Gangster Octopus wrote:

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Ferrari's lack of a lolly fucks them up again. That new system's just not working.

How many places and points will the deduct from McLaren for that then?

None.

Unless it turns out that they nicked those too . . .

A very worthy winner in Alonso, who was clearly the best on the grid over the course of the weekend.

Alonso was a very worthy winner, but the real victor today was karma. Now we can forget about all the silly circular wrangling regarding the Belgian Grand Prix, and get on with it.

I must confess I had a hearty chuckle when I realised that, had it not been for all of 2007's unpleasantness, the fuel hose in that garage would have belonged to McLaren. Ferrari, hoist by their own self-righteousness.

This said, I still fancy Massa could just sneak this year's title. Hamilton is starting to look a little bit ragged.

I don't know - Rosberg could make a good case for that too, considering the unfortunate nature of his 10 second penalty.

"How many places and points will the deduct from McLaren for that then?"

I don't know, but Massa's penalty for it killed any hope he had of getting any points. Still, must remember it's McLaren and Hamilton they have it in for.

Gangster Octopus wrote:

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So why didn't Massa get a drive-through in Valencia when he did exactly the same thing?

Massas Valencia pit stop was his second of the race and so in the final third of the race when the stewards tend to put their feet up, have a nice brew and watch the closing few laps, and defer any penalties till after the race, it's common policy, and they did the same thing at Spa with Hamilton. It appeared at Valencia they wanted to be fair without impacting the championship. Altho I did find it funny that a Ferrari gets a penalty when in 18th place that drops him to, er, 18th place when a fine might have been a far bigger punishment and gets a fine when he's winning a race! Still great race today, well deserved Alonso and Rosberg, Singapore looks a good addittion to the calender.

Formula 1 looks far better at night. It looked a bit Ridge Racer. Put some UV lighting under the cars and it't be even better.

If you want cars streaking around a street circuit at night, with UV lights under them, just take a trip to Camberley, Nish.

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I don't know, but Massa's penalty for it killed any hope he had of getting any points. Still, must remember it's McLaren and Hamilton they have it in for.

Nope, his pulling out in front of another car in the pitlane and driving down it with the fuel rig still attached was what killed any hope of him getting points.

Nishlord wrote:

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Formula 1 looks far better at night. It looked a bit Ridge Racer. Put some UV lighting under the cars and it't be even better.

Nish: that was the first thing I thought of.

Great race though, although, the straits (sic) could have been wider.

I'm going to ram the jumped-up little cunt off the road, rages Raikonnen

Well he doesn't - obviously - but I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Massa first on the grid for the final race, Raikonnen surprisingly drops down to third (behind Trulli!) so he can line up next to Hamilton.

Hamilton and Raikonnen to take each other off at the first corner tomorrow and everyone will go home saying how it's "all part of racing".

A soggy race. Excellent.

Sadly it's stopped raining.

They now say it's about to start raining again.

That's what I call a grandstand finish!!!

If Ferrari had won like that...