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posted 24-04-2008 15:27

 
I believe they mean that the team that currently has the pick received the pick via trade from another team (the one in the parens).
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posted 24-04-2008 15:43

 
Ah right, thanks. Have the Colts relinquished completely any right to pick, then?

Edit: and also the Browns.
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posted 24-04-2008 15:53

 
They mean that the draft picks in question did not originally belong to the team listed, but were rather acquired in a trade from the team in parentheses.

The 49ers, for instance, were not very good last year, and therefore had a relatively high pick (No. 7), but traded it to the Patriots (who otherwise would not have had a first round pick).
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posted 24-04-2008 15:55

 
Only in that round, Hof.

The teams that traded picks will have them in subsequent rounds (unless they've traded those, too).
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posted 26-04-2008 21:14

 
Crap. Eagles traded out of the first round for second year in a row. Don't know what they got in return for their pick.
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posted 26-04-2008 21:20

 
Nevermind. The Eagles picked up 2nd and 4th round picks this year, and Carolina's 1st round picked next year. That's a good trade. I take back the profanities I've uttered in the past 5 minutes.
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posted 26-04-2008 22:10

 
God I would hate to be a Detroit fan when it comes to the draft. There has to be some outstanding skill to make everyone go "WTF?" year after year.
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posted 26-04-2008 22:12

 
This is a really crappy draft this year Gyuri, so it makes some sense. Much more filling needs than talent (the fact that Offensive Tackles are the big choice seems to show that).

Some very bizarre trades going on in the first round - very active. I like the 8min rule for the first round as well.
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posted 26-04-2008 22:16

 
dglh,

I agree. My initial concern (before I saw what the Eagles received) was that they were trading out of the first round for salary cap reasons, which is always frustrating, though understandable. The fact that they got a 1 and a 2 out of it, makes it a very good trade, and increases the likelihood that they can make a trade with Detroit or Arizona for Roy Williams or Anquan Boldin.
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posted 26-04-2008 22:23

 
Some of the trades offered to get out of the 1st round have been excellent deals when you think how little there is to take. A 2nd & 4th round with next years 1st round as well is a no-brainer to my mind. Gives you a lot of capital to trade back up if you need too as well.

I have been following this, my first draft, on ESPN with a Dallas fan and a Colts fan guiding my knowledge. There seems to be a few young men who are decidedly richer today than anyone would ever have expected (a lot of forecast R2 picks going top 20)
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posted 26-04-2008 22:28

 
The Dallas fan must be happy, they've had a superior draft so far. Damn Cowboys. Feel free to mock him about their failure to win a playoff game in 11 years, but kindly tell him to stuff it if he points out that the Eagles have never won the Super Bowl.

This draft had a relatively weak first round, and so, despite many mock drafts having people going in the second round rather than the first, there was never that much difference in the assessment of their talent.
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posted 27-04-2008 00:01

 
5 hours into the draft, the Eagles make their first selection, and 5 minutes later they make their second.

I can't for the life of me figure out why they took a defensive tackle with that first pick. Their two starting DTs were first round picks two and three years ago. Other than QB, it was their least area of need.

With the second pick, they took DeSean Jackson, the WR from Cal. He's tiny, but fast, and should solve the Eagles' kick/punt return problems. Also, maybe he'll make UA an Eagles fan.

Dynamo Kev, what do you think about this?
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posted 27-04-2008 00:59

 
Two of their biggest needs were Safety and OT.. When they traded with Carolina- an OT was drafted, when they traded with Min- a Safety was drafted.. hmmmm.. It'll be easy to figure out if the trades panned out for them..

The DT is strange- though they like to play 4 or 5 a game- ..

I still can't believe Lito hasn't been traded yet.. HOW ABOUT THIS JV- Lito for Shockey..
It won't happen for a number of reasons- but if they didn't franchise LJ Smith- maybe..
We hate him now- but if he was on our team, they would build statues in his honor..
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posted 27-04-2008 01:13

 
I'd still hate that guy, even if he played for the Eagles. . .I mean, he played for the Hurricanes and the Giants. If it was just one I could deal with it, but the combo is a stain that can't be removed.

Granted, he's less objectionable than Michael "History's Greatest Monster" Irvin who was part of the hilariously infamous Hurricanes team that choked to Penn State in the Fiesta Bowl, and then was an Eagle killer for the Cowboys.
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posted 27-04-2008 02:02

 
I don't know what to say. I've been off-rhythm for this whole thread. I didn't even get a chance to make any "look at the bright side, at least you don't have the last pick" jibes and jokes.

I personally like Boss better than the Shockster. Boss was absolutely integral during the run, coming up with such well-timed catches with a knack unseen since Simms-to-Bavaro; yet people seem to think anyone who says Boss is better than Shockey is an idiot. I mean, a guy who makes your quarterback better, who runs the routes he's supposed to, and shuts the f up and plays the game is worse ? I mean shit, you won one Superbowl against an unbeatable team without the guy, go out and win another one.

But they got the safety they wanted, and no need for any Iggle-Jint nonsense. (I'll also say, in case I haven't mentioned it during the past few years, that I taught at New Brunswick HS with LJ Smith's uncle. I had to take over his math classes for 3 days for the Pats-Iggles SuperBowl. He was one of the coaches for the Dwayne Jarrett/Andre Dixon years - Dixon being star running back for UCONN.)

The original trade talk was Shockey to the Saints. He would've done well in Nawlins, especially with Brees and the Big Eaz. But the Saints weren't getting rid of any safeties.

I'd say the best pick of the draft is McFadden to the Raiders. If Russell didn't bomb his whole career by missing that first training camp, their offense can be terrifying. McFadden is awesome.

I'm happy to see Ray Rice o' Rutgers becoming Ray Rice o' the Ravens. That's a better situation for him than Brian Leonard going to the Rams.

Finally, it's amazing how many teams are looking for kick returners. Call it the Hester-effect.
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posted 27-04-2008 03:08