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posted 22-04-2008 16:28

 
Miami Dolphins select..

Some jackass who won't pan out- given their history..

Here's the order of the draft:
1 Miami Dolphins
2 St. Louis Rams
3 Atlanta Falcons
4 Oakland Raiders
5 Kansas City Chiefs
6 New York Jets
7 New England Patriots* (from 49ers)
8 Baltimore Ravens
9 Cincinnati Bengals
10 New Orleans Saints
11 Buffalo Bills
12 Denver Broncos
13 Carolina Panthers
14 Chicago Bears
15 Detroit Lions
16 Arizona Cardinals
17 Minnesota Vikings
18 Houston Texans
19 Philadelphia Eagles
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
21 Washington Redskins
22 Dallas Cowboys* (from Browns)
23 Pittsburgh Steelers
24 Tennessee Titans
25 Seattle Seahawks
26 Jacksonville Jaguars
27 San Diego Chargers
28 Dallas Cowboys
29 San Francisco 49ers* (from Colts)
30 Green Bay Packers
31 New York Giants

The big question is whether the Bungles will rid themselves of Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson before the draft. Apparently the Redskins are trying to give up their draft picks for him- as they do every year for the disgruntled player of the year.. My Eagles and the Cowboys are also interested- but the Bengals aren't having it. I would almost love to see Johnson playing in Dallas with T.O. It would almost make this impending losing season (for my Eagles) worthwhile in entertainment value..
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posted 22-04-2008 16:45

 
Cheer up, Dynamo Kev, there's reason for optimism for the Eagles season. I'm not sure what it is yet, and I am sure to ignore it when it's presented b/c of my innate pessimism, but there must be some cause for optimism out there.
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posted 22-04-2008 16:48

 
Dan Snyder is still running the Redskins.
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posted 22-04-2008 17:02

 
There's nothing to be happy about.. Have you seen the schedule?- we're looking at 6-10.. Dallas @ home on the last week will be the end of the McNabb era (for better or worse).
Phunk this!! In this draft we need:
a #1 WR
short yardage RB
OT
3 LBs
Safety
DE who can get to the QB

that'll do..
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posted 22-04-2008 17:04

 
This is going to be fun. Gyuri can be positively Olympian in his pessimism on this particular subject.

I'm waiting for one of you to predict that they will be worse than the Raiders within half a dozen posts.
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posted 22-04-2008 17:16

 
QUOTE:
Dan Snyder is still running the Redskins.
If he ran the Cowboys and Giants, too, I'd be a little more optimistic.
QUOTE:
There's nothing to be happy about. Have you seen the schedule?
Schedules are hard to categorize before the season starts, as the quality of teams change pretty dramatically from year-to-year. For example, the Giants were pretty much a consensus last place team prior to last year.

As for draft needs, I don't think there's a #1 WR in the draft, and I certainly don't trust our ability to find one. I'd rank our needs as:
1. OT
2. Safety
3. Middle LB
4. WR (it's a higher need, but I think we can only find a #2 at best)
5. DE
6. Good pass catching TE

By the way, DK, here's a pretty good Eagles website.
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Last Edit: 22-04-2008 17:17 By Gyuri.
 
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posted 22-04-2008 19:40

 
Michigan tackle Jake Long has signed a multiyear contract with the Miami Dolphins..

well that was uneventful... On to the Rams of Saint Louis- you are on the clock.
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posted 22-04-2008 20:03

 
I may be attending this years draft. My friend who lives in Hoboken and I are probably going just for the hell of it and to cheer when Dan Connor gets picked.
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posted 22-04-2008 20:08

 
I don't think that trade would be such a bad idea for the Redskins. The Patriots showed that a malcontent primadonna WR can become a very productive playmaker after he's traded. The Skins could certainly use a downfield threat like him and I don't think they're going to find anything better in this draft.

Their pick of Landry last season seemed stupid since it just meant that they had their best two players at safety when they really needed more help on the line. But now Sean Taylor has left this world, so I guess they're glad to have him.

But they've got to get some more help on the line. Rushing the passer is the key to the whole fucking sport, as far as I can tell.
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Last Edit: 22-04-2008 21:34 By Reed of the Valley People. Reason: I said Bengals in the first sentence. I meant Redskins.
 
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posted 22-04-2008 20:30

 
The issue with the trade, from my perspective, is that it isn't clear that Johnson is actually all that great. His numbers are good, but he has a great QB throwing to him. His talent isn't as clear as Moss's or TO's. Also, I think Moss worked (without melting down) partially b/c the Pats have a strong, disciplined internal culture, and, more importantly they went undefeated, so there was no opportunity to whine.

The Skins, on the other hand, aren't nearly as good and have a questionable internal culture with Zorn coming in over the players' wishes for Williams.
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posted 22-04-2008 21:30

 
I think he's probably better than Santana Moss which would make him the number one right away.

Also, while he's not as good as Randy Moss, unlike Randy Moss, I don't think Johnson has ever blatantly dogged it like Randy Moss or created a problem in the middle of the season like TO.

I grew up as a Bengals fan and still support them as much as I can from a distance, but I can't blame him for not wanting to play for them. It's a mess. Marvin Lewis has done a pretty good job, but the big mess has happened on his watch.

Right now, if I were Mike Brown - and thank God I'm not - I'd be willing to get rid of everyone who works in the entire organization except Palmer and Hooshmanzadah (I'm just spelling it like it sounds).
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posted 22-04-2008 21:49

 
Reed,

I think there's a good chance that you're right and he is better than Santana Moss, but I'm not sure that he's worth this year's first round pick and a potential first round pick next year (it's at least a 3rd, but could be a first if performance goals are reached). My best evidence for this is that I, as an Eagles' fan, would be thrilled if the Skins made that trade. Of course, that may just be evidence of my idiocy.
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posted 22-04-2008 21:58

 
No, not next year's first round pick too. That's too much. Don't give them anything from next year. The pick is likely to be high.

I'd give them this year's first round pick (he's probably as good as anybody they could get there) an autographed Gary Clark jersey and a lifetime pass to Six Flags (Dan Snyder owns that too).

But that would be my final offer. I'd open with just the Gary Clark jersey then work up to the other things if they don't take it.
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Last Edit: 22-04-2008 21:59 By Reed of the Valley People.
 
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posted 22-04-2008 22:09

 
I'd hold back the Six Flags pass, too. Given the Bengals recent criminal troubles, I wouldn't want them starting anything at the wave pool.
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posted 22-04-2008 22:10

 
I'm not talking about a pass for the whole team, just Mike Brown and his family.
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