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#16833
posted 22-04-2008 20:16

 
How is my opinion "personal" and yet your assertion that it's "brilliant" is somehow, er, universal?
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posted 22-04-2008 20:21

 
I'm not claiming it as "universal", but I'll refer you to the posts of G-Man, Not me and Derek for explanations as to why I think it is.
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#16840
posted 22-04-2008 20:31

 
I just have a hard time accepting the claim that I should keep plowing through a particular style of music even though I've never really liked a single disco record I've ever heard before (although some are worse than others and some are very tolerable). On that top 500 disco singles list, I count at least 100 that I know I've heard more than once. How many do I have to listen to before I can give up?
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#16908
posted 22-04-2008 22:06

 
I think I know where you're coming from, Reed. I had the same kind of intolerance towards country, believing the genre to consist almost exclusively of the Good Ole Boys from The Blues Brothers types. Dolly Parton didn't, and doesn't, do it for me. I don't know how it happened, but at some point I started to investigate the rich legacy of country, and discovered that there was much that was wonderful there. I still can't bear the Good Ole Boys types, and I believe that capital punishment should be unopposed if Achy Breaky Heart constitutes a hanging offence.

YMCA and Heart Of Glass are entirely peripheral to disco. Chic is at the centre, but there's lots of disco stuff you have not heard. As in country, the really good stuff often fails to chart or get airplay (when last, to return to me country analogy, did you hear John Prine anywhere?).

I wrote a blog post based on this thread last week. In it, I divide disco into a few sub-genres. Perhaps you'll be represent your view more comprehensively or be able to adapt it by checking out some of the sample tracks I uploaded...
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#16918
posted 22-04-2008 22:19

 
I'll listen to your sample tracks.

Country is now set up such that the music that most closely resembles the oldest sounds of Appalachia - bluegrass, the Carter Family and even honky-tonk (I'm not entirely sure I can define that) are no classified as either "Alternative Country" or "the Edge of Country" or not country at all.

Meanwhile, the music that passes as country on the radio is mostly really bland pop music with a few traditional country instruments thrown in in post-production.

I don't know of any other genre to go full circle like that. I guess the equivalent would be for a rockabilly act wearing ironic t-shirts to come out of Brooklyn and and be called "post-rock" by Pitchfork.
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posted 22-04-2008 22:34

 
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I don't know of any other genre to go full circle like that.

How about rock?
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#16942
posted 23-04-2008 00:02

 
You know, come to think of it, you're right. Not quite with the rockabilly, perhaps - I'm not aware of anyone calling that cutting edge or post-rock - but acts like White Stripes are sometimes called "alternative" and Bruce Springsteen seemed to confuse a lot of people when he decided to honor Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger.
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posted 23-04-2008 14:09

 
I think my dismay at the bolding comes from when they used to do it to my pieces on my work's website - I objected to the subs deciding which bit of text was more important than the rest. It's all gold.
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posted 23-04-2008 14:47

 
Yeah, but the part where you said Two Pints of Lager is all ill-advised sex and boozy regret - and I can't get enough of it! was definitely the best.
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posted 23-04-2008 14:53

 
Carcass wrote:
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Reed: FUCKING TAKE IT SOMWHERE ELSE MAN!
Yo, JD, stick to your own website with the carping, this has been an interesting read.

Unsurprisingly I agree with E10 on here. However I still have my suspicions that SR is a disco-nazi...
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posted 23-04-2008 14:54

 
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Yeah, but the part where you said Two Pints of Lager is all ill-advised sex and boozy regret - and I can't get enough of it! was definitely the best.
But when they put it on the front of the series twelve DVD, I felt cheap.
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posted 23-04-2008 15:00

 
Gangster Octopus wrote:
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Carcass wrote:
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Reed: FUCKING TAKE IT SOMWHERE ELSE MAN!
Yo, JD, stick to your own website with the carping, this has been an interesting read.

Unsurprisingly I agree with E10 on here. However I still have my suspicions that SR is a disco-nazi...


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#17420
posted 23-04-2008 17:35

 
Is your bemusement due to GO writing so many words in one post, or is it due to the content of his post?
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posted 24-04-2008 12:19

 
Sorry Reed. It seemed to be an argument that had died out days earlier just to be reignited the second I posted on here.

Just for the sake of clarity - I'm doing this because time and time again people have said they'd like to read an OTF magazine. I'm using a load of OTF writers and am open to pitches from other people. I believe genuinely that people are interested in reading what they have to say and if it's made clear to me that they aren't then I'll consider what I'm doing spamming and stop it quick smart.

Which leads me neatly on to this:

We've put what is arguably our best feature to date up: Taylor's review of the new Fall album. And I've not even read Derek's defence of Jay Z yet but that will be up by 6pm.

Cheers.
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posted 24-04-2008 12:21

 
My co-pilot who knows about the internet says as much as he doesn't like the bolding, studies show that people will spend longer on a site if there is bolding, pictures, You Tube snippets etc.
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