Comments for Real Madrid tolerate fascism at http://www.wsc.co.uk , comment 0 to 5 out of 5 comments http://www.wsc.co.uk Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:51:37 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/2531/38/#pc_269 I do agree with Ian's statement on Real Madrid being Franco's pet club. Mostly because in the 60s Real had a great football team, and it was easy for Franco to use it as an excuse for his centralized fascist politics in Spain. The fact that he supported Real Madrid is not important here, as he luckily had no influence in Real's victories. But he could have had some of that in Real's finances and footballers signings. We have some racial problems here in Spain, but who doesn't? The problem is the different treatment we are giving to the problem. Mainly because our democracy already is too young. We need to asume this as a real problem and act against racism and fascism, as it is a shame for all of us. - xlucavix Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:19:40 +0100 http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/2531/38/#pc_261 ForxaBarca: Surely Ian "singled out" Real Madrid because Real Madrid was singled out by referee Burrull. Had Burrull reported Barcelona for such behaviour, Ian presumably would have "singled out" Barcelona. And Ian's point stands: there is a deplorable lack of outrage. - G.Man wants a jihad Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:06:11 +0100 http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/2531/38/#pc_260 Yes Joan Laporta adressed the issue by banning members of Boixos Nois and their neo-nazi agenda from the Nou Camp, and with that has banned their violence, their facist salutes & their chants of 'Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil'. Members of Ultra Sur group are still welcome in the Bernabeu. - philnolan16 Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:07:18 +0100 http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/2531/38/#pc_259 Didn't Laporta kick out Boixos Nois from the Nou Camp? - radmonkey Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:10:47 +0100 http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/2531/38/#pc_258 Ian: "We all know that Spain only came out of fascist dictatorship in the 1970s, and that Real was General Franco’s pet club." This is not a factual statement. Others far more well versed in Spanish footballing politics than I have argued that Real Madrid in the 1950s-60s had an abundance of highly gifted players who thoroughly dominated European football-an area where Franco's reach was nullified. The link between Franco and Real is rather tenuous. Perhaps you can convince me otherwise. You have not mentioned that Barcelona has its Boixos Nois or that other clubs have a racist element in their stands. It seems that you have unfairly singled out Real Madrid, in part because you falsely assume that they carried the torch for Franco or vice versa. You have correctly mentioned that Real Madrid's players have largely kept silent about the fascist element in their stands. But did the then Real Madrid's David Beckham chastise the Spanish when Ashley Cole and Emile Heskey were roundly abused in Spain? Not that I can recollect. Did Gerrard or Terry or Lampard stand up for Theo Walcott who was abused racially in Croatia? Not that I can remember. Samuel Eto'o, on the other hand, has spoken out about racism in the Spanish club football. Real Madrid's players silence is a shame as is the boorish behavior of most Spaniards where Black players are involved. Is the imitation of gas chambers supposed to offend the Black players or Osasuna's Iranian player? Or does Osasuna have a Jewish connection? Moreover, Real Madrid's Ultra Sur have used the gas hissing sound effect whenever Real Madrid plays Athletic because Athletic is the symbolic Basque institution. What then of Osasuna which is also a Basque club, albeit with non-Basque players? - ForxaBarca Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:03:09 +0100