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posted 28-03-2008 10:40
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Unfortunately I can't get hold of a copy of the email, but according to a poster on one of the Oldham forums an email from Liam Daish was sent to all MFC members covering, amongst other topics, team selection. It seems that they're now polling members on whether the manager should have the ability to ignore votes taken by members on team selection, and to make his own choice. Daish comments that he has concerns on switching over to allow members to radically change team selection this close to the end of the season and with a trophy on the cards.
It'll be interesting if this change goes ahead - effectively removing one of the key selling points of the experiment, and arguably making the MFC members investors without dividends rather than active participants. Schadenfreude isn't classy, but I'm hoping this is another nail in the coffin of this particular set-up.
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posted 28-03-2008 11:09
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I didn't realise that they had been picking the team.
Wasn't that supposed to be the subject of a vote right after the takeover was finalised? Did Daish "lose" that one?
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posted 28-03-2008 11:16
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I don't think they have - I think it had been expected (proposed?) that this would start before the end of the season though.
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posted 28-03-2008 11:21
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I would have thought that if the manager didn't follow what the shareholders wanted, they could hold a vote to sack him.
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posted 28-03-2008 11:22
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I get the impression that "they" (presumably the powers-that-be at MFC) are polling the members on giving the manager the right to ignore them. I have no idea how well that will be received.
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posted 28-03-2008 11:28
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I think that goldstone is still a member.
Messing with team selection at this point of the season strikes me as absolute madness.
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posted 28-03-2008 11:35
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That's the point Daish is making in his email. It'll be interesting to see whether it becomes a longer-term situation and extends into next season.
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posted 28-03-2008 12:19
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I had heard that they were planning to let the MyFC members pick the team for the Trophy Final as the first match, for the publicity - not sure if there's any truth in this or not, though , but I didn't think they'd started yet, though I can get a definitivie answer on this tonight. To be honest, I'm surprised that cracks in the unity have taken this long to show. If Daish doesn't like it, then tough. He should have spoken out against it before it went through. Now they've done it, though, he can't pick & mix which matches the team they choose the team for.
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posted 28-03-2008 12:22
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We visit Gravesend for the last game of the season. Someone suggested that we all join up and then select their shittiest team, but I suspect there are safeguards against that sort of malarkey (and we'll lose anyway).
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posted 28-03-2008 12:52
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I watched their game on Setanta the other day. Seems a bit bizarre the way they've started chants with the Ebbsfleet name ("We love you Ebbsfleet, we do")
Good game though, even if Cambridge U did lose. Comedy goalkeeping from Mark Peters.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:18
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The switchover to team selection by the membership was supposed to be the end of March. As soon as they reached Wembley, first doubts emerged about whether or not Daish would end up picking the team for such an important game. Now it's becoming clear what a bollocks novelty idea the whole thing is for any game.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:42
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I thought Peters did quite well - even if he did look like a bit a random member of the crowd who piped up that he could play in goal
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posted 28-03-2008 13:49
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Ha. Can I just say I predicted this all along - Will Brooks was going to try and wheedle out of his committments because it was going to cost too much money and they didn't have it. His problem is that as far as I can tell, the only reason why a lot of people joined was for the team selection bit. Add the fact that many didn't even know of Ebbsfleet so the only thing keeping them onboard is the possibility of this, then all of a sudden they could have a crisis.
He might get it through the Board of the society overseeing the members, as the election results showed a fine split between interweb people and old-skool Ebssfleet fans; the latter will be more keen to side with Daish (and Brooks) than the former, but all added together it, looks a meety little problem and I'm fucking delighted.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:55
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Yeah, I agree Fauna - it wasn't like he could do anything about either of the goals, I just enjoyed the moving out and back in again that he was doing at corners.
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posted 28-03-2008 13:58
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QUOTE:
Dear Thomas
It's about five weeks since you took over Ebbsfleet United. And just 12 days ago your football club won an FA Trophy Semi Final to reach Wembley for the first time in its history. Not a bad start! Let's all hope it's a sign of things to come.
The MyFootballClub effect
I have to all say, all in all, it's been the most challenging, exciting and exhausting time in my managerial career. Meeting members in the supporters bar after matches has been an eye opener too. We've had a cowboy, someone from Moscow and a couple of lads who had popped over from LA to inspect their new purchase. After the Aldershot first Leg, a young lady dropped a red toothbrush in my pint of Guinness for luck. I was a bit miffed, but it seemed to work!
Joking aside, all the members have played a massive part in the team's success over the last four months. You've put your hands in your pockets to pay for new footballs and new portable goals. Honestly, the lads reacted like it was Christmas Day when they arrived. You paid for an overnight stay at Burton, where we got a draw on the road to Wembley. And the away support has been different class too. I know we bang on about it, but it does make a big difference knowing you are behind us.
Before MyFootballClub added some financial stability, there was a real danger I would have had to cut my playing budget. Instead, you've helped me hang on to players as well as extend the contracts of others. Again, this was key on our cup run.
I do read the forums, but excuse me for not posting. I do want to increase the interaction between us though. The relationship between manager and owners is vital at any football club. Even though there are over 29,000 of you, it's time to get the information flowing between us.
Picking the team
I have defended the team picking side of MyFootballClub from the beginning. Countless press interviews and live interviews on national radio and TV since 13 November 2007 are testament to that.
But with a month of this season left, I'm concerned about going from a standing start to members picking the team straight away. With two games a week, suspensions and niggly, persistent injuries to players like McCarthy and Akinde, I think it's a very tricky time to introduce our new system.
Some might say it's a perfect time to trial it, but I do think the opposite is the case. I believe, and I'm drumming into the players, we're still in the hunt for the play-offs. I've also drilled it in to the players that they still have their Wembley shirts to play for. My opinion would be that changing things now could affect mindsets and unsettle things.
That said, for the last month or so I have been looking at the team the members are picking each match. From now on, I want to give you all feedback on the team you pick. I'd also welcome any questions you have, like, 'why do you pick so-and-so?' or 'what are strengths of Woking? for example. There must be a million and one questions to ask, and I'll do my best to answer them.
I do see talk on the forums talk of a 'manager's choice' button and similar ideas. I think the members should decide if they want something like this and I'd feel more comfortable if this was addressed.
For background, please read the following article from the MyFC Board and thread.
I am more than happy to meet with some member representatives to discuss the team selection process. I hope this will put us in a strong position to be up and running, with everyone on side, for pre-season in July. In the meantime, the coaching staff and myself will provide as much feedback and interaction as possible for the last few weeks of the season.
I look forward to seeing many of you, thousands hopefully, at Wembley on 10 May when we take on Torquay United in the FA Trophy Final. Everyone at the club, including you, deserves it.
Believe
Liam
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The Web Team invites all members to take part in a poll regarding team selection. It will help the manager and members develop a team selection process that reflects the owners' wishes.
The poll, which you can take part in here, asks the following question:
Which statement best describes your view on "Pick the team"?
* I want to pick the team but I don't want the manager to make any changes to the members' selection
* I want to pick the team and I'd like the manager to have some flexibility to make changes to the members' selection
* I want to pick the team and I'd like the manager to consider, but not necessarily follow, the members' selection
* I am not interested in picking the team
* I abstain
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