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posted 27-06-2008 13:15

 
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Brian McClair strikes me as being a seriously cool footballer.


His book is very interesting too. The line about pub footballers in Scotland is very funny.
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posted 27-06-2008 13:23

 
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Rino: I hadn't made that assumption. Indeed, someone on here once mentioned a couple of East German footballers who had been working for the Stasi, and who had to keep a low profile after reunification.

I can't find any reference to those players on the net, but I did find something that shocked me: apparently, Katarina Witt was a Stasi informer. I think I've just fallen out of love.


Ah, the generously-bosomed figure skater was always my favourite rhyming slang for having a dump. "Just going for a Katarina..."
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posted 27-06-2008 13:25

 
I tend to go for an Eartha
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posted 27-06-2008 13:35

 
I tend to call it a 'Brad' nowadays.
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posted 27-06-2008 13:37

 
I'm sure either Mark Falco or Tony Galvin was in the Workers' Revolutionary Party.
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posted 27-06-2008 13:46

 
Don't forget Felchester Rovers...
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posted 27-06-2008 14:15

 
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Fuck off is Fowler getting in this team. He's a property owning slum lord.


And a homophobe.
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posted 27-06-2008 16:42

 
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I'm sure either Mark Falco or Tony Galvin was in the Workers' Revolutionary Party


I seem to recall Galvin had a degree in Russian, putting 2 and 2 together that's another one
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posted 27-06-2008 17:01

 
Walter Smith could be a good call for the manager. But I doubt I could watch the game.
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posted 27-06-2008 20:18

 
Gordon Smith current Chief Executive of the SFA and of 'Smith must score' fame was quite political in his younger days, his father was a Labour councillor as well (although you might be hard pushed to find a Scottish footballer who isn't left wing).
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posted 27-06-2008 20:26

 
Wasn't the dockworkers t-shirt Steve McManaman's idea, so wouldn't he deserve a vote?
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posted 27-06-2008 20:35

 
Being a spy for the regime is not left-wing to me, but what do I know.

Includign St Pauli as a whole is nonsense, especially nowadays, but back in the late 1980s they had Volker Ippig in goal, who definitely fits the bill. After school he volunteered to work in Nicaragua and already whilst playing in the third and second division, he lived in the occupied houses in Hamburg's famous Hafenstrasse.

When Felix Magath took over at Wolfsburg, he gave Ippig a job (who had been at near-bankrupt Lübeck at the time) as a keeper-coach. The picture shows him at a St Pauli Nostalgia XI match last year.

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posted 27-06-2008 22:00

 
A case for Mattias Sindelar?

"When Germany seized Austria in the Anschluss of March 1938, Sindelar was asked to play for the new united national team. He refused, pleading old age. However, Germany's manager Sepp Herberger would later recall: "I almost had the impression that discomfort and rejection, linked to the political developments, had prompted his refusal. I felt I understood him. He appeared liberated when I told him so."

Sindelar told the old chairman of his club Austria Vienna, ostracized as a Jew: 'The new chairman has forbidden me to greet you, but I, Herr Doktor, will always greet you.'
Certainly, writes the German historian Nils Havemann, the Nazi authorities in Vienna had marked Sindelar down as "very friendly to Jews" and "fairly rejecting" of party meetings. When Sindelar bought a cafÈ from a Jew who had been forced to sell, he paid a fair price. In his Viennese dialect he told the old chairman of his club Austria Vienna, ostracized as a Jew: "The new chairman has forbidden me to greet you, but I, Herr Doktor, will always greet you."

Then there was the famous match to celebrate the Anschluss: a German select XI against Ostmark, the new name for the province that had once been Austria. Sindelar reportedly missed so many chances that he seemed to be taunting the Nazis, showing the crowd that the result had been ordered by the authorities.

Finally he did deign to score, and the Ostmark won 2-0. After the second goal, he danced before the main stand packed with Nazi dignitaries. Havemann notes that Sindelar might also have been disgruntled that the Nazis, by banning professional football, had taken away his livelihood."


A case for FC Start?

"The German Luftwaffe team Flakelf asked for a re-match, which was planned on 9 August at Zenit stadium. An SS officer was appointed as referee, and FC Start were aware that he would be biased against them. Some anonymous sources warned FC Start of possible punishment if they did not lose the game up to the Germans.[citations needed] Despite this, the team decided to play as always. They also refused to give a Nazi salute to their opponents before the match.

Just as the the FC Start players expected, the Nazi referee ignored Flakelf fouls. The German team quickly targeted the goalkeeper Trusevych who, after a sustained campaign of physical challenges, was kicked in the head by a Flakelf forward and left groggy. While Trusevych was recovering, Flakelf went one goal up.

The referee continued to ignore FC Start appeals against their opponents' violence. The Flakelf team went on with their war of intimidation using all the tactics of a dirty team, going for the man not the ball, shirt-holding, and tackling from behind, as well as going over the ball. Despite this FC Start scored with a long shot from a free kick by Kuzmenko. Then Honcharenko, against the run of play, dribbled the ball around almost the entire Flakelf defence and tapped it into in the German net to make the score 2-1. By half-time, FC Start were yet another goal up.

The second half was almost an anti-climax. Each side scored twice. Towards the end of the match, with FC Start in an almost unbeatable position at 5-3, Klimenko, a defender, got the ball, beat the entire German rearguard and walked around the German goalkeeper. Then, instead of letting it cross the goal line, he turned around and kicked the ball back towards the centre circle. The SS referee blew the final whistle before the ninety minutes were up."


Beckenbauer V Breitner

"Simon Kuper selects ultra-bourgeois Franz Beckenbauer and Maoist teammate Paul Breitner for his Political Football First XI.

It barely made the news outside Germany. Bayern Munich are planning to give their ex-player Paul Breitner a contract as an adviser. "Once an expert, always an expert," explained Bayern's general manager Uli Hoeness, who as a young man once hid Breitner in the cellar of their shared house.

Franz Beckenbauer, Bayern's president and a fellow world champion of Breitner's and Hoeness's in 1974, had presumably approved the contract. Breitner said he was so happy at Bayern he didn't need a contract, but that wasn't the point. One of postwar Germany's great political conflicts had quietly ended.

When the teenaged Breitner came to Bayern from a small southern German town in 1970, he was one of many young Germans inspired by the student rebellions of 1968. In an unfocused way, "Red Paul" was a rebel. He grew a beard, claimed to read Lenin and Marx, and when called up for the army hid in the cellar while Hoeness told the military police, "He isn't here."

Most famously of all, Breitner had himself photographed seated in a rocking chair beneath a poster of Mao Tse-Tung, while supposedly reading a Chinese communist propaganda newspaper. In an added flourish, a Boxer dog sat on the floor beside Breitner.

Most famously, Breitner had himself photographed seated in a rocking chair beneath a poster of Mao Tse-Tung, while supposedly reading a Chinese communist propaganda newspaper.

Today the picture seems hilarious. Breitner is obviously trying to look like a child's idea of a European intellectual, with beard and newspaper, as if he were Lenin in Switzerland waiting for the revolution instead of a left-back. By the time of the photograph Mao had killed millions of Chinese, but Breitner, like most western Maoists, was not bothered about detail.

As a left-back, Breitner fit perfectly into the brilliant Bayern team. As a leftie, he could not have chosen a worse club. The dominant figure at Bayern was the libero Franz Beckenbauer. Like Breitner, Beckenbauer thought about life beyond football, but came to the opposite conclusions. When Breitner saw Germans in power, he wanted to rebel. Beckenbauer wanted to join them.

The "Kaiser" was an instinctive bourgeois. He had married young - to the first in a parade of elegant blondes - bought a semi-detached house, and taken elocution lessons. He always tried to ally himself with the powers that be: with the conservative Christian Social Union that has ruled Bavaria for decades, and with Germany's mighty right-wing tabloid Bild Zeitung.

Inevitably Breitner got up his nose. In fact he got up the noses of most conservative Germans when he said, for instance, that listening to the national anthem before international matches "ruins the concentration". Opposing fans who bought into Breitner's pose would scream "Maoist! Communist!" at him. His response: "You know what? I'd really wanted to play normally. But you're shouting such rubbish that to shut your mouths I'll play even better."

Sadly for Breitner, although he was a demon of the right, he never became a hero of the '68 left. That role went to the long-haired hedonist Gunter Netzer, even though Netzer was apolitical. Breitner was too weird, difficult, unglamorous to be a hero.

Yet Breitner was much more like Beckenbauer than he let on. Both men were born capitalists. Breitner, who drove a Maserati, once said he would market his backside if necessary."

From http://www.channel4.com/news/general/political_football
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posted 28-06-2008 02:53

 
Any takers for Russian speaker and dedicated Marxist Tony Galvin?
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