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posted 08-08-2008 22:01

 
BrunoMaggiore wrote:
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Incidentally it occurs to me that Europeans ought to be grateful the left in America still clings a bit to patriotism. If they adopted the sensible position and rejected its use as the yardstick of eligibility to lead, if they rejected patriotism, they'd promptly lose every one of their elected seats and then what would you have, you'd all be dreaming of the days there were patriotic American liberals wouldn't you.


Well, you know, if the American left adopted a non (if not anti) patriotic position, you'd assume the electors of the American left would be included as much as the politicians.

And, of course, it might behove politicians of the US left to try and lead public opinion rather than join the GOP in a race for the most populist common denominator.
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posted 08-08-2008 22:26

 
Well, you know, if the American left adopted a non (if not anti) patriotic position, you'd assume the electors of the American left would be included as much as the politicians.

I've had this same thought, it's just difficult to see how it's the sort of position you adopt, collectively. I'm not familiar with exactly how the countries where patriotism, benign or malign, is virulently unpopular political fodder, got to the point of enjoying that state of affairs.

And, of course, it might behove politicians of the US left to try and lead public opinion rather than join the GOP in a race for the most populist common denominator.

Must be something about the two party system that leads to this kind of death embrace.
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posted 08-08-2008 22:35

 
BrunoMaggiore wrote:
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[i]I'm not familiar with exactly how the countries where patriotism, benign or malign, is virulently unpopular political fodder, got to the point of enjoying that state of affairs.


Ah. Well, you see, there was this war that started in 1939 that involved almost everyone in Europe...
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posted 08-08-2008 22:41

 
I would've thought WWII was a sure cure for nationalism, but not necessarily patriotism.
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posted 12-08-2008 16:52

 
Worst argument against Obama's candidacy ever:
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When Gene Rutherford, 65, tries to make sense of the meteoric rise of Barack Obama, and the rampant enthusiasm for him among younger Americans, he thinks of the local mall, where as director of operations he often deals with teenagers.

"Kids today have been given everything they want, and don't have to work for it. They have no respect for authority," said Rutherford, standing at the bar at the Elks lodge here. "They'll make remarks right to the face of the [mall] cops. I get to the point where I want to do something," he said, cocking a fist as if to threaten a punch. "But the police say we can't, that we just have to stand there." It makes him worry for the country. "I see it going the Roman way."

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Trying to sustain itself amid the city's changes is the local branch of the Elks Club, the 140-year-old fraternal organization, which like similar groups is losing members. Rutherford, who served two terms as his branch's "exalted leader," sees a link between falling membership -- from 1,200 a decade ago to 680 today -- and Obama's popularity among local youths.

"Kids want to think for themselves -- they don't care what Mom and Dad say," said Rutherford, a burly man with a Manhattan in his hand. "This was a Republican stronghold, but it's changing very quickly because it's 'Mom and Dad, you're Republican, so I ain't ever going to be one of them.' "


Damn those voting age kids, always thinking for themselves.
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posted 12-08-2008 16:59

 
He's right about the no respect entitled part, though.
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posted 13-08-2008 18:33

 
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posted 13-08-2008 18:43

 
Even O'Reilly is smirking in amused disbelief at the crap Coulter is coming out with there. Bizarre.
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