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posted 07-07-2008 15:22
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...according to World Soccer:
1) Barcelona V Real Madrid
2) Boca Juniors v River Plate
3) Celtic v Rangers
4) Galatasaray v Fenerbahce
5) Ajax v Feyenoord
6) Lazio v Roma
7) Schalke v Borussia Dortmund
8) Al Ahly v Zamalek
9) Betis v Sevilla
10) Partizan Belgrade v Red Star Belgrade
Any obvious omissions? Benfica v Porto? Liverpool v Man Utd? Flamengo v Vasco da Gama?
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posted 07-07-2008 15:23
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Spurs v Gooners
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posted 07-07-2008 15:26
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Hofzinser wrote:
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...according to World Soccer:
1) Barcelona V Real Madrid
The word "derby" obviously means something different out there in the world as opposed to here in the UK...
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posted 07-07-2008 15:28
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Barcelona v Real?
Having seen a few on tv the lack of any large away support stops the atmosphere from reaching the heights of an old firm clash which is the only one on that list I've had the pleasure of attending
If you want atmosphere, goals, on pitch violence and comedy defending Villa/Blues takes some beating
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posted 07-07-2008 15:29
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The whole point of a derby is two teams from the same city.
If Barcelona v Real Madrid is a derby, then so are Man United v Chelsea and Milan v Juventus.
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posted 07-07-2008 15:35
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I think the rest of the world uses "derby" to mean a rivalry, not necessarily one between teams from the same city. I mean, in Mexico America v. Pumas or Cruz Azul is a big deal, but nowhere near America v. Chivas (one of the most obvious ones missing from that list).
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posted 07-07-2008 15:39
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I think it's pretty clear from the list that they take "derby" to mean "rivalry".
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posted 07-07-2008 15:39
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Or, more specifically, the matches that are played between those involved in the rivalry.
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posted 07-07-2008 15:40
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The whole point of a derby is two teams from the same city
So Newcastle-Sunderland, Cardiff-Swansea, Southampton-Portsmouth aren't derbies?
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posted 07-07-2008 15:43
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I prefer the term clasico. And when something is really big, superclasico.
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posted 07-07-2008 15:45
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Inca wrote:
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I think the rest of the world uses "derby" to mean a rivalry, not necessarily one between teams from the same city.
But latin-speakers use Classico to describe this exact type of game. Derby is a completely British term and means something totally different to Classico. In Portugal the big derby is Braga V Guimarães, the big classico is Benfica V Porto.
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Last Edit: 07-07-2008 15:46 By steveeeeeeeee.
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posted 07-07-2008 15:55
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FWIW, the "Derby d'Italia" is between Inter and Juventus.
I find the list rather strange, unless they have seriously discounted atmosphere in and around the ground on the day as one of their criteria. Barca-Madrid and Boca-River are both great rivalries between storied clubs with huge numbers of supporters, but one's experience of the matches on the ground is dramatically different.
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posted 07-07-2008 16:14
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the self consciously ABPL attitude of World Soccer is rather Grating.
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posted 07-07-2008 16:17
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As is your assumption that the Premier League contains the country's best derbies...
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posted 07-07-2008 16:20
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Isn't Juve-Roma called the derby of the sun?
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posted 07-07-2008 16:20
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Erm, no.
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posted 07-07-2008 16:25
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the self consciously ABPL attitude of World Soccer is rather Grating
Well that's kind of why I started the thread. What English derby should be in there then, and why? What should it replace in the list?
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