain generation the TV show Decimal 5!</description>
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            <description>Thanks, replied. 

Thread of the year contender this.</description>
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            <description>We'll be here all day if we're including a UK release with 42 cinemas as lost. I wasn't a fan of The Illusionist myself and could see why Tati decided not to film the script but it was very very pretty.

A subjective top ten, some of these are by highly feted directors so not really obscure to anyone who follows the festival circuit but all received very limited if any UK distribution.

Afterschool (Antonio Campos)
The best consideration of the alienating effects of the technological and social changes of the last decade. Set in a boarding school with copious masturbation jokes.

Silent Light (Stellet licht) (Carlos Reygadas)
Transcendant in parts with aching beauty throughout every frame. Centres on a Mennonite community with simplicity, faith, love and respect as themes.

3-iron (Bin-jip) (Ki-duk Kim)
South Korea was one of the major powers of film in the 2000s. Ki-duk Kim is nowhere near as celebrated as Park Chan-wook or Bong Joon-ho over here but with this and Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter etc., he marks himself out as one of the best directors working today.

Longing (Sehnsucht) (Valeska Grisebach)
Along with Romanian film (I haven't included any as the heavy hitters like 4 weeks, 3 months etc. have got significant traction here), the Berlin School is the major movement deserving serious study in Europe. Methodical, studied, elliptical storytelling that is immensely powerful. I just wish Grisebach would make more films.

Distant (Uzak) (Nuri Bilge Ceylan)
Ceylan is probably too well know for this type of list. I'm really looking forward to his latest and Climates was undoubtedly one of the best of the decade. This mix of urbanite and rural viewpoints is a real treat and deserves to be better known.

Sleeper (Schläfer) (2005) (Benjamin Heisenberg)
As per the Grisebach piece really but manages to be really thoughtful about the post 9/11 landscape, friendship and one of those slow burning thrillers that aren't about the plot but the experience of ordinary petty men in unusual circumstances.

Burma VJ Reporting from a Closed Country (Burma VJ Reporter i et lukket land) (Anders Østergaard)
Documentary footage of the monk aided protests in Burma smuggled out of the country. Charts the initial sceptism, the mounting hope and the horrors. Immensely powerful and not even a little cynical.

Couscous (La graine et le mulet) (Abdel Kechiche)
A film of atmosphere, place and relationships rather than driven by the plot. A loving, self-critical portrait of the Arab population in France. Romantic, infuriating and beguiling.

A Fine Day (Der schöne Tag) (2001) (Thomas Arslan)
Another Berlin School film, this one focusing on losing love, finding love and the lives of second generation German immigrants in Berlin.

Night and Day (Bam guan nat) (2008) (Sang-soo Hong)
Sang-soo Hong is the real jewel in South Korean film making. I've only seen about half of his films but every one of the ones I have seen details a film director/producer/artist searching for his way in life and how to create whilst chatting argumentatively, getting drunk and generally being a bit of a dick whilst having a yearning for love and romance. I can't explain why it works so well but I'm entranced. To add the usual fine story and performances, here we get to look at pretty Paris and how people far away from home bond.</description>
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            <description> Calvert W. McCutcheon wrote: 
 Ha ha, what CV said.
My son tried to shock his grandmother at sunday lunch years ago by putting on a Slipknot tape (christ, it really was a while ago).
'Whaddya think of that Gran?', he said.
'Ooh, that's quite good', she said.

He was gutted. 

I did that once with The Jesus And Mary Chain's  Psychocandy , to my dad. But he just said &quot;Oh, this is The Jesus And Mary Chain, isn't it? I've been playing them on my show.&quot; (He was a local radio DJ at the time.) But then, he wasn't the average kind of dad.</description>
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            <description>Crazy day at the WACA - Australia's 4 quicks skittle India for 169 on a wicket that is pretty green and that seamed and swung (the ball from Hilfenhaus that knocked over Sehwag was basically unplayable). 

At that point Australia were clearly on top, but given the wicket and the fragility of their batting order nobody was too confident that they'd end up with a massive first innings lead. And then Warner comes out and smashes 100 off 69 balls (making Cowan's quite impressive 40 in 58 look very pedestrian). And suddenly in less than 25 overs it's basically game over. 

India are clearly not as strong as we al thought they were going to be, but this has been a promising series for Australia - the bowling attack has looked strong for a while, but both Cowan and Warner seem like they'll do okay at the top of the order, and Ponting and Hussey seem to have regained some kind of form. I still think that at least one of them plus Haddin need to retire/be dropped before too long, but at least there's a platform there to build on for the next Ashes series.</description>
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            <description>I demand a recount.</description>
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            <description>Oh yeah, Let's Dance and Keep On Moving are both cracking pieces of chart pop although the other singles that have been drawn to my attention by various officemates do seem a lot more ropy.</description>
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            <description> George wrote: 
 Northern Uproar's homepage (http://www.n-uproar.u-net.com/). Last updated sometime around 1998, it is the  Mary Celeste  of the internet. 

Whoo, that was a real trip back in time to the days of Netscape Navigator, Geocities and Xoom.</description>
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            <description>Gerrard was closer to Carroll than Bellamy, his average touch position was slightly further ahead of Bellamy who was doing a Dirk Kuyt impersonation without the stamina.</description>
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            <description>See that ?

Right on cue, we see what those cops in the last &quot;Shaolin&quot; link were up to.

ODB's FBI File. (http://gun.io/blog/i-got-ol-dirty-bastards-fbi-file/)

&quot; The detectives have documented, in their case files, that the Wu Tang Clan is heavily involved in the sale of drugs, illegal guns, weapons possession, murder, car jackings, and other types of violent crimes.&quot; </description>
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            <title>So the Green Party then - by: Tubby Isaacs</title>
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            <description>Northern MPs like the Transport Secretary (Putney) and her predecessor (Runnymede &amp; Weybridge).

I think long haul flights to Birmingham are more likely than Manchester- it can basically serve as another London airport as well as serving Birmingham. 

I wouldn't have thought it would be too difficult for luggage to pop out on a carousel at an airport's rail station, if you wanted it to. This may take a bit of time, but given that your train will take you right into the centre of Manchester, that might not be too bad. 

That clown in the FT the other day moaned about the cost of HS2, and then praised &quot;Boris Island&quot; airport. Which would be miles from London, nowhere near any other city, and need a high speed rail connection anyway. He had no idea what he was talking about but it was part of his plan to make HS2 sound dated.

No word yet from the Taxpayers Alliance about Boris Island.</description>
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            <description>I didn't go myself but I heard good things about the Morecambe pies as well from when Wednesday played there earlier this season. £3 for pie and peas which is pretty good too I reckon. 

Do Norwich still do posh pies? Chicken and Tarragon etc?

The catering at Wednesday is uniformly awful. Under Strafford the catering was brought in house  (one of his 'deals' which seem to have cost the club  a fortune) and it got a little cheaper but still fairly poor. Now it's gone external again and is extremely expensive. Any visitors to Hillsborough are far better off with the food places outside the ground (especially the Beres pork sandwiches).</description>
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            <description>2003: Sacramento Earthquakes lost the first leg of their first-round MLS playoff against LA Galaxy, 2-0. They went 2-0 down in the second leg, but came back for a 5-4 aggegate win.

This was back in the days when Channel Five showed the MLS on Thursdays nights - it was a fantastic game.</description>
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            <description>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,613885/</description>
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            <description> I could not think of one outstanding candidate for right back at all (maybe I'm forgetting someone).  

Denis Irwin 

edit: or GNev. Both decent.</description>
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            <description> The Awesome Berbaslug!!! wrote: 
 We helped you lay down the white man's burden by showing the world that the emperor really had no clothes. We taught the world that modern insurgency tactics combined with public relations campaigns was the way of booting out the oppressor. (As long as you were white, political pressure wasn't an option for the darkies, they just had to be prepared to die in large numbers) 

I always lose track of whether you lot are white. I think you were for about 10 years- between &quot;More to Ireland dan dis&quot; and the crash, when horse reappeared on council estates.</description>
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            <description>Schapps follows me on Twitter, I think, or did - so I'd conceitedly like to think he's at least aware of the utter contempt I hold him in.</description>
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            <description> The Exploding Vole wrote: 
 while mistakes seem to be accepted from players and managers, the match officials are expected to be close to perfect. 

Aye, it seems incredibly unfair that the only really impartial people, earning - at the higher levels at least - much, much less than anybody else should be held to a higher level of scrutiny.</description>
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            <description>Jesus</description>
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            <description> Garamczy Antal wrote: 
  3) The Wild Things 

Oh, look, just fucking  grow up , will you?  

 

That works a bit better for  Peter Pan  perhaps?</description>
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            <description> Fussbudget wrote: 
 Linus I hate to be a pedant (ah who am I kidding, I love it) but the saxophone is woodwind, not brass. 

exhibit A
http://bassic-sax.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/In-Stand1.jpg</description>
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            <description>An early issue of WSC asked the question  What is Emlyn Hughes's nickname? 
a) Crazy Horse
b) Cart Horse
c) Squeaky-Voiced Bastard 
The correct answer was C.</description>
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            <title>Photos of celebs, by celebs - by: ian.64</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,30/id,613649/#613709</link>
            <description>Jeff Bridges has acquired a fair reputation of doing some good photographic work on the sets of films he's done, I think.</description>
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            <title>Interesting titles in the Kindle Store - by: stonelephant</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,32/id,612099/#613663</link>
            <description>That's marvellous.

I note that both  Russian Brides: A Quick and Dirty Guide...  and  The Russian Bride Phrasebook  are by Ivan Asimov.

Literary talent must run in the family then.</description>
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            <title>Cardiff or Palace: to join a small list - by: David Agnew</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,612790/#613577</link>
            <description>I'd kick out the Premier League teams, scrap the Football League Trophy, scrap the seeding, keep it as a national rather than regional competition and give the lower division team home advantage (if they're in the same division, it's as the draw comes out).</description>
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            <title>Wurst Part Of Town You've Ever Lived In - by: Zuma Kahuna</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,613234/#613555</link>
            <description>Brattleboro (Vermont)</description>
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            <title>sweet mother of jesus - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,31/id,613490/#613534</link>
            <description>Here's an interview from irish radio (http://soundcloud.com/off-the-ball/our-new-favourite-irish)</description>
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            <title>Alas, poor Yorick - by: Diable Rouge</title>
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            <description>Shamrock Rovers keeper quits to become gravedigger.</description>
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            <title>The Thing and its critics - by: ian.64</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,30/id,273942/limit,20/limitstart,40/#613444</link>
            <description>The Keep's a weird thing isn't it? Full of strange stuff that doesn't cohere very much but is well-made and has lots of interesting moments. It also has an Ian McKellan performance that's sometimes hard to watch because he doesn't so much provide a large slice of ham but a whole chain of butcher's shops.</description>
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            <title>Well Fair - by: RobM</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,613422/#613422</link>
            <description>Bit of a kicking for Cameron tonight -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jan/11/disability-welfare?fb=native</description>
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            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,32/id,578709/limit,20/limitstart,40/#613417</link>
            <description> The thing I like about 'I, Partridge' is not just how funny it is, but how it acts as a sort of character check on yourself - that is, you might be about to say something, and it suddenly strikes you that your thoughts are slightly or even alarmingly Partridgesque, and you stop yourself from coming across like a twat and shut up instead. Maybe it's just me. 

It only took the radio show and television series to do that to me. It's probably made me a little neurotic more than I tend to be, to police myself in terms of what I say and to go over at times what I've said before, in case I've made myself a complete tit. But then, no change there.</description>
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            <title>New grounds that have relegated clubs - by: David Agnew</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,613088/#613371</link>
            <description>In the early 1980s, Ipswich sold the bulk of their team to build anew three tier main stand. This weakened the side who were subsequently relegated not long after the stand was finished. In the Eight years after the main stand was built, it was filled once.

Unhappy at this, a young businessman by the name of David Sheepshanks wrote a letter to the board expressing his unhappiness at this. To his surprise, the existing board invited this exciting young individual (who coincidentally just happened to have been educated at Eton like the rest of them, and was also director of the club's main sponsor) onto the board. 

Just under two decades later Ipswich Town, under the the stewardship of dynamic chairman, rebuit their two end stands. Instead of repeating his predecessors mistakes of selling the best players, instead he had the genuis idea of taking out a £25million loan, which would need to be repaid at £2million a year of the Premiership prize money that they would reap (as long as they didn't get relegated between 2001 and 1025, because they needed to sell £2m of players to survive in the Championship before they reached the Premier League). After getting relegated in 2002 (partly because the players failed to adjust to playing in front of a building site), Ipswich went into administration, took a payment holiday, rescheduled their payments so they paid just the interest, and have paid around £5m so far. Their owner having ought the mortgage/bond/whatever you want to call it for around £6 (depending in reports), meaning that Aviva have received less than half of what they lent the club, whereas club owner Marcus Evans retains the debt (gathering 8% interest) and is owed 600% of the amound he bought the debt dor (on top of everything else the clubs owns him).

On the pitch, Ipswich have yet to recover from the building of the stands.</description>
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            <title>Good lord but Stewart Lee is bloody funny - by: Jimmy Bignutz</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,612963/#613298</link>
            <description>There is an extra to the extra as well, a small follow-up book called the &quot;If you prefer a milder comedian EP&quot;, about his 2009-10 show.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>We'll play during the Gold Cup -  2011 MLS thread - by: Garamczy Antal</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,478281/limit,20/limitstart,860/#613286</link>
            <description>Indeed it is. (http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,613284/)

Ask and ye shall receive.</description>
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            <title>Books of the Year, 2011 - by: Renart</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,32/id,605173/#613256</link>
            <description>Should you ever find yourself in Austin, Texas, imp, UT's Harry Ransom Center has Spalding Gray's archives (http://bit.ly/d6HmUw), which are fascinating to look through. He wrote  Swimming to Cambodia  in this notebook:

http://www.utexas.edu/opa/blogs/culturalcompass/files/8/SwimmingCoverBlog.jpg</description>
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            <title>2011 Gigs - by: MsD</title>
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            <description>Two wonderful gigs last week: Horse Brothers at the 12 Bar, and a surprise gig from The Cannibals at the Stag's Head in Dalston - a fine little venue with great sound.

I really hope The Cannibals play more. I resisted the urge to shout for &quot;Johnny&quot; or &quot;Suspicious Minds&quot;, and we got their own stuff plus covers of Gloria, Too Much to Dream and other garage/psychbeat/whatever classics. Very tight band.</description>
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            <title>He's back (part 246) - by: Harry Truscott</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,611602/limit,20/limitstart,140/#613113</link>
            <description>http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2012/1/9/1326132481296/Roberto-Mancini-007.jpg

I'm concerned that the stress has sent Mancini in to the nunhood.</description>
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            <title>Where's my cocking apostrophe? - by: stonelephant</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,612432/limit,20/limitstart,20/#613098</link>
            <description> Zuma Kahuna wrote: 
 Apostrophe is being re-released with special bonus material. The new album is called ... 

like that Led Zep one with the funny symbols. 

Like:

peter gabriel
peter gabriel
peter gabriel
and peter gabriel?</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Choose a blu-ray player for me - by: hobbes</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,612944/#613097</link>
            <description>Oh god yeah, obviously a PS3 is the way forward. I don't think Tubby is a gamer though.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>The Wulff  saga - by: Alderman Barnes</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,612207/#613072</link>
            <description> treibeis wrote: 
 One of the tabloids nicknamed her Tattoo-Betty. Ever since I read that, I've had this bloody earworm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-n_eqW1qoM). 

Ugh.

I had this:

http://www.radiotimes.com/Libraries/News_and_blogs_images/Frank-Spencer_3.sflb.ashx</description>
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            <title>Play, right? - by: Rogin the sunlounger fan</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,612950/#613052</link>
            <description>If you want something for a small cast and a one-room set, surely that Mike Leigh one, Abigail's Party? Its exposure of middle class pretensions is as valid now (arguably more so) as it was in the 1970s (and I gues with permission you could even update some of the cultural references).</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>World Cup winners make poor managers - by: Jupp04</title>
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            <description> treibeis wrote: 
  For about 20 minutes in 1998. 

Don't be rotten. It was at least 17 hours (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Breitner#Sonstiges). 

Yeah, then those two dressmen took over ...
http://www.11freunde.de/img/artikel/144545_huge.jpg</description>
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            <title>Unsung heroes - by: Furtho</title>
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            <description>Today by Talk Talk seems to fit the bill.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Caveman Food - by: Stumpy Pepys</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,610911/limit,20/limitstart,40/#613039</link>
            <description> Sam Kelly wrote: 
 That, and the fact we're not being chased and eaten by dinosaurs as much as they were. 

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/172/431306643_528c65a6b3.jpg</description>
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            <title>quick quiz. - by: The Awesome Berbaslug!!!</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,612955/#613011</link>
            <description>oh fuck it. It's the number of games started by xavi for barcelona and spain.

in his busiest three seasons there he played 47 times or spain</description>
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            <title>Xpert Eleven - under new management - by: dglhand of god</title>
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            <description>I might write if I remember to set my team.</description>
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            <title>New Android phones - by: axel</title>
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            <description>You all sound like knowledgeable chaps on this thread so I'm hoping you can help me. Could you explain how I transfer files from one SD card to another in the simplest terms possible.
I have a HTC Desire and have bought a much larger memory card and want to transfer my existing phone files onto it. Is it just a matter of saving them onto my PC, putting my new card in my phone and then transferring them from the computer to the phone?
I keep seeing card readers advertised for sale, but can't see why I would need one if I just have my trusty USB!
Thanks in advance.
BTW I'm more than happy with the HTC, and will be Keeping it for the foreseeable.</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Countries that renounced independence - by: Garamczy Antal</title>
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            <description>Well, if we're going to include countries that committed suicide in the face of threats of invasion one could include Bohemia, 1939.

Not my time period, really, but presumably, large numbers of small statelets gave up sovereignty voluntarily in 1871 when German unification came around.

Also, Lithuania gave up sovereignty to Poland in the Union of Lublin (1570-ish).  A bit like Scotland and England, I think.


Later edit: The Bohemia reference is bollocks, isn't it?  Forget I said it.</description>
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            <title>SJS to emigrate - by: Sam Kelly</title>
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            <description> My Name Is Ian wrote: 
 Good lord. EIM is back. 

Thus ruining my thread title. Thanks a lot!</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Love Thy Neighbour - by: Chinglish Teacher</title>
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            <description>Ah, the reason Tudou and Youku are not censored in Beijing is because they seek to comply with China's censorship standards. Something politically incriminating would be gone fast.</description>
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            <description>I just presumed it was a gag?</description>
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            <title>Chirac - passes it to Sarkozy ... Oh, Cantona!!! - by: Zuma Kahuna</title>
            <link>http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,28/id,612714/#612750</link>
            <description>And we're taking a break from &quot;amazing&quot;.</description>
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            <title>Great sport documentaries - recommend some! - by: nmrfox</title>
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            <description>Johhny Owen - the Long Journey 

Death on the Mountain - The Story of Tom Simpson

Excellent documentaries but both are tragically painful viewing however.</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>So this Facebook thing... - by: Renart</title>
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            <description> The Exploding Vole wrote: 
 I can't escape the notion that Facebook is the narcissist's best friend. 

That's not fair. It's also good for voyeurs.

As for the  Guardian  thing, I think you can avoid it if you don't &quot;like&quot; the  Guardian  on Facebook or accept their application and just read articles on their website. But maybe I'm wrong about that?</description>
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            <description>Those will be those international league tables that the researchers say shouldn't be used as league tables?

Of course, no entering kids for &quot;dumbed down&quot; subjects has ever gone on at an academy.

http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6049288

 Less than half of academies’ “GCSE” passes are made up of academic GCSEs, according to new government figures.

The statistics also show that the state-funded independents make twice as much use of vocational and other non-GCSE “equivalent” qualifications as other state secondaries. </description>
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            <title>That Vini Reilly feeling - by: benjm</title>
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            <description>Tubby, I think your reaction to Morrissey's recruiting Vini was probably the consensus view. 

I really like The Durutti Column but tend to think of them - don't forget Bruce - as doomed to languish in obscurity. This is due in part to their music but, back then, was not helped by Factory's hopeless word of mouth only non-marketing stance. 

One side effect of this obscurity is that it is quite exciting when the DC do occasionally brush up against the mainstream. Their appearance on the soundtrack of  Jerry Maguire  remains a favourite. Cameron Crowe must be a fan.</description>
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            <description>Ha! I win.</description>
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            <title>Nick Barmby has retired. - by: hobbes</title>
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            <description>I think he'll be really really good at retirement for the first 3 months or so, before fading badly.</description>
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            <description> BBC wrote: 
 The Nations Cup, which also includes Wales, Scotland and the Republic of Ireland, suffered from poor attendances and a row over competition fees at last year's inaugural tournament 

Scotland asked for a fixed fee, Wales and NI were content with a share of the total profits. Trouble is, the two figures turned outto be almost identical, leading the other three countries trying to persuade the Scots to renegotiate downward.

 But, at the inaugural tournament in Dublin, some Northern Ireland fans boycotted games because of their anger over the Republic of Ireland selecting Northern Ireland-born players 

Not quite. The NI fans' boycott was proposed because of the IFA's over-reaction in insisting that everyone had to bus down from Belfast in a convoy, rather than travelling independently. The eligibility row was only used as an excuse later- this was made clear on NI fan sites  OWC and ILS.</description>
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            <description>It's amazing, isn't it? (The advert, not  Bailando .)

I can't decide what I like most: the fact that the makers don't appear to have realised how similar it is the the scene in  Zoolander , the fact it's so utterly pointless (if less twattish than most perfume/cologne adverts), the fact the product has such a naff name (another popular Argentine brand of cologne - and I'm not making this up - is called Kevin), or the fact that this man, presumably a professional model, has the largest, most unkempt eyebrows I've ever fucking seen.</description>
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